Tuesday, July 16, 2013

CGI's Liberty_Lady: Abolish The Fed? So Much Hot Air

CGI's Liberty_Lady: Abolish The Fed? So Much Hot Air
Posted By: Susoni [Send E-Mail]
Date: Tuesday, 16-Jul-2013 12:43:14
 
Every so often I read about some politician loudly promoting kicking the Federal Reserve out of the country. While I totally agree with that, let's take a calmer look at that scenario. It is a sham when politicians talk about abolishing the Fed. Why would politicians kill the goose that lays the golden egg? The correct answer is, they wouldn't.
Be highly suspicious when you hear a politician calling for the 'end of the Fed'. Question them closely. How would they accomplish this? What would they replace it with? Although there are many things I admire about Ron Paul, I think he's either being disingenuous or he needs further education on the incestuous relationship between Congress and the Federal Reserve System. The reason for that remark is simple. The Fed gave Congress a blank checkbook right after their inception. Do you really think any politician is going to walk away from that? In his book, "The Creature from Jekyll Island", G.Edward Griffin explains:
"We examined the three methods by which the Federal Reserve is able to create or extinguish money. Of the three, the purchase and sale of debt-related securities in the open market is the one that provides the greatest effect on the money supply. The purchase of securities by the Fed (with checks that have no real money to back them)creates money; the sale of those securities extinguishes money. Although the Fed is authorized to buy and sell almost any kind of security that exists in the world, it is obligated to show preference for bonds and notes of the federal government. That is the way the monetary scientists (bankers) discharge the commitment to create money for their partners, the political scientists (Congress). Without that service, the partnership would dissolve and Congress would abolish the Fed. "
With it, no politician is going to seriously call for the Fed's demise. Let me explain that further. It's easy for one or two politicians to appear to be against the Fed when they know they are blowing smoke because they will NEVER have the votes to accomplish this. They know it. But they get to look like the good guys to those of us who are waking up and demanding some real reform. To be completely fair, maybe they do believe the Fed should be abolished. But if they've been in Congress more than one term, they know how the system operates. So, yes, I call that disingenuous.
Part of the problem is lack of knowledge of high finance by members of Congress. Just because someone has a degree in law or medicine does not confer superior economic knowledge.If the likes of William Jennings Bryon could be fooled by the monied elite, nearly every politician can be. You should never try to play a shell game with the same people who invented the game.
Some politicians were suspicious of the Federal Reserve System because they knew some of the history of central banking in this country. But their fears were allayed with sharp double talk, open ended laws that allowed the tinkering with the system now 186 times! Or they were bought off. Each politician knows what category he or she belongs in.
From what little I've studied, it appears that every time central banking was allowed a foothold in this country, it was a disaster for at least the average citizen and the independent banks. The elite bankers had plenty of time to get the laws in place that would allow them to rape and pillage this country. They had plenty of money to grease the skids as well. A handful of greedy elite in charge of a central bank, controls whatever country is stupid enough to let them get their toe in the door. And all they have to do to ensure their longevity there is to hand politicians a blank checkbook. Never mind that it's just fiat money. The politicians will borrow for every conceivable need until every citizen in the country is in bondage to these carrion fowl. And the politicians who do see central banks like the Federal Reserve for what they are? Well, this is what G. Edward Griffin had to say about the Congress of 1920.
"By 1920, suspicion and resentment were growing in the halls of Congress. Politicians were not getting their share. It is possible that many of them failed to realize that, as partners in the scheme, they were entitled to a share. Nevertheless, they were dazzled by banker language and accounting tricks and were afraid to tinker with the System lest they accidentally push the wrong button. Watching with amusement from London way Fabian Socialist John Maynard Keynes, speaking of the Federal Reserve's manipulation of the value of the dollar, he wrote: 'That is the way by which a rich country is able to combine new wisdom with old prejudice. It can enjoy the latest scientific improvements devised in the economic laboratory of Harvard, whilst leaving Congress to believe that no rash departure will be permitted...But there is in all such fiction a certain instability...The suspicions of Congress may be aroused. One cannot be quite certain that some Senator might not read and understand this book.'
"There wasn't much danger of that! By then, American politicians had acquired a taste foe the heady wine of war funding and stopped asking questions. WWI had created enormous demands for money and the Fed had provided it. By the end of the war, Congress hostility to the Federal Reserve became history." "The Creature from Jekyll Island."

And also by that time Congress had realized it could get money without raising taxes. Perpetual debt was insured. So, what happened to American gold that at one time backed at least some of the paper currency? Mostly it was funneled to England. And that move was deliberate. Remember England was still suffering from economic woes too, worse that America was. They had gone heavily into debt during WWI. How could they pump up their economy without putting their citizens into poverty or heavy taxation? (same thing)Why here come the central bankers to the rescue. At the same time as the central bankers were propping up the English economy with American gold, that same system was in a fractional reserve banking orgy in America. Interest rates sere set artificially low. People were encouraged to borrow like there was no tomorrow.Money was cheap. Things of little value usually are. And we all know about fiat dollars now. As long as no one went to the bank for all of their money, things were rolling along pretty well until 1929.
Remember, borrowing is what creates fractional banking since the banks only have to keep 10% on reserve in the bank and can then lend out the other 80% with interest, of course. Not a bad scam if you're a banker. Unfortunately, people like my grandfather lost two farms during this period and nearly lost the one his family lived on. In 1928 the Fed purposely closed the 'candy store' credit to cause a bust. Then they raised interest rates.
War is what oils the machinery of central banking and we have had nearly perpetual was at least in the previous century. This is the Military/Industrial Complex that Ike warned us about as he was leaving office. These are the secret societies that JFK warned us about in 1963.
So, will these elite win? They have most of the gold by now. But there are still things the average person can do to stop feeding the monster. GET AND STAY OUT OF DEBT! Remember, debt is what feeds the creature. When you aren't in debt, you aren't as much at their mercy. That would be a blow to the bankers. And, can you imagine what would happen if everyone stopped their payroll deductions , saved that money at home, and paid their taxes on April 15th? That would be a blow to the politicians. It's something to think about.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=282503


Texas Judge Found Dead in his Courthouse Chambers

Texas Judge Found Dead in his Courthouse Chambers
Posted By: Jordon [Send E-Mail]
Date: Tuesday, 16-Jul-2013 11:19:41
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CORPUS CHRISTI — State District Judge Tom Greenwell was found dead from a gunshot wound Monday night in his chambers, Nueces County Sheriff Jim Kaelin confirmed.
Corpus Christi police, medics and Nueces County Sheriff’s Office deputies responded about 7 p.m. to the courthouse after a report that a man was found with a gunshot wound to the head.
The courthouse closed at 5 p.m. It was not clear whether the gun passed through the security checkpoint, which includes a metal detector. Attorneys, judges, and some media representatives who have courthouse identification badges typically aren’t required to pass through the security checkpoint.
Judges who have concealed handgun licenses are allowed to bring firearms with them to the courthouse.
Corpus Christi police said the Nueces County Sheriff’s Office would be the lead investigating agency, given it is a county building. Police were relied upon heavily for security and forensics. A police crime scene investigation van and officers were at the courthouse until nearly 10 p.m.
When the call first came in, the response seemed to follow protocol for an active shooter.
But within 30 minutes police left and county workers calmly walked to their cars, saying they had not been ordered to leave the premises and security personnel guarding the building seemed calm when talking to news reporters.
As he oversaw the investigation, Kaelin was not available to answer questions after confirming Greenwell’s identity. It was unknown if a weapon was found, if a note was left or whether foul play was suspected.

More here: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/judge-tom-greenwell-found-dead-at-nueces-county-courthouse-sheriff-jim-kaelin-confirmed

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
Posted By: Watchman
Date: Monday, 15-Jul-2013 09:41:28
 
For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government's mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. So what just happened?
Until this month, a vast ocean of U.S. programming produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors such as Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks could only be viewed or listened to at broadcast quality in foreign countries. The programming varies in tone and quality, but its breadth is vast: It's viewed in more than 100 countries in 61 languages. The topics covered include human rights abuses in Iran; self-immolation in Tibet; human trafficking across Asia; and on-the-ground reporting in Egypt and Iraq.
The restriction of these broadcasts was due to the Smith-Mundt Act, a long standing piece of legislation that has been amended numerous times over the years, perhaps most consequentially by Arkansas Senator J. William Fulbright. In the 70s, Fulbright was no friend of VOA and Radio Free Europe, and moved to restrict them from domestic distribution, saying they "should be given the opportunity to take their rightful place in the graveyard of Cold War relics." Fulbright's amendment to Smith-Mundt was bolstered in 1985 by Nebraska Senator Edward Zorinsky who argued that such "propaganda" should be kept out of America as to distinguish the U.S. "from the Soviet Union where domestic propaganda is a principal government activity."
Zorinsky and Fulbright sold their amendments on sensible rhetoric: American taxpayers shouldn't be funding propaganda for American audiences. So did Congress just tear down the American public's last defense against domestic propaganda?
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/


Homeland secretary resignation widens leadership gap; no permanent heads in 1 of 3 senior jobs

2013-07-16


Homeland secretary resignation widens leadership gap; no permanent heads in 1 of 3 senior jobs



Vatic Note: To be honest, she simply rubber stamps whatever ADL and SPLC put in front of her and because she is useless,  I think they sent her underground early to help set up below, since its almost here. But I have no evidence to that fact, so I put it up as pure speculation.  However,  It Figures this is called news by the MSM.  I found it funny just how far off the MSM is to reality.  Almost everyone now knows that She never ran Homeland Security, its been run by the SPLC and the ADL, which is Mossads spy arm in the United states.   Its operating effectively through the citizens committee that both SPLC and ADL sit on.

There is a gap in leadership because neither of those two groups want an American in charge to conflict with their foreign occupying governments agenda and interests.  I think she resigned because she could tell who was going to get blamed for what the SPLC and the ADL were doing.   Treason is the order of the day.  I bet those two groups were getting ready to either arrest Americans who are dissidents, or assassinate them under the EO Obama signed, or were going to set up something deceptive that would bring hell down on her head.

Smart move on her part.  If there is one dept that is completely controlled by Israel, its Homeland security.  That is who has done  all these false flags that have gone on without most Americans knowing anything about it until too late.  Even on their website, they put up the schedule of drills going on by homeland security that just so happened to coincidentally match actual terrorist events while they were doing the drilll and they never stopped to interfere with the terrorist who were killing Americans.  Why?  because they were the terrorists.  That is one of our Orwellean examples on our blog.

Now why does Israel want illegal immigration?  Several reasons, one is greed.  They do not want to pay for shipping goods made in slave labor countries.  They need a slave labor work force right here.  The only way to do that is to have competition for jobs be intense, and that requires a large population of slaves to compete for an otherwise,  decent living wage job.   Its also why those bankers bought the privatized prison system so they can use the inmates as slave workers.

Another reason is to race mix.  They hate all races but their own, so to do that then dilutes the culture of these Christian countries, and makes it easier to inculcate the culture they want us to have, such as satanism, full of soul destroying recreational activities like heavy drinking, recreational sex, gay sex, so  that would reduce the population, and finally pedophilia. Its a direct attack on the "family".  Remember eventually they want total control of the children in every aspect so they can make them into the kind of adults they need to continue their agenda.  Notice the noise being made to make child sodomy legal???  Or at the very least decriminalize it?

OH, yes, there is no way, that the SPLC OR ADL want an American in a leadership position in that dept.  They would lose control that they have right now.   Just a reminder, this is the SS of Nazi Germany to "protect ze homeland" and we already know now the major role these zionists had in Fascist Germany in WW II..  No different today.  

Homeland secretary resignation widens leadership gap; no permanent heads in 1 of 3 senior jobs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homeland-secretary-resignation-widens-leadership-gap-no-permanent-heads-in-1-of-3-senior-jobs/2013/07/13/2137c8fe-eb9c-11e2-818e-aa29e855f3ab_story.html
by  Susan Walsh, Washington Post,
By Associated Press, Updated: Saturday, July 13,

                                                   
Acting officials are always reluctant to make long-term policy calls, said James Ziglar, the last commissioner of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which was absorbed into the Homeland Security Department in 2003.
“On the administration side, management side, everyone is looking at the person, saying, ‘You aren’t going to be around very long, so we’re going to just hold off doing stuff,’” Ziglar said.



Customs and Border Protection, which oversees the securing of the nation’s borders, has not had a Senate-confirmed leader since the George W. Bush administration. President Barack Obama in 2010 exercised his ability to bypass Congress and appoint Alan Bersin as head of CBP. But that appointment was up at the end of 2011. The acting commissioner who replaced Bersin recently retired from government, only to be replaced by another acting commissioner.
Without a Senate-confirmed commissioner of CBP, it will be difficult to put in place and actual border strategy, said Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum.

The Democratic-controlled Senate has passed an ambitious and broad immigration bill, which includes doubling the size of the Border Patrol to more than 40,000 agents, offering a path to citizenship for immigrants in the country illegally and increasing the number of people who come to the United States as temporary workers. House Republicans have vowed to fight the bill, arguing that the border isn’t secure and that must come first.

“Whoever is in the position is always looking over their shoulder, wondering if they are going to have a job,” Noorani said.

The position of the department’s chief privacy officer is also filled by an acting official at a time when evaluating and protecting privacy will be critical for any new immigration laws likely to include deciding who among the millions of immigrants living the country illegally gets to stay.

The department’s second most senior position has been without a confirmed leader since Jane Holl Lute left in April. Rand Beers, who has been the acting deputy secretary, is poised to take over the department while the Senate considers Alejandro Mayorkas to fill the second top job permanently.

But Mayorkas’ confirmation would also create another vacancy, this time at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. That agency is responsible for policing who gets immigration benefits, including green cards, and is likely to have a significant role in implementing any immigration reform that addresses the millions of immigrants already living in the United States illegally.

And not having a permanent inspector general to serve as the department’s watchdog is a significant problem, said Skinner, who once served in an acting capacity in that role.

“The longer that position stays vacant, the more vulnerable the department becomes,” he said.

Career government employees need leaders who have the backing of the president, said Prakash Khatri, the former ombudsman at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

“When they know there’s an acting head of the office, generally the careerist will not make any major moves,” Khatri said. “At a time when we have major reform pending, that is the last thing we want.”
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http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2013/07/homeland-secretary-resignation-widens.html

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It wasn't just 'Skittles' Trayvon was carrying

Subject: It wasn't just 'Skittles' Trayvon was carrying


There is a detailed FOIA & investigative report that is very very long on this case (the article is below this excerpt and it goes all the way to Holder and Obama and a local law firm that I had no idea was so politically dirty<Morgan and Morgan>).  The extent of the corruption involved in this case is unbelievable.  FOIA & investigations led to this smoking gun:
“We are not asking that he [Zimmerman] be convicted; We are asking that he be arrested”
-Benjamin Crump Esq.
Attorney for Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fuller
(Quoted to Piers Morgan on 4/3/2012)
And there you have it, the ulterior motive, the hidden agenda:

MONEY !


The Trayvon family is not seeking justice in the form you would think. No, they are seeking monetary justice, or more directly monetary gain. THAT is the motivation; and the absence of an “arrest” is what stands between them and their ability to sue in civil court”.
Ask yourself why would anyone want an arrest without a conviction?
“We are not asking that he be convicted; We are asking that he be arrested”
Why is that so important?
The answer can be found in the statutes of Florida law surrounding Justifiable Use Of Force (Statute 776) which outlines in Statute 776.032

Alaska Goes Tenther: Governor Signs HB 69 to Nullify NDAA Indefinite Detention,Federal Gun Laws, and REAL ID Act

Alaska Goes Tenther: Governor Signs HB 69 to Nullify NDAA Indefinite Detention,Federal Gun Laws, and REAL ID Act

by ASERAG.
“The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States  guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal  government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of  Alaska certain powers as they were intended at the time that Alaska was admitted to  statehood in 1959; the guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Alaska and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed to and adopted by Alaska and the United States in 1959….” -SECTION 1 (2B)
Following the hard work of Alaskans, the legislature, and Americans around the country, and with one swift signature from Alaskan Governor Sean Parnell, HB 69 has:
  1. Made Alaska the second state to successfully complete the nullification of the national defense authorization act’s sections 1021 and 1022
  2. Declared tyrannical federal gun laws infringing upon the 2nd amendment enumerated Rights unenforceable and unconstitutional, including barring any state resources or participation
  3. Stopped and forbidden any participation or implementation of the REAL ID Act / National ID program  
“The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph” -Thomas Paine 
The signed legislation, Alaska HB 69, which is now officially law, is summarized:
“Prohibiting state and municipal agencies from using assets to implement or aid in the implementation of the requirements of certain federal statutes, regulations, rules, and orders  that are applied to infringe on a person’s right to bear arms or right to due process or that  implement or aid in the implementation of the federal REAL ID Act of 2005; exempting  certain firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition in this state from federal regulation;  declaring certain federal statutes, regulations, rules, and orders unconstitutional under the  Constitution of the United States and unenforceable in this state; requiring the attorney  general to file any legal action to prevent implementation of a federal statute, regulation, rule, or order that violates the rights of a resident of the state; and providing for an effective date.”
 The new Alaskan law forbids the use of any state resources or employees to enforce NDAA’s sections 1021 and 1022, which Unconstitutionally authorized the executive power to arrest and imprison Americans indefinitely and without due process, and authorized the executive branch to utilize the military to arrest Americans in violation of the Section 1, Article 9, enumerated Right to a writ of Habeas Corpous, among at-least 5 enumerated Rights within the Bill of Rights. The text you should surely note is that NDAA section 1022 does not say Americans must be arrested by the military, but instead says that they are not required to be arrested by the military.
NDAA Section 1021:
“Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force . . . includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons . . . pending disposition under the law of war.”
NDAA Section 1022:
“…The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”
No worries here folks, the federal government isn’t required to violate your Rights in the process of violating your Rights, so everything is fine, because government would never utilize more power for its pursuit of tyranny if it isn’t explicitly required to do so…excluding the last 200+ years…
And since the feds never planned on using these sections, or so they’ve claimed, Alaska has actually helped make the American system of law-or whatever it has become now-more efficient, by blockading the federal enforcement of these sections.
As Jefferson claimed within the Kentucky Resolution, States  ”have the right, and are in duty bound, to interpose, for arresting the progress of the evil, and for maintaining, within their respective limits, the authorities, rights and liberties, appertaining to them.”
In that same spirit, Alaska HB 69 declares Alaska’s agreement with the federal government subject to its agreement with Alaskan residents and oath to protect the 2nd amendment enumerated Right to bear arms:
“A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is possessed in this state or manufactured commercially or privately in this state and that remains in the state is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of the United States Congress to regulate interstate commerce as those items have not traveled in interstate commerce.” -Section 3(a)
 In relation to gun law, HB 69 effectively:
  • forbids any state participation in federal laws violating the 2nd amendment
  • clarifies that any assumed powers by the federal government in relation to intrastate commerce does not include the regulation, registration, or confiscation of Alaskan firearms, ammunition, and related parts and accessories
  • lists the direct violations of the 2nd, 9th, and 10th amendments by the federal gun prohibition agenda
  • Compels the Alaskan Attorney General to take necessary legal action to prevent implementation of Unconstitutional federal statutes and laws
And finally, with great timing, as Congress pretends to debate passing a massive spending bill somewhat related to immigration but more related to funding a police state and the accompanying agencies and regulations, Alaska’s HB 69 nullifies the REAL ID Act of 2005, which as the Tenth Amendment Center graciously pointed out, is technically the law of the land, but due to resistance, has not been enforced:
“A state or municipal agency may not use or authorize the use of an asset to implement or aid in the implementation
of a requirement of An order of the President of the United States, a federal regulation, or a law enacted by the United States Congress that is applied to deny a person a right to due process, or a protection of due process, that would otherwise be available to the person under the Constitution  of the State of Alaska or the Constitution of the United States; or REAL ID Act of 2005″
Legislation striking down three groups of tyrannical federal laws may be common in house or senate bills that don’t make it past the committees or one majority leader, but what Alaska just did was convince their governor to literally stop and forbid any state resources funding these programs, make a legal and public statement on the recognition of Constitutionally-enumerated Rights, and employ state resources such as the Attorney General to instead be used to defend Alaskans and their Rights, instead of assist the feds in attacking them, all the while accomplishing a large step in a “first-investors” situation that will only motivate more and more states to pass similar legislation, now that Virginia and Alaska are the first-invested.
Congratulations Alaskans!
The courageous Alaskan State Representatives and Senators who sponsored the HB 69 legislation can be thanked through the legislature’s website and are as follows:
  • REPRESENTATIVE(S): Chenault, Millett, Johnson, T.Wilson, Hawker, Olson, Feige, P.Wilson, Thompson, Keller, Gattis, Lynn, Saddler, Higgins, LeDoux, Foster, Hughes, Stoltze, Reinbold, Tuck, Neuman, Isaacson 
  • SENATOR(S): Giessel, Meyer, Micciche
You can contact and thank Governor Parnell HERE
Find out how the Tenth Amendment Center can help your state accomplish what Virginia and Alaska have. 
Ahmed Serag



US GOVERNMENT HAS GONE INSANE UPDATE 1

Dr. William Mount
US GOVERNMENT HAS GONE INSANE UPDATE 1
Mon Jul 15, 2013 14:44
174.239.228.230

The current Obama regime has gone totally insane.

It was 56 Days ago (17 May 2013) the Debt Clock stopped for the US Treasury Department at $16,699,396,000,000.

No one knows what the US Treasury Department is spending.

We know that prior to 17 May the Treasury Department was spending $2.5 Billion Dollars per day more than it brought in - times 56 days - we think that the US debt has risen by about $115 Billion - but no one knows.

There has not been a US Budget since President Obama took office.

The US is now forced to pay China several Trillion Dollars for the bonds issued to the Chines Government - See Benjamin Fulford's Bog - or they plan to take Obama out legally - not in as assassination attempt. That on 17 Aug is planned by Faction 2 (CIA/FBI Loyal to the Pope in Rome).

(((As a side note - the new Jesuit Scum Roman Pope has already set up a new Roman Church HQ underground in Argentina. That us why this Gay Pope was selected - he is from Argentina.)))

Who buys the debt?

States all across the nation are being forced to trade Stocks and Bonds for US Treasury Bills - Debt Notes issued by the Feds. This way when the Feds unwind the states will as well. Kind of a: WE WILL ALL GO TOGETHER WHEN WE GO."

In addition - the US Treasury buys Federal Reserve Debt, and the Federal Reserve buys US Treasury Debts.

This week we plan to publish the accounts of some of our Major Politicians who have been given $60 Trillion Dollars - and this is only two of the Politicians. There is no telling ho many others have been given Trillions of Dollars.

How can you run a legitimate US Corporation if you do not even know what you are spending?

How can you run a legitimate US Corporation if you allow it's politicians to receive dollars equal to 4 times your entire Gross Domestic Product?

Time will tell what happens either way we stated this would occur in the following articles back in December and not one person even stood up and said: STOP:

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=143126

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=143137;

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=143139;

Here is the article about the Debt clock stopping:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/treasury-debt-has-been-exactly-1669939600000000-56-days
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In addition - President Obama has just stated he will TAKE a third term.

His folks around him are abandoning ship as fast as they can run.

The US Supreme Court just ruled that you cannot sue Drug Companies. These justices should be arrested yet NO ONE in a leadership position will arrest this "Obama".

Give me ONE MAN who is a Secret Service Agent or US Marshal and I will go - but they are not men, they are wimps who mass on Old Men and Children - COWARDS of the worst kind.

There are only 2 options here:

1) Nuclear War

2) Vatican Plan: Economic Collapse, turn off the lights permanently, and kill as many Americans as you can - just like Hanz Kovlenback (Chief Jesuit General) stated in his interview 4/15/00 and thus will lead to Full Scale Nuclear War.

This Obama Regime has gone completely Insane.
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If one would come and ask GOD has the solution. Otherwise - here it comes folks.
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Pleas pray that his Regime is legally overturned immediately

You heard it first here on APFN.
Dr William B. Mount


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Only after you have set up your legal and financial structure, are you ready to cash-in the bulk of your IQD (or VND).
You may need to schedule cash-in appointments. Allow for 1 week.

So the time from RV to cash-in could be as little as 1 month or as much as 4 months. To make sure you are not worrying
about living expenses and other financial issues, you need a plan that is comfortably longer than 4 months. That is why this
Cash-In Plan is for 6 months.    (End of Part 1 of 4)

CASH-IN PLAN  -  STEP 1  (Part 2 of 4)

STEP 1: YOUR TRANSITION - Organize funds to cover 6 months of expenses and activities.

In Step 1, you set up a TRANSITION BUDGET.
This will cover (a) Expenses for 6 Months including the cost of your Advisors, (b) Debt Repayment ,
and (c) Rewards.

WHY DO THIS:

A TRANSITION BUDGET buys time for you to calm down, adjust and THINK CLEARLY again.
It also:

- buys time to get past any bait rates
- buys time to let professionals help you pay off debts, cash-in and secure your new wealth
- helps you avoid spending wildly and wasting your wealth (due to sheer excitement!)
- trains you to start thinking like the wealthy person you now are; the wealthy all have a plan
that outlines what % they will spend on different living expenses, luxuries and types of investments

WHAT TO DO:
Exchange the minimum amount of IQD needed to cover all the costs in Step 1. This may be one 10K
or one 25K IQD note, or more. Make sure you have enough to pay for all of the following:

Note: You may also be able to arrange a line of credit using your IQD as collateral. If so, you may not have
to cash-in any IQD to cover your transition, but the rest of your Cash-In Plan will still be the same.

a) Expenses for 6 months:


Basic monthly living costs:

- home costs: monthly rent/mortgage, utilities, phone, security, other
- loan payments: monthly auto or other loans
- personal care costs: food, meds, clothing, health care, dental, other
- annual: property tax; insurance on property, vehicle, health, other
- R&R: basic entertainment, recreation, travel/vacations, gifts
- Other: any regular costs not already noted
- Contingency: add 15% of the above - this is for emergencies


One-time costs:

- 6 months insurance for your IQD (and VND) if you do not already have it
- repairs, maintenance or minor upgrades to home, auto, security, other
- special personal costs e.g. health care you have been waiting for
- $10K to $25K to set up your entire legal and financial structure  (including
travel costs)

b) Debt Repayment:

Debts you can pay right away:
- small current debts with NO PENALTY if paid off (e.g. credit cards)

- overdue bills and mortgage payments

Debts you DO NOT INCLUDE: (see your Advisors first)

- large current debts that HAVE A PENALTY if paid off e.g. mortgage

- large overdue debts - e.g. foreclosure, outstanding taxes *

*Note: see your Advisors about this first; there are specialists who can help you minimize
your costs, as well as settle any other associated legal or financial issues

c) Rewards:


Set aside a SMALL budget for treats and toys that are a HIGH priority; this will help you avoid
wasting your wealth on impulse items that you later do not use; examples of treats and toys
include:
- Vacations  take your time planning each vacation and make sure you get maximum value; it is easy to
travel because you can afford it, but you also want to make sure you enjoy the trip and get top value.
(It is also prudent to secure your wealth first.)

- Clothes “ buy better quality or fill in gaps in your wardrobe, and know what you need. Avoid shopping
sprees. It is easy to get carried away here; you cannot return it or sell it for much value. Once it is spent,
 it is gone . . . and part of your new wealth is gone forever.

- Toys “ pick up a few dream electronics, home, hobby or other items you have always wanted, mainly small
 ticket items; these toys will help you stay disciplined about your budget while you set up your Advisors and
prepare for cash-in. Take several months to do this; buy one, enjoy it fully, calm down, then buy the next
one (LOL).

- Vehicles “ if you can, get by with the present vehicle until cash-in. Your Advisors may recommend that your
trust or corporation/LLC own the vehicle. If necessary, repair the present vehicle, rent a vehicle, or buy a low
end vehicle that you can later upgrade.

- Real Estate “ it is best to select your Advisors BEFORE you buy a new property. This is the kind of item that
they may suggest your trust or corporation/LLC own. Take 6 months to compare properties while you wait.
Travel and experience new locations.

d) Calculate your TRANSITION BUDGET:


Expenses (a) + Debt Repayment (b) + Rewards (c) = TRANSITION BUDGET

e) Simple Tips to help you stay On Budget for 6 months:


If you are disciplined about managing your money, you may not need to do this. If you tend to lose track of your
funds, then this may help you stay within your budget:

- open several bank accounts

- put the funds for (a) and (b) into one account

- put the funds for (c) into another

- set up a third account for putting aside tax money and tithing money as you cash-in

(End of Part 2 of 4)

CASH-IN PLAN  -  STEP 2  (Part 3 of 4)

STEP 2: YOUR WEALTH - Estimate your wealth BEFORE you select your Advisors


To keep it simple, Step 2 only considers the wealth you gain from cash-in of your IQD (and VND).
It does not include any current wealth you may have, such as a home or savings, since this is likely
to be a minor percentage of your new wealth.

In Step 2, you calculate approximately what YOUR WEALTH will be after you cash-in your entire IQD
investment and subtract all payouts. You will base this on the RV rate, and update the amount if the
rate goes up. You need this information to help you select the right Advisors.

WHY DO THIS:

Knowing YOUR WEALTH is essential to securing and growing YOUR WEALTH. It will help you:

- select Advisors that have clients similar to yourself in wealth and lifestyle

- reset your priorities, now that wealth has given you new options

- remind yourself that luxuries REDUCE YOUR WEALTH, so think before you spend

- spend only on priorities and maximize YOUR WEALTH

WHAT TO DO:

YOUR PROFIT is the money you will make from cash-in of your total investment, less ALL payouts.
To calculate YOUR PROFIT, do the following:

a) Calculate your Proceeds from cash-in:

Calculate the money you will receive from cash-in.

Use the cash-in rate at RV (you can update this if it goes up).

b) Calculate your Payouts:

These include:

- taxes on the proceeds (use the highest % for now)

- tithing or causes

c) Calculate YOUR PROFIT:

Proceeds (a) Payouts (b) = YOUR PROFIT (c)

YOUR WEALTH is what you will have left after you spend part of YOUR PROFIT on expenses,
 large debts and big purchases (excluding a new property). To calculate YOUR WEALTH, include
the following:

d) Your Transition Budget:

Use the amount from Step 1 (d)

e) Large Debts NOT included in the Transition Budget:

These include large items you excluded in Step 1 (b):

- current debts that HAVE A PENALTY if paid off – e.g. mortgage

- overdue amounts - e.g. foreclosure, outstanding taxes

f) Luxuries and Big-Ticket Items NOT included in the Transition Budget:

These include:

- high end vehicle or boat

- luxury goods

- big vacations

- other

g) Calculate YOUR WEALTH:

YOUR PROFIT (c) - Transition Budget (d) - Large Debts (e) - Luxuries (f) = YOUR  WEALTH


(End of Part 3 of 4)

CASH-IN PLAN  -  STEP 3  (Part 4 of 4)

STEP 3: YOUR ADVISORS - Select Advisors who specialize in your level of wealth and CLICK with you!

In Step 3, you select YOUR ADVISORS and work with them to develop your Cash-In Plan. Following this,
you will proceed with the bulk of your cash-in. You need to know all of the information in Steps 1 and 2
in order to select the right Advisors.

WHY DO THIS:

Not all Advisors are equally qualified to help you. You need Advisors who are well versed in assisting clients
with needs and considerations that are similar to your own. This is because:

- they are deeply familiar with the laws and rules that will most affect you

- they have perfected their theories on many clients (you will not be a guinea pig)

- they know how to work with laws and rules to maximize the PROFIT from your cash-in

- they know how to help you minimize taxes and manage your wealth year after year, so that you can achieve
and maintain the life that you want

WHAT TO DO:

a) Interview your Advisors:

You have set aside $10K to $25K to set up your entire legal and financial structure

- DO NOT tell the Advisors you interview that this is your budget

- Always come across as a well-heeled penny pincher


- DO NOT tell the Advisors you interview all your details

- Give them a high-level overview with ball park figures

- Make sure you interview at least 3 candidates for each Advisory role

- Look for Advisors who understand what YOU want (and do not push their views)

- DO NOT sign any documents that charge you for a FREE consultation

- DO NOT sign or pay for any documents or analyses you did not ask for

- DO NOT accept any offers that appear to be generous "free" analyses

- If you retain this Advisor, you may be charged later for the service

- Once you have agreed on the specific services, you will likely need to sign a contract or form agreeing
to these services. Read all the fine print, and make sure you understand absolutely everything that is
described. Do not hesitate to ask for clarification. Your Advisors will respect you and give you better
service.

b) Select your Advisors

Make sure your team can work with each other; they should not be flying solo.

At the very least, your attorney and accountant MUST work as a team.


- Ask the attorney if he/she can recommend a good tax accountant; the attorney will often already have
accountants they prefer to work with; make sure it is because the accountant understands the legal work
(what the attorney needs)

- Do the same with the tax accountant; ask him/her about a good attorney

- This will help you create a team that will work together to help you

c) Give all the information in Steps 1 and 2 to your selected Advisors

Have them set up your legal and financial structure, and your Cash-In Plan (e.g. the accountant may want you to
delay cash-in if it changes your tax %). The Cash-In Plan should include:

- where to cash in

- how much to cash-in at a time

- when to do it

- where to deposit it - into which part of your structure (trust, corporation/LLC)

- other advice

Make sure both your attorney and accountant agree with your Cash-In Plan.


d) YOU ARE NOW READY TO CASH-IN

e) Other Tips

Read and refer to other new and future postings from The GET Team on how to select and interview attorneys,
accountants, financial strategists, wealth managers and other Advisors  (End of Part 4 of 4),

:

Use your masterful powers of thought,
visualization and verbal intent to
Co-create a peaceful world

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HAARP facility shuts down and will be dismantled HAARP facility shuts down and will be dismantled AlaskaDARPAKirtland Air Force BaseNew Mexico Please don't forget to: July 16, 2013 - The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) — a subject of fascination for many hams and the target of conspiracy theorists and anti-government activists — has closed down. HAARP’s program manager, Dr James Keeney at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, told ARRL that the sprawling 35-acre ionospheric research facility in remote Gakona, Alaska, has been shuttered since early May. “Currently the site is abandoned,” he said. “It comes down to money. We don’t have any.” Keeney said no one is on site, access roads are blocked, buildings are chained and the power turned off. HAARP’s website through the University of Alaska no longer is available; Keeney said the program can’t afford to pay for the service. “Everything is in secure mode,” he said, adding that it will stay that way at least for another 4 to 6 weeks. In the meantime a new prime contractor will be coming on board to run the government owned-contractor operated (GOCO) facility. HAARP put the world on notice two years ago that it would be shutting down and did not submit a budget request for FY 15, Keeney said, “but no one paid any attention.” Now, he says, they’re complaining. “People came unglued,” Keeney said, noting that he’s already had inquiries from Congress. Universities that depended upon HAARP research grants also are upset, he said. The only bright spot on HAARP’s horizon right now is that the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is expected on site as a client to finish up some research this fall and winter. DARPA has nearly $8.8 million in its FY 14 budget plan to research “physical aspects of natural phenomena such as magnetospheric sub-storms, fire, lightning and geo-physical phenomena.” The proximate cause of HAARP’s early May shutdown was less fiscal than environmental, Keeney said. As he explained it, the diesel generators on site no longer pass Clean Air Act muster. Repairing them to meet EPA standards will run $800,000. Beyond that, he said, it costs $300,000 a month just to keep the facility open and $500,000 to run it at full capacity for 10 days. Jointly funded by the US Air Force Research Laboratory and the US Naval Research Laboratory, HAARP is an ionospheric research facility. Its best-known apparatus is its 3.6 MW HF (approximately 3 to 10 MHz) ionospheric research instrument (IRI), feeding an extensive system of 180 gain antennas and used to “excite” sections of the ionosphere. Other onsite equipment is used to evaluate the effects. Larry Ledlow, N1TX, of Fairbanks, Alaska, said HAARP ionosonde and riometer data have been “invaluable, especially being more or less local, to understand current conditions in the high latitudes.” He said data from other sites “simply do not accurately reflect the unique propagation we endure here.” To fill the gap, Ledlow said, several members of the Arctic Amateur Radio Club — including Eric Nichols, KL7AJ, author of Radio Science for the Radio Amateur and articles in QST — have discussed building their own instruments. “It’s all very preliminary,” he said, “but we really feel the pinch losing HAARP.” Nichols, of North Pole, Alaska, has conducted experiments at HAARP. He called the shutdown “a great loss to interior Alaska hams and many others.” The ultra-high power facility long has intrigued hams, even outside of Alaska. In 1997, HAARP transmitted test signals on HF (3.4 MHz and 6.99 MHz) and solicited reports from hams and short-wave listeners in the “Lower 48” to determine how well the HAARP transmissions could be heard to the south. In 2007 HAARP succeeded in bouncing a 40 meter signal off the moon. Earlier this year, HAARP scientists successfully produced a sustained high-density plasma cloud in Earth’s upper atmosphere. As things stand, the Air Force has possession for now, but if no other agency steps forward to take over HAARP, the unique facility will be dismantled, Keeney said. He pointed out that it would cost less to bulldoze the antenna field than it would to replace the 180 antennas. Splashy web postings abound, blaming HAARP for controlling the weather — most recently in the case of Hurricane Sandy and the spate of tornados — and for causing other natural disasters. Quipped Keeney, “If I actually could affect the weather, I’d keep it open.” Sources and more information: • HAARP Facility Shuts Down The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) - a subject of fascination for many hams and the target of conspiracy theorists and anti-government activists - has closed down. HAARP's program manager, Dr James Keeney at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, told ARRL that the sprawling 35-acre ionospheric research facility in... • B/S ALERT HAARP Shuts Down WOW REALLY ! Home HAARP POWER B S ALERT HAARP Shuts Down WOW REALLY ! B S ALERT HAARP Shuts Down WOW REALLY ! DARPA allocates funds for the use of HAARP vol3ch15 Executive Summary In 2025, US aerospace forces can "own the weather" by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications. • HAARP facility shuts down • Navy Admits Making Ionospheric Plasma Clouds Using HAARP Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/HAARP_facility_shuts_down_and_will_be_dismantled/91109#ixzz2ZDsDTiEN

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Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Tuesday, 16-Jul-2013 03:58:00

Hi, Folks -
Found at dinarguru.com:
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7-15-2013 Intel Guru TerryK ALL SOURCES ARE TELLING ME TODAY...ALL DOCUMENTS SHOW IT TO BE THE DAY...ITS PENDING RIGHT NOW...WHAT I WAS TOLD FROM SOURCE...IT WILL COME OUT HIGH NONE OF THE 1 DOLLAR STUFF
7-16-2013 Intel Guru Frank26 [via BulldogFord65] The ISX was open today [Monday], it opens for about 4 days per week, and only about 4 hours per day.The ISX linked up with NASDAQ for 2 hours today [Monday], so they kept their promise to go global today! The ISX has gone fully electronic, but this also sets them up to trade internationally; means things are moving forward.
7-16-2013 Intel Guru Jester [is the third person that you referred to last night in position now?NO HE IS NOT...SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW [TUESDAY]. THE ANSWER IS THAT IT HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW... AND ANOTHER HINT... IT IS TOMORROW IN CHINA... HMMMM [with all three individuals in place will there duties be accomplishable in minutes, hours or days?SHOULD NOT TAKE LONG...HOURS AT MOST IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED... [reference Jester post 7-15-2013] [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
7-16-2013 Intel Guru Jester [Then this week is still possible?IT IS POSSIBLE OF COURSE... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... THEY ARE WORKING ON IT... I AM AWARE THAT CHINA IS HOLDING THE BUTTON...THEY ARE A PERSNICKETY BUNCH... I'S DOTTED... T'S CROSSED... THAT SORT OF THING... THEY ARE INSISTING THAT IT ALL GETS DONE RIGHT. [post 2 of 2]
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Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 15-Jul-2013 19:26:17

Hi, Folks -
Found at www.dinarguru.com :
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7-15-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man HERE IS THE FACT'S AS I KNOW THEM NOW, AS OF 3PM C.S.T.--I WAS REALLY SURPRISED I WASN'T GIVEN THE AUTHORIZATION TO MAKE THE FINAL POST LAST NIGHT OR DURING THE NIGHT PREDICATED ON THE ANTICIPATION OF THE IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE GOING LIVE WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED AN INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY OF VALUE. I LEARNED LATE LAST NIGHT...THAT IRAQ HAD REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL DAY TO FULLY INITIATE THEIR I.S.X. (IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE). IRAQ WAS GIVEN 24 HOURS PERIOD.... [post 1 of 4....stay tuned]
7-15-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man THERE ALSO WAS A PROBLEM THAT --HAS-OR WAS-OR IS BEING CORRECTED RELATIVE TO THE PINGING OF CENTRAL BANKS THAT ALL HAD TO RESPOND CORRECTLY TO THE PING (ALL BEING ON THE SAME PAGE). FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, EVIDENTLY THIS HAS NOW BEEN CORRECTED. IT ALSO APPEARS SOME OTHER EXCLUDED COUNTRIES LAST NIGHT WANTED TO JUMP ON THE GRAVY TRAIN AT THE LAST MOMENT---DIDN'T HAPPEN THOUGH. [post 2 of 4....stay tuned]
7-15-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man ALSO FURNISHED ME THAT ON IRAQ T.V. SCROLLING ON THE BOTTOM OF THEIR SCREEN WAS THE INFORMATION THAT IRAQ WAS NOW (NOW) NO LONGER TO BE CONSIDERED AS A 3RD WORLD NATION DUE TO THE VALUE OF THEIR CURRENCY. ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS CURRENT AND CORRECT AS I UNDERSTAND IT. [post 3 of 4....stay tuned]
7-15-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man TIME IS NO LONGER ON IRAQ'S SIDE AS THE WORLD AWAITS THE INITIATION OF THE PROCESS THAT ALL HINGES ON IRAQ REVALUING THEIR CURRENCY. IRAQ WILL BE THE HINGE PIN FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD''S CURRENCIES AND THE U.S.A. IS THE HOST COUNTRY THAT WILL INITIATE THIS EVENT. [post 4 of 4]
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What happened to johnnie yesterday?

I received several inquiries about my lack of activity yesterday, the 15th of July.

Well I was having a Happy Day as it was my 66th birthday. Turned my computers off and put my phone on silence mode. It was nice!!!

Almost tempted to get a Happy Meal at McDonalds but me thinks me too old for that! LOL!

I am back on the saddle today and going forward again.

GOD Bless All

John MacHaffie   HIS humble servant

Dinar RV Intel - 7-15-13

7-15-2013  Intel Guru TerryK   ALL SOURCES ARE TELLING ME TODAY...ALL DOCUMENTS SHOW IT TO BE THE DAY...ITS PENDING RIGHT NOW...WHAT I WAS TOLD FROM SOURCE...IT WILL COME OUT HIGH NONE OF THE 1 DOLLAR STUFF

7-15-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Eagle1   [via BulldogFord65]   Maliki made a speech on CNN International, and said ISX to go global on July 15 and currency to go global on July 15; today we saw the ISX join NASDAQ for 2 hours today and Eagle1 has a source saying that the UN Operational Rates were linked with ForEx and that it will show tonight; Maliki’s speech info came from CNN foreign news station...it was seen by several trusted sources, and forex/UN operational rates info came from a trusted source.


7-16-2013  Intel Guru Jester    [is the third person that you referred to last night in position now?]   NO HE IS NOT...SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW [TUESDAY]. THE ANSWER IS THAT IT HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW... AND ANOTHER HINT... IT IS TOMORROW IN CHINA... HMMMM  [with all three individuals in place will there duties be accomplishable in minutes, hours or days?SHOULD NOT TAKE LONG...HOURS AT MOST IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED...  [reference Jester post 7-15-2013]   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

7-16-2013  Intel Guru Jester   [Then this week is still possible?]   IT IS POSSIBLE OF COURSE... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... THEY ARE WORKING ON IT... I AM AWARE THAT CHINA IS HOLDING THE BUTTON...THEY ARE A PERSNICKETY BUNCH... I'S DOTTED... T'S CROSSED... THAT SORT OF THING... THEY ARE INSISTING THAT IT ALL GETS DONE RIGHT.  [post 2 of 2]