Wednesday, October 16, 2013

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GOOD MORNING TNT

TECH DIFFICULTIES

PAM IS ALWAYS THE PROBLEM LOL

SEE PAM'S NAME ON THE PH I SAY UH OH, HERE WE GO

LOL

  

GOOD MORNING TNT

I THINK ITS A SUPER FANTASTIC DAY ALREADY

THAT'S THE DAY I'M EXPECTING

I HAVE A SINUS PROB. THIS MORN.

THE GARBLE IS THE PH SYSTEM

WILL TAKE AS MANY CALLS AS I CAN

IT WILL BE A LITTLE DIFF

LOOKED AT THE BOARDS

IF YOU ASK ONE QUESTION

WE CAN GET MORE PPL THRU

AND MOVE IT ALONG

OCTOBER 16TH, 10AM, PST

HERE WE GO

GUYS I KNOW YOU HAD A LONG DAY YESTERDAY

THINK I WAS TRYING TO DO YOU A FAVOR

AND GIVE YOU A PEACEFUL DAY

BELIEVE ME

YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE DAY I HAVE WHEN I DON'T DO A CALL

OR AFTER A CALL

THE CALLS FROM THE DIFF. PLACES

AND IT CHANGES FROM HOUR TO HOUR

DON'T WANT YOU TO GO THRU THAT

DAILY - THINK YOU CAN HANDLE IT

FEW MORE CIGARS COUPLE MORE DRINKS

ITS CRAZY

AND THIS IS WHY ITS SO QUIET THIS MORN

BECAUSE EVERYTHING FOR THE RV TO GO THRU

IS COMPLETE

EXCEPT FOR THE ACTIVATION

SO NOT A LOT OF NEWS LEFT FOR THE RV IS CONCERNED

NOT THING TO DO W/ IRAQ

TOLD YOU FOR WEEKS AND DAYS

TOLD YOU IN APRIL ALL THE DECISIONS WERE MADE AND AGREED UPON

STOPPED HEARING ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS

OTHERS TOLD YOU WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE THIS TO HAPPEN

BUT ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AT ONE TIME

AGREED UPON

OVER HERE

THEY TRIED TO DO IT BEFORE THE DEBT. CEILING/GOV SHUTDOWN

COULD HAVE

BUT DIDN'T

SO NOW ITS PART OF THE ISSUE

WE REALIZE THAT BY NOW

SO TO FOLLOW WHATS HAPPENING

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO AT THIS POINT IS TO WATCH TV

OR TO KNOW BEHIND THE SCENES

BUT....

I COULD TELL YOU IF YOU DO WANT TO KNOW

BUT HALF THE TIME I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW MYSELF

DIDN'T WANT IT TO GET INTO THE POLITICS IT GOT INTO

REALLY SCARY STUFF

IN THAT WE CAME THIS CLOSE AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN AFTER

THE DEAL IS DONE

AND DONE LAST NIGHT

SENATE PUT IT ON THE FLOOR

HOUSE WAS GOING TO PASS IT

AND 3PM THE PRES. HAS IT ON HIS DESK

4PM MEET W/ THE IMF AND THE UST

AND FROM THAT POINT

CLEAR SAILING

AND WE'LL SEE IT WHEN WE SEE IT

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE

WHATS TODAY

THE DRAMA ENDED TILL JAN.

BUT YOU'LL HAVE MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCT.

AND WONT' CARE

SO WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT NOW

IS HOW IT CAME TO BE

WE DON'T WANT TO GET POLITICAL THOUGH

DEF. CHANGES IN THE GOV. FROM WHAT HAPPENED

AND CHANGES IN PARTIES FROM THE LAST 2 WEEKS

AND I'M SURE YOU'LL BE PART OF THAT, MOVE MONEY AROUND AS MULTI MILLIONAIRES

WE ARE STILL THE MINORITY AND WON'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE GOV. ON OUR OWN

  

THE RV #S ARE STILL HIGH NUMBERS

THE ONLY ? IS THE 30 DAYS

I THINK WE'LL STILL GET THE 30 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE TRANSACTION

BUT DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET THE HIGH NUMBERS FOR 30 DAYS

SHOULD HAVE 800 NUMBERS TO DO THE APPT.S HASN'T CHANGED

THE ONE NOTE HASN'T CHANGED

IF YOU'RE APPT. IS A FEW WEEKS AGO

CASH ONE NOTE AT SEVERAL BANKS

AS OF THIS MORN. THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO NEGOTIATE FROM THIS POINT 

THE BANKS DIDN'T GO IN 

MON. AND TUES THEY WERE ON CALL

NOT STANDBY

THIS MORN. THEY WERE ON CALL

AND THEN ON STANDBY

AND AS OF NOW, THEY DO HAVE A TIME TO BE IN

CASH OUT, CALL CENTER AND SECURITY, WERE ALL NOTIFIED TO BE IN TODAY

IF IT ALL GOES ACCORDING TO SCHEDULE

IT COULD CHANGE

BUT IF IT STAYS, WE ARE CLEAR TO GO

CLEAR SAILING

OK....

LET ME CLEAR THIS REAL QUICK, UPDATED MESSAGES, MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING EXCITING, NO DOUBT IT

I'LL BE HONEST, NOT TILL WAY LATER THIS EVENING

I'LL TELL YOU THAT

AND TAKE TODAY

BUT WHAT I'D DO RIGHT NOW, KNOW WHERE MY $$$ IS , AND MY DOCUMENTS, TRUSTS, FOUNDATIONS, ETC..

WHICH BANK TO USE

AND KNOW THAT I'VE GIVEN OUT THE LETTERS TO PPL THAT I'VE GIVEN DINAR TOO

SO IN CASE THERE IS A TAX

AND MY PLAN OF ATTACK

AFTER WE CALL YOU AND TELL YOU THAT ITS LIVE

AND PUT THE NUMBERS OUT THERE

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT

I GUESS WE CAN PUT THE BASE NUMBERS UP

UNTIL I SIGN THE NDA

BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BASE NUMBERS

AND WE CAN GO TO THE BANKS ONLINE SYSTEM

PAM AND RAY, FIND OUT, WHO IS 3 WAY IN RIGHT NOW, WITH THAT NOISE

DISCONNECT THEM

ITS BOTHERING ME, THE NOISE....

( TECH ISSUES, BOARD FROZEN )

IT IRRITATES ME

BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS

I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT

PAM AND RAY FORGOT TO REMIND ME

RAY- DON'T FORGET THE 100$

LOL

WE GOT THE 100 DOLLAR BILL, VERY COLORFUL AND LOOKS GOOD

AND IT SAYS

FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE

DOESN'T SAY TREASURY NOTE

AND BRINGING IT UP FOR   A REASON

PPL KEEP POSTING ABOUT THE REPUBLIC AND THE TAKEOVER OF THE GOV. AND THE IRS IS GONE AWAY AND DON'T PAY TAX BILLS,  ETC..

THE GOV. SHUT DOWN EVERY OTHER OFFICE....

NOT ON THE NEWS, THAT THE US IS NO LONGER COLLECTING TAXES

YOU GET PPL IN TROUBLE LISTENING TO THIS MESS

A YEAR AGO

HEARING ABOUT TREASURY NOTES

AND I TOLD YOU, ITS STILL A FED. RES NOTE

NOT THE PHYSICAL MONEY

AND PPL TRY TO CONVINCE YOU THAT IT DID

IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ANYONE AND NEVER DID

OUR GOV. DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY

AND WAKE UP ONE MORNING .....

AND NOT TELL THE REST OF THE WORLD OR COUNTRY THAT THEIR MONEY IS NO GOOD

AND MAKE YOU ALL FEARFUL

ALL NONSENSE THEN AND ALL NONSENSE NOW

LETS GO ON

HAVE A HARD TIME EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT - SO RIDICULOUS

SOME ACTUAL BELIEVED IT

BE CAREFUL

YOU'LL RUN INTO LOTS OF SITUATIONS LIKE THAT

AND GO THRU IT IN YOUR MIND

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE??????

NO!!!!!

LET ME DO QUESTIONS REAL QUICK

  

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THE IMF INVOLVEMENT AND EARLY EXCHANGES BY THE SELECT FEW

Does Tony feel that those that would rather not see us with the higher rate are using the political process to run out the clock so the IMF would have to step in, thus insuring the lower rate?

UM, I DON'T THINK ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT THE RV ITSELF, THIS IS POLITICAL, LONG ONE, THERE ARE SOME PPL THAT ARE TRYING TO CHANGE OUR GOV. AND NO THEY AREN'T ARRESTING EVERYONE IN ONE DAY, NO, NONE OF THAT NONSENSE, THEY'LL VOTE THEM IN AND OUT, AND DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME THAT FORCED A CHANGE, ITS NOT HOW THEY DO THINGS HERE, WE DON'T CRASH AND BURN SO WE CAN REBUILD IT, IF THERE WAS A WAY WITHOUT AFFECTING THE WORLD, WE PROLLY WOULD DO IT, START W/ MONETARY SYSTEM, DID SOME HAVE A FEAR OF THAT, YES,  IT GOES WITH --- FOR 10 YEARS OR 3 YEARS - WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL COUNTRY WE'VE EVER SEEN, AND IT INVOLVED MALIKI, ALLAWI AND BARZANI - NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE,  WE CAN REPLACE THAT NOW WITH OBAMA, BOEHNER AND REED,  SO OUR COUNTRY IS JUST THE SAME, - DRAGGING THE WHOLE COUNTRY DOWN, AND LOOK AT THAT - AND COMPARE OUR GOV. TO OTHERS AND WE'RE NO DIFFERENT,  SAME THING WE COMPLAINED ABOUT, AND IT WAS ABOUT THEIR BUDGET, SAME THING.... SO FOR THOSE THAT THINK WE ARE SUPERIOR TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, WE ARE THE SAME,  DYSFUNCTIONAL ATTITUDES,  AND YES THERE WERE PPL THAT DIDN'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN FOR SELFISH REASONS, AND DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO FORCE A CHANGE, LIKE I TELL MY KIDS OR FRIENDS, AND ASK MY OPINION, AND TELL THEM, THEN AT THE 3RD TIME, I TELL THEM GO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND SEE SOME PAIN,  AND TH ATS WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO IT --- ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE, GOING ON IN THE BACK ROOM, PPL FEELING PAIN, AND NORMALLY IT STARTS HURTING AND THEN THE ADULTS COME IN AND SAY NOW YOU WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY, AND STRAIGHTEN UP.

THEY STARTED FEELING PAIN IN OUR SITUATION AND PPL CAME FROM OUTSIDE OUR COUNTRY, LIKE WE DID W/ IRAQ AND THEY SAID WE NEED TO SEE THIS AND THIS DONE AND DO IT IN A HURRY, AFFECTING MORE ....

THE DECISION IS MADE

RIGHT ON TIME

SENATE DID THE PART ALREADY

CRUZ SAID HE WON'T BLOCK THE VOTE

HOUSE WILL PASS IT THIS EVE

AND ALL WILL BE OVER

AND ENJOY THE HOLIDAYS AND START BACK ON JAN 15TH

THEY FELT SOME PAIN AND IT MIGHT PLAY OUT DIFF. ON THE 2ND ROUND

  

CURRENCY EXCHANGE AND BANK-RELATED QUESTIONS

I know we will not be able to negotiate the rates, however can we negotiate the bank spread and fees?

T- PRETTY SURE YOU CAN STILL SAY THAT

  

During the initial exchange of a single 25k note, realizing this is a fluent situation, will there be enough time to open a new account, request cashier checks, request ccc document and proof of funds? 

T- NO.  YOU JUST CASH IN ONE NOTE.  IF THEY HAVE TIME TO WRITE YOU A CASHIERS CHECK THEY WILL - BUT NOT PART OF YOUR CASH IN PROCEDURE.

  

Tony do you think it is a good idea to copy in Black and White our Dinar Notes and have the bank sign off when we exchange?

T- ANYTHING THAT MAKES YOU FEEL SECURE.  BANK WILL GIVE YOU A RECEIPT.

WILL TELL YOU THIS, NO I WON'T, YES I WILL, ITS JUST ME, I WOULDN'T DO BIZ. WITH - HOPEFULLY THE PTB ARE LISTENING, WHERE I HAVE TO SEND MY DINAR OFF TO GET CREDIT, OR TELL ME THE RATE,  THERE ARE TOO MANY BANKS THAT ARE DOING IMMEDIATE  - THAT'S HOW I WILL DO IT

  

Rate on Dong and will it be taxed the same?   PROLLY WON'T KNOW TILL FEB. 15 - BE PREPARED

  

  

MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS

If the chat room is opened post RV would it not be advantageous to not allow chat about at least the IQN since we do not know if all people signed NDA's?  If dealers do not have clients sign NDA's we can’t chat with folks who have signed NDA's at the banks!

T- NOW THAT'S A THOUGHT

I DON'T KNOW HOW ITS GOING TO WORK - DON'T KNOW - IF YOU ARE A MEMBER - MAYBE WE HAVE TO OUR MEMBERSHIP FORUM OVER AND HAVE YOU SIGN AN NDA - TO BE PART OF THE CHAT, HATE TO - BUT TO PROTECT ALL OF US.  WE'LL GET ADVICE.

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live Q & A

c- planned announcement of the 800#s - before the 17th or behind, were they sliding it 

t- it was planned for yesterday at 8:30 am and it didn't happen

  

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c- John in DC - talked about the potential of certain VIPs exchanging and double dipping, wouldn't it make sense for the PTB, during the NDA process, prohibiting from a double dip, 

t- could have and some have cashed out and double dipped, don't know the quantity, and we can't control - and like I was on stage, and they asked me how much money I made - doesn't matter - no one can spend it but my wife...

c- could it screw up the game

t- no not that large, not let anyone become that super rich from an inside deal

t- there is another question along that line, if they cashed out at 25, 27 and had to give the $ back, which was in the agreement, how would we know if they gave it back, we'll still only get what we get, things beyond our control, with position comes power and we have to live with it

c- give it to you  for all the hard work you do

t- lol

t- don't worry about things beyond my control, always going to be deals, I'll get all I can get and lead the best life I can do... can't worry about that they are doing over there, can't control it

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c- did CL step in to finish this, 

t- ppl  - a gov. above the gov. and the ptb, that are always concerned about

t- in the last 48 hours they got involved and additional meetings, and didn't see that on CNN, but got resolved, ie. feel some pain and then do what we need you to do

c- Bankers don't want it to happen

t- the PTB don't want this and that, but if you look and google, Fed. Res. they own 153 CBI's of 180 countries, they own 153 of them, and you know the 7 families that own them, who is stronger than they are?  who has more influence then they do?

c- no one

t- so if they owned the money for years, and they owned it when we were on the gold standard, off the gold standard and back on, what have they lost, they still own it, they can still influence the outcome and they did 2 days ago, if they don't want it - it won't be

c- ....something stopping it

c- you can't say

t- I did just say

( Tony is explaining the diff. between gold and fiat standard - and Basel 3 )

c- some of us will borrow, bottom line

t- it doesn't, it increased all their values, and their countries wealth, why would they not want to happen

c- full moon in Aries

......

  

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c- every man and woman in dinar land wants to see a picture of Already Blessed

t- she told me I'll be in a world of trouble if I put it out there

c- senate version, what makes you think they are not going to do that again today?

t- you should think the same thing, and 2 days ago Boehner told the world that we are not going beyond the debt ceiling and if he had to do a clear vote, so regardless, it wasn't going to happen

t- others, the Dem's or Pres. O, said if it happens its on you, and they go to the polls and the R's have the lowest rating since the '30s, .....and not letting it happen, told you it was theatre, in the end this is going to happen - he said he wouldn't take the blame and everyone knows that, so... 

t- I don't like everything in Obama Care or the Univ. Health Plan, but the fact of the matter is, that its playing out, Senate went thru, House is going to vote, Cruse said he's not standing in the way, and its done and over

t- they are going to pass it and this eve. the Pres. is going to sign in and then a green light to do what we need to do, to take it public will it be hours or days...

  

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c- cbi rate and bankers rate, which rate will the dealers use?

t- said they would do the MARKET RATE, DON'T KNOW AND HOPE IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BANKS, but can't answer till it actually happens, if its diff. Frank will be in line with us at the bank, smart business man

  

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c- in case the House screws up, will the IMF step in and lower the rate

t- if the House screws up there is a plan in place for this to happen at a later date, lets hope it doesn't happen, they know what the plan is, I go back to ok, you don't do it and will feel pain, but everyone feels good now

c- is that later date, this year or next year

t- not telling you

c- ok

  

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c- if IMF stepped in,  assuming it doesn't go thru and they activate it, are we really to believe the early payouts would be reimbursed and who would monitor that - were they given cash or... cert. of dep.

c- can't buy the fact that they'd give it back

t- what choice do you have

t- if I'm the bank and dep. $250M in your bank why can't I just freeze your acct. and subtract it from your acct.

c- didn't hear that part

t- money is sitting there, we're not talking about a person that found a bag of money,  we're talking about the elite of our country,  no one taking off w/ others money, at that level, its not like the guy next door, if they didn't put it back, lawsuits

t- the better question is, if these guys got the $ wouldn't they fight to make the RV go thru so they can keep this money

c- how many cashed out?

t- its who they are, more imp. than the percentage, and not in the habit of giving back $200 M dollars

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c-super fantastic

t- super fantastic

c- when is your birthday

t- March 28th

c- we share the same comment

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c- how all these ppl going to talk themselves out of the RV, confidence?

t- me, Pam, Montana, RayRen, 

t- we know there are lot of misunderstanding, get lots of info, and get it all, and gives me extra confidence and know that you all don't have all of that

t- trying to give you as much as we can.... the movie w/ Jack Nicholson, but that's the truth, the reality is you don't want to know the truth, just being honest with you now, and things that had to be done, to live the life that you need to live,  you wouldn't handle the truth and say no we didn't do that,  but even the new IMF chief, ppl didn't believe -- but see things in the news, and then it fades away, it was needed at the moment....

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c- cbi didn't update, shows the 14th, and I own just over $5M dinar, and someone asked about going to a bank, do I have to go to 3 or 4 banks, do I tell them how much I have all together

t- how much you plan on putting in that bank, it will designate where they send you, depending on the amt. that you have

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c- how are you

t- super fantastic

c- negotiate the spreed, with one bill

t- you'll just cash out, not negotiating anything w/ 1 bill

c- got friends and a warden, keep saying its a scam, and what I tell them, is how can the richest country in the whole world not allow to be on the market and traded and have their own currency, am I correct?

t- as soon as its international,  even if it took till Friday, which I doubt, they can tell me whatever they want, but the proof will be there and they will have missed a great opp. in life, don't be concerned with defending yourself - i just tell them and they say NO WAY and I say, you're prolly right,  not going to get tied up  when I'm trying to help them

c- warden on my back, so I'll let her know

t- that's one you have to live with....lol

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c- heard you mention 5/3rd bank are they participating in this

t- yep

c- competitive as far as well

t- yep, they were in the game the whole time, absolutely all in

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c- did the admin get what they wanted, so we don't have to worry in 6 weeks

t- if they got what they wanted, it wouldn't go again in 6 weeks, but...

c- so we can be waiting another 6 weeks

t- oh no, we're getting our RV, after he signs it off, its clear sailing,  they got enough to put things back to normal and enough time to process the RV , 30 days, markets change, and stabilize and see what to do on Jan. 15th

  

  

JUST THINKING THAT IF CNN HIRED MY GUYS THEY'D HAVE BREAKING NEWS... THAT'S TOO FUNNY, WE HAD ALL THIS BEFORE TV....LOL

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c- after the RV how long till we make a deposit in the Bank of Tony

t- oh no

t- none of that

t- if you are thinking about it, its easy to buy a bank, but not easy to make a profit with a bank, one guy went to a bank and told him he wanted to put $20M in the bank,,and they said they can't handle it,  unless they have a plan to increase the dividends....

t-you can buy banks, from $3M to a billion, and now you own it, and what do you do now?

t- don't just buy a bank, but have a plan on what to do

c- I wanted to put a deposit into your bank

t- oh no

c- we'll talk in Vegas

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c- going over my notes and they had the 800#s at 8 in the morn. eastern

t- wait

t- you said the 800's were on, did you know that before I told you

t- did some tell you that before

c- no

c- my blood pressure went up, that was exciting

c- can you tell us what time that they were told to report to the centers late this eve.

t- I could tell you the exact time they were told

c- its your party

t- after 2 eastern

c- thanks

c- one note, or 2 twenty fives

t- they were briefed on a 25K note, maybe its the max

c- thank you - you the Man!!!

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c- my ? about the 25K note, at that rate, its about $600K, how is that possible 

t- you'll have $600 something deposited into your acct. and take $10K cash and walk out the bank

t- last Thurs. or Friday, banks were told to order more money, and it comes in on Tues. Wed. and should have enough to walk out the bank, if $10K was my priority, then ask before you walk in, sometimes they will give you $5K or $2K, and order the rest

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c- read Creature of Jekyll Island, but boiled down, and tell me, the Rothschild's or not, don't care if we have the money or not, but its about their power -

t- just power

c- especially the lady that called in, they can do whatever they want, fiat or gold money, they have so much power

t- and they have so much influence, and when they exert it... do your games... nothing happens by chance,  countries involved - someone always influencing the outcome

c- the affordable health care, powerful too, Kennedy said if you can control the medical you control the masses, and Jefferson said not to have a Fed. Res. - control our money

t- going to go to the other side of the river for a min.

t- give you something to think about along the way, Iraq/Germany/so many countries all their ppl have free health care, from birth to death, and free education, from Kindergarten to PHD and we think we are the richest country in the world and can't figure out how to provide that to our own ppl, but all the countries we give money to -have it, I question our medical industry and we buy pills and they can't afford the meds. but go to Canada and its the exact same pill and does the same thing and its $2,3,  but there is too much money involved and greed and paying ppl to do the wrong thing and not the right thing,  the PTB and etc...

there has to be a way to do that, and how its affecting ppl's lives...

c- is there an address that wouldn't interfere w/ my personal life

t- that wouldn't interfere...

c- wanted to donate, don't have credit cards and live conservatively and....wanted to have an address to send it to you....

t- Pam's been wanting to get one for a long time, a lot of ppl wanted to do that, I'll have Pam call you - in case its a bomb, let it go to her

c- the guy that wants to buy you Rolls Royce's - wear Simmons shorts, I'll buy the Rolls so you don't have to wear them, they're short

t- lol

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c- as blessed as I can be and not have wings

t- ok then

c- you said something that registered strongly to me,  you sound like we might be in shape before the end of this week,

t- i can tell you right now, there is a def. plan to do this before the end of the week and a def. plan in place to make sure it happens before the end of the week

c- wearing the Oakland A's hat, want to go to Spring Training, can I bank on that

t- you calling from DC and talking about the A's - really?

c- they some bad boys, common

t- I feel confident about the RV, maybe not the A's

t- you can be where you want to be

c- need something to look forward to, today is Wed. tomorrow is Thurs.

c- you said Thurs. Friday I might be smoking a cigar and I can live with that....

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c- went to bofa and asked bank mgr. if they do currency exchange,  yes,  do you have a De La Rue,  what??? didn't know what it was... but could exchange my currency

t- every bank of every branch will not be an exchange center, but can do reg. currency, option to send it to the regional bank - send it out, get approval,  so your question is 

WHAT IS YOUR FOREIGN EXCHANGE PROCEDURE, DO YOU LOOK AT A BOOK?

c- they look at a book

t- some look at a book and some send it out, and then what is your cut off at this location or go to the next bank up, those are the Questions to ask

  

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c- won't forget March 28 now, and I'm the 23rd,  the 800's in the forum, sometime after the RV announced and an 800 number for each branch ( think he meant bank )

t- yes, minimum 5 numbers

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c- if I take my $ to my first appt. is it possible to keep the rate when I go get my reserves, or the end of it

t- don't know

t- typically, they tell you the rate when you walk in the door, if it takes 10-15 days to get reserves and now the rate has dropped, don't think you'll get it

c- that's what i was afraid of,  but to make the appt. far out enough and the rate can change

t- they can, and hope the exchanger is at the same rates, or get that note and as fast as you can, send it out...

c- or maybe i should just go and exchange them in that city

t- its an option, as long as he can make an appt.

c- how long do you think that rate will last

t- think they have a time frame set,  and we'll cash out, and hedge funds, and ppl buy in, leave it flat, prolly after they get most of us in, but the hedge funds will continue to buy and one it levels out - reach the ceiling and fall like a rock

c- approximate time

t- no

t- as i said so many times, I feel like I do know, but if i broadcast it, they'll change it, they can't have everyone sitting there and waiting for it

t-there are some traps out there, not to scare you, but know there are traps out there

c- been in this 10 years and can't wait for it to end

t- if I was in for 10 years, I'd be the first in line

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c- Ron from Houston - how are you

t- super fantastic

c- blessed and ready to take on Kingdom business,

c- on a scale of 1 - 10 ---10 being the only answer, how close are we

t- lol, 10 is the only answer

t- tell you what, its better to ask that after 4pm EST

c- blessings on all of you, and believe we're about to launch into the greatest time of our life and do all that God empowers us to do

t- ty

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c- saw an impromptu w/ Warren Buffet, and he said that the debt. ceiling wouldn't go beyond today and he said the USD will remain the world currency and in the Dinarian community, we've been under the impression the dinar or the yuan would replace it, so my question was that part of the hold up?

t- there is controversy going on in Warren Buffets empire

t- hired or fired and some aren't sure he's on top of his game, and ppl talking about it, he could be absolutely correct, doesn't mean there is not a plan to change it and ppl trying to change it,  on Sat. and Mon. the Chinese papers said now is the time to de Americanize, and in Lybia and whats going on in our Gov. and pushing for it, and not the only country talking about it, told you years ago, there is a 5 year plan and breaking it into 5 zones and that's de Americanizing right there, 5 IMF's, and that's the first part to weaken it,  just brought it to the forefront, China wants to be the World currency and Iraq could be, but they just have a strong dinar, and we are one of 2 that could become the World Currency and at one time the BP was... but in our lifetime or beyond, everything rotates and changes.... go back in history....

t- analogy, look at the Gov. and look at the ppl involved, the easiest thing in the world, take a crane and wrecking ball and let it smash everything in the way, but the hard part is what if you wanted to stop the wrecking ball, its hard to stop,  you purposely let it go to wreck it down the hill, but how hard is it to bring the ball back up the hill and that's what we are seeing,  and everyone is saying its not that bad -- really to drop a wrecking ball on the world economy....

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c- first time caller - Zimbabwe 6 zero's removed, before exchange or after

t- the zero's have to be removed to RV it, they can't do it with all those zero's, we'd all be richer than Donald Trump

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c- if the ptb already cashed in at 27.  will all the banks be at that same level to cash in, whether its a 25k note - will we be at the same rate

t- every bank is to be at the same rate, maybe off a couple pennies, but not dollars

c- so if its 27. and it rv's Thurs. or Friday, and other sources give me time lines like you and we go to WF - within pennies, but we'll all get that rate, 

t- all be able to get the rate, because that is the rate

t- not because of what they got

t- but that's the rate they are going to start with

t- within days or weeks, it will adjust and it could be 27. 87 this morn. and then 27.82 this afternoon,  depends on markets and trading, and can maintain it for the first 4, 5 days, but...

c- so it can last over 10 days over the $25 mark

t- absolutely

c- one more question

t- sure

c- you have verification of ppl that cashed in, and know and pretty secure that its going to RV this week or other indication that its not going to happen till past Friday

t- i said earlier they def. have a plan and do believe that it will happen between now and Friday

c- the ptb that cashed in are real

t- no I made it up, lol 

c- everyone talking about the NDA, so not shared to nobody and they're putting themselves on the line, and say they cashed out

t- maybe they are powerful enough to not care, maybe they said it was over $18 or not concerned with me getting on 60 min. and saying they did it

c- but coming out, and have to shut our mouths, why tell someone and its dinar, and I got X, and the ptb, and then it comes out

t- nothing to do about it and don't advise you to do it, been done it, and no proving it, do I believe it, yes, don't do the same thing, you don't have the power behind you that they do

c- but that should make you excited that it did happen

t- doesn't make me excited, not in my bank acct. but happened for years.. and in the last 12 days

next

c- wow

t- lol

c- don't put Pam's pic on the Internet, some perve going to look at her

c- ty for all you do, not about the RV, but about the info you give out about the gov. and the info you share and the headache you take for us,  and I'm the only girl that grew up with lots of boys, and get frustrated with the same question

c- how many times do I have to tell you 

t- lol

c- thank you so much

c- and all that you work with

c- now for the ?,  without not knowing about the gifting, didn't get one for my brother, but take the complete amt. that I have and go under my name and then gift him and let him pay his taxes

c- or will I wind up paying the taxes

t- you are going to cash it in and then give him the money?

c- that's what my thought was, well, with the gifting, is there X amt. and they don't have to pay the taxes, ie $5M

t- first if you cash out, you pay the tax, and then give him $$ he pays taxes,  if you didn't do a gift letter already, do it now, even though its not notarized, have a friend sign it, but if that didn't work, I'd give him a dinar note and say go to the bank and cash it, the banks don't want a receipt or a gifting letter

t- keep it simple

t- have a 3rd party sign it - get it witnessed - if not notarized

c- 1 more question

c- please

c- with the NIB acct. you're going to make money w/ interest bearing acct. not trying to be greedy, but want to make $,  still have to pay taxes

t- if you make interest you pay taxes

c- so whats the big deal,  about interest bearing acct. - just pay taxes

t- don't know what the tax is going to be, its about some saying its more secure and I'm not worried about the banks collapsing before the tax comes, my money will make money, that's just me, but if you think that a catastrophe will come, protect yourself

  

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GONNA HAVE A SUPER FANTASTIC DAY

EVERYTHING IS DONE

ALL THE TECH PART

THE PROCEDURES

PLANNING OUT

THE PHAMPLETS ARE 15 PAGES

CALL CENTERS HAVE THEIR PROCEDURES

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AND A PROCESS FOR THE 800S AND THEN WE'LL GET THEM 

THERE IS A PLAN

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BETWEEN THIS EVE

AND FRIDAY OR SAT.

72 HOURS

SO WE ARE IN THAT WINDOW

AND IN THE TIME FRAME

LOOK FOR 3 O'CLOCK

AND BEFORE 3 O'CLOCK

THE PRES. SHOULD HAVE IT BEFORE 

AND ANOTHER 4PM MEETING IN DC

AND AFTER THAT TIME FRAME

ANYTHING THAT CAN HAPPEN

WE'LL HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT

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IMF Proposal to Tax Bank Deposits

TO ALL THE POLITICIANS, OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IN THE CORPORATION:

It's past time for ALL OF YOU TO PAY YOUR OWN TAXES, THE PEOPLE HAVE NONE TO PAY AS THESE ARE NOT OUR BILLS, THEY BELONG TO YOU !!! YOU HAVE ILLEGALLY FOR MANY YEARS TAXED THE PEOPLE, STOLEN THEIR MONEY, LEFT THEM TO DIE FOR YOUR GREED AND YOUR EGOS !!! IT'S PAST TIME FOR YOU TO GIVE THE PEOPLE THEIR MONEY AND NOT YOUR COUNTERFEIT MONEY, BUT REAL MONEY, NO IOUS' ARE ACCEPTED ANYMORE AND TAKE YOUR IRS, AND YOUR FOREIGN AGENTS WITH YOU.IT'S CALLED HIGH TREASON AMONG OTHER CHARGES !!! NO MORE PEOPLE MURDERED, KIDNAPPED, GIVEN TO FEMA FOR THEIR CAMPS, NSA SPYING ON THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE  SHANANIGANS ARE OVER. YOU HAVE HARMED OUR MILITARY, DISGRACED YOURSELVES AND NOT THE PEOPLE !!!! TIME TO SHUT ALL OF YOU DOWN AND YOUR CORPORATIONS !!!!


IMF Proposal to Tax Bank Deposits
Posted By: SARTRE
Date: Wednesday, 16-Oct-2013 05:38:14

 
A report by Agence France-Presse, the International Monetary Fund strongly suggests countries tax the rich to fix deficit, is a caveat for a bigger risk. "The IMF has set off shockwaves this week in Washington by suggesting countries fight budget deficits by raising taxes. In its Fiscal Monitor report, subtitled "Taxing Times", the Fund advanced the idea of taxing the highest-income people and their assets to reinforce the legitimacy of spending cuts and fight against growing income inequalities."
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Troops to Stay in Afghanistan, but Demands for War Crime Immunity Denied

Troops to Stay in Afghanistan, but Demands for War Crime Immunity Denied

GENEVA, SWITZERLAND – SEPTEMBER 12: US Secretary of State John Kerry gestures as he listens to a translation of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov speaking next to him during a press conference at the Hotel Intercontinental on September 12, 2013 in Geneva, Switzerland. The leaders met to discuss chemical weapons in Syria in working towards assisting a U.N. Security Council resolution. (Photo by Harold Cunningham/Getty Images)
By JG Vibes | October 16, 2013 | 3:30am EST
WASHINGTON (INTELLIHUB) —  This week there have been a large number of stories in the news about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite the fact that the mainstream media has reported on multiple different occasions that those wars have come to an end.
This weekend US Secretary of State John Kerry was in Afghanistan to hold a formal discussion with the regions puppet dictator, President Hamid Karzai.  The main focus of the discussion was to come to an agreement about leaving 10,000 American troops in the country to fighting.
However, the discussion came to an abrubt end when John Kerry suggested that American troops should have immunity from war crimes.
It is beyond the scope of the Afghan president and his government to decide whether to grant US military personnel immunity, Karzai told Kerry, adding that this “issue of jurisdiction” would be referred to the country’s loya Jirga, an assembly of elders, leaders and other influential people.
“We need to say that if the issue of jurisdiction cannot be resolved, then unfortunately there cannot be a bilateral security agreement,” Kerry told reporters at a Kabul news conference, stressing, however, that an agreement was otherwise essentially in place. [1]
“I don’t believe these occupiers should be protected from prosecution for war crimes,” Suraia Sahar of Afghans United for Justice told Common Dreams. “Immunity is just another extension of occupation.”[2]
“This has been brewing for a while,” Kevin Martin, executive director of Peace Action, told Common Dreams. “This is what they were trying to do in Iraq, but the U.S. couldn’t get Iraq to agree. This is almost an exact replay.”
 ”These are not very good agreements,” Martincontinued. “The people of Okinawa are furious at rape and sexual assault by U.S. troops.”
“This is part of our country’s sickness and addiction to militarism,” he added. “There is no reason the people of Afghanistan should accept immunity.”
While the issue of immunity was denied, it was also decided that American troops will stay in Afghanistan after the date that they were originally supposed to come home.
Sources:
[1] Kerry fails to secure deal on US ‘troop immunity’ in Afghanistan -RT
[2] ‘Iraq Replay’: Kerry Demands Immunity for US Troops in Afghanistan – Common Dreams
http://intellihub.com/2013/10/16/john-kerry-demands-immunity-us-troops-afghanistan/

Why take care of people that hate us?

American Cash!!!

I have not read of a single dollar reduction in foreign aid as a result of
“sequestering.”  All items cut were for the express purpose of hurting the
American taxpayer/working people, the most!!!


Well?
DEMOCRATS and Republicans!!!

We read all the jokes and forward the good ones but I just wonder who will pass this one on.

How about you, sending it on, if you have enough 'chutzpah' to do so!!!

I do!!!

Someone please tell me what’s wrong with All the people that run this country!!!

Both Democrats and Republicans

Say, "We're broke,"

And can't help our own

Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless, Etc.???

But, over the last several years, THEY
Have provided
direct cash aid to.....
 
Hamas - $351 M,

Libya      $1.45 B,

Egypt - $397 M,

Mexico - $622 M,

Russia - $380 M,

Haiti -    $1.4 B,

Jordan - $463 M,

Kenya - $816 M,

Sudan - $870 M,

Nigeria - $456 M,

Uganda - $451 M,

Congo - $359 M,

Ethiopia - $981 M,

Pakistan - $2 B,

South Africa - $566 M,

Senegal - $698 M,

Mozambique - $404 M,

Zambia - $331 M,

Kazakhstan - $304 M,

Iraq      -   $1.08 B,

Tanzania - $554 M,

...with literally Billions of Dollars, and they still
hate us!!!

But on the other hand, 

Our retired seniors, living on a 'fixed income,'
Receive NO aid!!!

Nor do they get any breaks, while our government and religious organizations will pour
Hundreds of BillionsOf $$$$$$'s and Tons of Food to Foreign Countries!!!

Someone needs to explain to them, that
Charity
begins AT HOME!!!

And another atrocity....

We have Hundreds of adoptable
American Children who are shoved aside to make room for the adoption of
Foreign orphans.

AMERICA: A country where we have Countless Homeless without shelter,
Children going to bed hungry, Elderly going without needed medication and the Mentally ill
without treatment -- etc.

YET..........

They will have a 'Benefit' Show

For the people of Haiti , on 12 TV Stations; Ships and planes lining up with food, water,
tents clothes, bedding, doctors, and medical supplies.

Now Just Imagine if

Our own *GOVERNMENT*,

Gave 'US' the same support they give to foreign countries.

Sad, isn't it???

99% of people won't forward this.

WELL, I'm one of the 1% who Just Did!!!

U.S. Gov. Stages Shutdown Extravaganza, Meanwhile Money is Actually Flowing

U.S. Gov. Stages Shutdown Extravaganza, Meanwhile Money is Actually Flowing

In a world where up is down, left is right and in is out, you can never believe what your government tells you anymore.




WASHINGTON, DC – OCTOBER 5: House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) arrives to Capitol Hill as the federal government shut down goes in to its fifth day on October 5, 2013 in Washington, DC. The House will vote today on the measure to restore back pay to federal employees who have been furloughed during the shutdown before recessing until Monday. The vote is expected to pass with bipartisan support. (Photo by Chris Maddaloni/Getty Images)
Editorial
By Shepard Ambellas
Intellihub.com
October 5, 2013
WASHINGTON — It’s sad to say that nearly everything you have been told on the boob-tube (i.e. T.V.) about the “government shutdown” is an outright lie. In fact, the U.S. Government didn’t shutdown too much of anything and now the figureheads have passes legislation unanimously in the House that would provide payment of all back-wages to furloughed government employees.[1]
So what is all the “shutdown” hype about?
Likely all of this is a grand spectacle to gain approval for a failed Obamacare program. The current administration loves using strong-arm tactics to get what they want, lying to the American people all of the way to the bank. According to the actual Oct. 2, daily U.S. Treasury Statement[2], quite a bit of action has taken place since the beginning of the new fiscal year. In fact, CNSNews.com reported, “The Treasury also sold $1.648 billion in new Treasury securities–which is government debt.
Among the things, the federal government spent money on during the “partial government shutdown” was $1.129 billion in salaries for federal employees.
To put things in perspective, in the first two days of fiscal 2013 (Oct. 1-Oct. 2, 2012), when there was not a “shutdown,” the federal government spent $124.409 billion, collected $29.057 billion in taxes, paid out $2.542 billion in federal salaries and sold $100.91 billion in new Treasury securities (or government debt).”[3] 
This comes as a major slap in the face to most Americans whom have trusted in their omnipotent leader for years now to turn the country’s economy around. However, many are beginning to see the writing on the wall as the Obama Administration has looted and thrown monies into the pockets of corporations and bankers worldwide. There is literally no cap or anyway to stop what might come next.
Obama has already passed more Executive Orders and has spent or given away more U.S. funds than any other President in U.S. history, making him the all-time robber-baron of current U.S. history. The once great empire we call America is now bankrupt and left to die a slow death amidst a failing infrastructure.

Sources:
[1] House unanimously approves back pay for 800,000 furloughed federal workers - NBCNews.com
[2] Daily Treasury Statement (Oct. 2, 2013) – fms.tras.gov
[3] What a ‘Shutdown’ Means: $63B Spent, $26B Taxed; $1.6B Borrowed; $1B Paid in Salaries–in Just 2 Days - CNSNews.com

http://intellihub.com/2013/10/05/u-s-gov-stages-shutdown-extravaganza-meanwhile-money-actually-flowing/

Crisis: USDA Orders States to Withhold Electronic Food Stamps

Crisis: USDA Orders States to Withhold Electronic Food Stamps

EBT shutdown risks widespread looting, riots by welfare recipients
Paul Joseph Watson


October 16, 2013
The USDA is directing states to withhold Electronic Transfer Benefits for the month of November until further notice, setting up a potential food stamp crisis that could very easily lead to riots and widespread looting if the government shutdown drags on.

The USDA, which oversees the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), issued the order in a letter to SNAP administrators which states, “Understanding the operational issues and constraints that States face, and in the interest of preserving maximum flexibility, we are directing States to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to State electronic benefit transfer (EBT) vendors until further notice.”
In other words, up to 47 million Americans who rely on food stamps to feed themselves face the prospect of going hungry next month.
An EBT system failure that occurred this past weekend led to “mini-riots” and looting at several Walmart stores. In Springhill and Mansfield, Louisiana, shelves were cleared as frenzied customers tried to exploit unlimited credit balances that had temporarily been applied to their EBT cards as a result of the system glitch. Store managers also had to close a Walmart and call police in Philadelphia, Mississippi after customers began rioting when their EBT cards stopped functioning.
EBT card users responded by invoking the threat of widespread riots if the system went down again for any sustained period of time. More conspiratorial types even suggested that Saturday’s glitch was a beta test for a future total food stamp shutdown.
Imagine how millions of people living near the poverty line are going to react when they find out that their EBT cards may not be credited next month as a result of the government shutdown.
In the state of Utah alone, 100,000 people will see their benefits frozen. Richard Phillips, a homeless man who relies on food stamps, told Fox 13, “It’s going to cause problems… because then you’re going to come to find out that you’re going to have people starting to steal and do what they have to do to survive.”
“This is going to create a huge hardship for the people we serve here in our food pantry,” said Crossroads Urban Center’s Associate Director Bill Tibbits.
As we reported on Monday, aside from a failure to fund the government, food stamps could also be withdrawn if the U.S. fails to raise its debt ceiling this week. According to a Bipartisan Policy Center report, food stamps and Social Security checks could be delayed for up to four days.
“In the most heavily armed nation in the world, and arguably the one where a massive portion of the population is now fully reliant on the welfare state for virtually every daily need, it is easy to see cutting off daily bread to tens of millions has a less than happy ending,” reports Zero Hedge, characterizing the crisis as potentially “the most catalytic event in the history of the US welfare state.”
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Obama blames Fox News

Says it very clear and  needs to be sent on and on and on................

Subject: : Obama blames Fox News
  Most of the folks who blame Fox News don’t watch Fox News.
Obama is blaming Fox News for 2/3 of the country disliking Obamacare.
Here's Neal Cavuto's explanation and it is great.
If you don't understand what is bad about ObamaCare please read his comments and you will understand.
Mr. President, Fox News isn't what's making Americans sick about your healthcare law. Your healthcare law is. Welcome, everybody, I'm Neil Cavuto. And excuse this departure from form. But I think this is just poor form. So, it's time we set some things straight.

Mr. President, we at Fox News are not the problem. I hate to break it to you, sir. You are. Your words are. your promises are. We didn't sell this healthcare law. Sir, you did. Remember this?

President Barack Obama: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period.

Mr. President, tell that to tens of thousands of retirees at IBM and Time Warner and dozens of others, who've been dumped from their coverage and told to find their own coverage. Fox News didn't break that news to them, Mr. President. Their companies did.

Fox News didn't push more of those firms to hire part-time workers. Your healthcare law did.
Fox News didn't incentivize fast food restaurants to scale back their benefits. Your healthcare law did.
Fox News didn't make doctors want to opt out. Your healthcare law did.
Fox News didn't make insurance premiums sky rocket. Your healthcare law did.
Just like Fox News didn't grant hundreds of exemptions to companies that needed them. You did.
And Fox News didn't delay one key provision after another, including online enrollment for those small business exchanges. You did.

Just like it wasn't Fox News that said we had to pass this to see what was in this. You did. Or was that Nancy Pelosi? Sometimes I'm confused. But of this I am not.
Fox News didn't re-do basic math. Sir, You did.
Fox News didn't say you can cover 30 million more Americans and not see a hit in premiums. You did.
Fox News didn't say you could throw in those with pre-existing conditions and not have to pay for it. You did. Fox News didn't all but say you could get something for nothing. You did.
Fox News didn't come back years later and say, oh yea, we did raise some taxes. You did.

Here's where you are right about Fox News, however, Mr. President. We can do math. And did. You cannot. And did not. We said it, and proved it. You didn't. And we're ALL suffering for it.

Take it from the numbers guy at Fox. Numbers don't lie.
The number of Americans working part-time and nervous.
The number of retirees days away from being dumped on exchanges and anxious.
The number of company bosses with any news to pass along on those exchanges, but still clueless.
The number of doctors who want out.
The number of congressmen now opting out.
No, Mr. President, none of those numbers lie.

But with all due respect sir, I can only conclude you do know; I know, I know you hate us at Fox. But please take a look in a mirror, and fast.


You think we're the skunk at your picnic. But that doesn't mean we're the ones that stink. Because that smell isn't coming from the folks reporting on your law. Mr. President, that smell is your law.

CLINT EASTWOOD AND A ONE SENTENCE EDITORIAL

I like this man
 SEMPER FI................................................                   



CLINT EASTWOOD AND A ONE SENTENCE EDITORIAL

This one sentence editorial appeared in the Peoria Journal Star  . . . . .

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."

Then Clint Eastwood added his words  . . . . .


"We Americans are so tired of being thought of as dumbasses by the rest of the world that we went to the polls this past November and removed all doubt."

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!

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Conservatism or Socialism

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: Conservatism or Socialism


Note: I usually send this as an attachment but I think the liberals have taken over my computer. If I try to send an attachment the computer locks up and refuses to cooperate. Nothing I do or say helps. I would hope the republicans, conservatives and Tea Party members of the U.S. House will stick to their demands and not give in the liberals. Even if we have this so called "shutdown". One of my friend sent me this quip "how often do we hear that Social Security is going broke but we never hear that welfare is going broke". As we look at this statement we see where both parties have failed; by not passing a budget and sticking with it. The liberals are afraid if they had a budget that would impose a limit on their funds to buy votes. The republicans, well what can I say, they just don't get it. And we may do well to remember this saying, "it is not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog". Lets kick some liberal butt!


Conservatism or Socialism


I retired when I was 74. Not 62, not 65 but at 74, 31 December 2012. I could have retired earlier but I felt I needed to stay active; politics had made me be somewhat cautious. I did not want to leave the daily arena of life with the ominous clouds that were foreboding of the times ahead. I could see that liberalism was slowly gaining ground in our politics. I voiced my displeasure from time to time, supported what I thought was conservatives and went on with my daily routine. What I did not see was the damage that results when we fail to require people to understand our democracy and that people, from birth, have to be raised to care for their self and support a government controlled by the people; not a government that controls the people.


The problem with being a conservative; you have to take care of yourself and your family. You have to understand that the people should control the government. You have to understand we are here to support the government. The government is not here to support us. You have to understand that equality is not a birthright. Equality comes from living in a democracy and participating in the maintenance of that democracy.


The problem with being a liberal; is that you give up your right to participate in a democratic government. Once you exchange your vote for the promises of the liberals you are from then on a ward of the state. You then march to the propaganda machine of the liberals. You then rely on the government for upkeep and political thoughts. By now you should see where this is going. By its very nature liberalism fails; either conservatives regain control or liberalism becomes socialism.


Due to our (conservatives) lack of focus on leadership we have let the republicans gradually move left of center and now have become rinos. The rinos, fearing losing the next election have tried to pander to some liberal issues to get votes. The conservatives, seeing rinos running scared, have joined with the Tea Party in supporting conservative issues. This has helped to slow down the liberals but not stop them. Think about this; if there was no Tea Party where would we be now?


bho and the liberals would have complete control of the USA. The borders would be open and we would be overwhelmed by illegals. The treasury would be running 24/7 to print enough money for the liberals to spend. Inflation would be rampant. This country would be ruined forever. AND WE ARE ALMOST THERE NOW.


To those that are unsure where they are on the political scale at this time; Try to develop some kind of logical process to evaluate where you see your future. Look at what political system will be in your future. Look at what you will have or require for the rest of your life. Look at what you have now. What will it take for me to be socially, economically and politically secure for the rest of my life. What will be my livelyhood? Will I have enough goods and services? Will there be a political system that will operate the country? Who will control this political system? Will we have adequate military to protect the country? What political group will I be associated with? Who will control this political group? Numerically where will my political group stand? Will I be a taker or a giver? If I am a taker will there be enough takers to protect my right to take?


What if there is nothing to take? Socialism is not an efficient producer of goods and services, takers beware!


"THE GLOBAL WARMING" LIE - FORWARDED BY ERASMUS OF AMERICA - OCT. 16, 2013

"THE GLOBAL WARMING" LIE - FORWARDED BY ERASMUS OF AMERICA - OCT. 16, 2013    


     A MEMORIAL QUOTE: "THE REAL REASON THAT WE CAN'T HAVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN A COURTHOUSE IS THAT YOU CANNOT POST 'THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, AND THOU SHALL NOT LIE' IN A BUILDING FULL OF LAWYERS, JUDGES AND POLITICIANS. IT CREATES A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMNENT." - GEORGE CARLIN

    THE 'GLOBAL WARMING LIE" quoted from the The Good Word, October/November/December 2013 edited by Tom C. McKenney - www.wordsforlivingministries.org :
    "If we distill the Left (Democrats/socialists/statists/progressives/secularists), and the Right (conservatives/patriots/Libertarians/God-honoring people) down in their purest forms, we can express each in one word - the Left - Control; and the Right - Freedom.
     Which brings us to the global warming "crisis." The global warming hysteria, with which children are being indoctrinated in our government schools, is not about tsunamis and saving the polar bears; it is about control. It is crippling our economy, and it is a lie. In 2007 BBC reported as a scientific "fact," that by the Summer of 2013 the Arctic ice cap would be entirely melted. People got hysterical about the polar bears. Instead, the chilly Arctic Summer, just past, kept the Northwest Passage closed all summer with ice, and expanded the Arctic ice cap by 60%; almost a million square miles of ice were added in 2013, over the ice cap in 2012 (London Daily Mail 7 Sept 2013-BBC News 12 Dec 2007)" - End of quoted article.
     Comment from Erasmus of America. Heard maybe a week ago or two over the TV that "Global Warming" was now a proven scientific fact and that the Arctic ice cap was melting so fast now that it threatened soon to flood the coastlines and cities close to the oceans. When Gorbachev came to America, he sent a communication to American Communists that the environmental movement was controlled by Communist leaders and this environmental movement would be the front that would bring Communism into national power and control of the American government. So the Communists were to push the environmental movement hard as they could to victory in America. P.S. The famous picture with the Polar Bear hanging off the edge of melted ice was later admitted by the photographer to have been shot in the summer when the ice had traditionally melted, not in the winter when it was frozen and much larger. But the people were not told this and told this photo showed what happened in the winter with "Global Warming." They were tricked by this deception.
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 The persecution of Christians in the Middle East
By George Marlin
10/15/2013
Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)
For many months now there have been plenty of headlines devoted to the unrest in the Middle East, notably in Egypt and Syria. What has been missing, however, is any significant media coverage of the ongoing anti-Christian persecutions in those two countries. The world was just deliberating at the UN-silence. Where is the outrage?
       WASHINGTON,DC (Aid to the Church in Need) - The media seems indifferent or fearful of criticizing the criminal and terrorist activities of Muslim extremists-or journalists get the story plain wrong. Glaring case in point: a recent BBC report, covering the rebel attack on the ancient Syrian Christian village of Maaloula, claimed that "the fighting in Maaloula is the first such attack on a notable Christian community since the start of the uprising. Residents of many Christian villages around Homs and Hama have been fleeing the violence along with members of other communities, but had not up until now been attacked themselves."
     Yet, young Christian girls are being raped and murdered, while Christian churches, monasteries, homes, and workplaces are being systematically destroyed. Syrian Catholic bishops have warned that their country is becoming a "second Iraq" owing to similar patterns of Church attacks and forced expulsion and kidnapping of Christians. During Saddam Hussein's reign of terror, Iraq's Christian population plummeted from 1.4 million to fewer than 300,000. Many of those Christian refugees settled in Syria, which was considered, at that time, a more tolerant country.
     According to Church sources, the major industrial city of Homs, home to Syria's largest Christian population, has borne the brunt of violence. Attacks on Christian churches, schools, convents, as well as homes and businesses, have caused a mass exodus. It is estimated that 50,000 Christians, about 90 percent of the Christian population of Homs, have fled to the mountains or have sought refuge in Lebanon. Those left behind cannot find work and earn money to support their families. Food has been scarce and unaffordable. Before the start of the fighting in Syria, the Christian community accounted for some 10 percent of the Syrian population of 22 million.
      Charitable organizations such as Aid to the Church in Need, the Catholic Near East Welfare Association, and others have been providing food and shelter for the Christian victims of Syria's civil war, both within Syria and in refugee camps in Lebanon.
      One hundred miles south of Homs, in Damascus, Christians are suffering a similar fate. The Greek Catholic Archbishop there has reported that 40,000 Christians from the Syrian capital have fled or have been displaced. Church attendance has declined by 60 percent since 2011 and there were only 30 baptisms in 2012. More than 40 churches have been destroyed; priests and deacons have been murdered.
     Sister Joseph-Marie Chanaa of the Sisters of Charity, who has been helping war-battered families, recently told representatives of Aid to the Church in Need that: "what is happening here is inhuman. Young people are abducted. Dead bodies are chopped up, the arms and legs are cut off and then cut into pieces." In April 2013, two Orthodox archbishops were kidnapped near the city of Aleppo. The prelates were returning from the Turkish border, having negotiated the release of two priests who had been taken as hostages. Their car was ambushed and the driver, a deacon, was murdered. The fate of the two Syrian archbishops has remained unknown to this day. There is no doubt that the lawlessness caused by the civil war in Syria has given radicals the opportunity to single out and to terrorize Christians.
     Christians in Egypt are suffering a similar fate. Taking advantage of the chaos since President Mohamed Morsi was forced out of office and put under arrest, the Muslim Brotherhood has looted and destroyed more than 80 churches, scores of religious facilities, and untold numbers of Christian-run stores.
      Many Christians have been abducted so extremists can extort ransom money. Complaints by Christians to the police about Islamist attacks and abuse have gone unheeded. To give the faithful some protection, the Coptic Patriarch wants to build walls around the cathedral in Alexandria and all ecclesiastical facilities in Korby El Korba.
     Coptic-Catholic Bishop Kyrillos William Samaan of Assiut explained that "the [Muslim Brotherhood] thinks that the Christians were the cause of Morsi being ousted. But the Christians are not alone:  there were 35 million peope who took to the streets in protest against Morsi. But Christians are being punished. We have been scapegoated." Egyptian Christians make up 10 percent of the total population of 85 million.
     Bishop Samaan, who expressed hope that a new constitution will guarantee "the equality of all Egyptians-Christian as well as Muslims-before the law," is saddened by what he has called the indifference of the Western governments: "[They] are speaking about human rights, [but] do not see the reality of what is going on here. A group of terrorists have used arms against us. Western governments should not be supporting this."
     Many young Christians have mobilized to defend their churches. In 12-hour-shifts they are stationed outside their churches to prevent attacks. A Spanish Comboni missionary, Sister Expedita Perez who has helped organize some of these watch groups, said that "Christians want to stand their ground and defend themselves from the terrorists. [Young Christians] are surrounding the churches alongside their other brothers in faith, both Orthodox and Protestant. We are all united."
     Sadly, their brothers and sisters in the West-their governments and major media remaining pretty much mum-are largely unaware that ancient Christian communities are being dismantled and destroyed.
     There is one new development. The US Senate is due to vote on a bill that would create at the State Department a new special envoy whose mandate is to speak out on behalf of vulnerable religious minorities in the Middle East and South Central Asia. The bill, introduced by Congressman Frank Wolf (R-Va.), was passed by the US House of Representatives in a lop-sided vote, 402-22, Sept. 19.
But the State Department already commented that such a move would be "unnecessary, duplicative, and likely counterproductive." Two years ago the same bill was blocked from ever coming to a vote. The stakes are enormous, as Congressman Wolf made clear when, in making the case for the bill, he quoted German Lutheran pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who died because of his opposition to the Nazi regime: "Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act."
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Mr. Marlin is Chairman of the Board of Aid to the Church in Need, an international Catholic charity under the guidance of the Holy See providing assistance to the suffering and persecuted Church in more than 140 countries. www.churchinneed.org 
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First they came for the Tea Party
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Tea Party member.

Then they came for the church members
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a church member.

Then they came for the political independents
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a political independent.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak for me. Then America fell into a total federal police state of Wash., D.C. covering all of America as a vast concentration camp for all who thought or wanted freedom in the nation. - Americanized version of an old German quote by Erasmus of America

Comment By Erasmus of America
     Washington, D.C. under Obama control apparently got wildly upset Columbus Day, Oct. 14 with my report "Drive 124.6 Miles Per Gallon" which they were apparently  reading my report by electronic spying as I wrote it. This report was telling about a driving system developed by a university professor which was just correcting bad driving habits and no devices used and he got up to 124.6 miles per gallon driving his car with this correction of bad driving habits system. In panic, apparent Obama boys of Wash., D.C. did all they could to try to block this report from being nationally released. Obama has no respect for the U.S. Bill of Rights nor the U.S. Constitution and so uses the NSA, etc. to spy on political writers, thinkers, etc. not controlled by him and tries to block them if he thinks that the people may listen to this outsider not controlled by Obama. Congress needs to investigate the criminal use of NSA, etc. for criminal purposes like Richard Nixon did with his "Watergate Plumber" crew. Time for Obama to resign like Richard Nixon did from the White House!
     Since I went under savage hacker attack while preparing this report showing the ordinary Americans how to potentially greatly increase their gas mileage by correction of bad driving habits, I don't submit to police state tactics as was just tried here to silence me by Obama boys working for apparently the White House in Wash., D.C. Therefore I have posted this report on my website "Drive 124.6 Miles Per Gallon" which is what a university professor got using this system correcting bad driving habits  with his car. And I sent John at Nesara News the report DRIVE 124.6 MILES PER GALLON which he posted on Oct. 14, 2013 - Columbus Day and then I sent to him privately the 7 BONUS ANSWER REPORT which tells in detail how the driving system works developed by this university professor plus 6 more complete answers to things publicized in the original report DRIVE 124.6 MILES PER GALLON. We copied the original report from Nesara News exactly as posted, but on our website, the software condensed the appearance of the report a bit so it would fit on the website, but all the information is there for you!

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