TNT CALL, 4 JUNE
TNT call 4-June-2014 Notes
[Call started with chitchat between Pam and Ray.]
Tony: Good afternoon, TNT! Today is
Wednesday, June 4th, 2014. There are 72 raised hands on the phone
line. If I have talked to you in the last month, please put
your hand down NOW so that we can talk to some other people and give them a
chance. Okay? If you can’t do it, I will do it,
but I’d appreciate your doing that so that I can go down the line.
DC: I’m great!
Tony: I am super-super-fantastic. We know
we have a great day and week ahead; a lot of things happened last
night and we will try to explain it without crossing the line. I
need to put this example out there: most of you were
probably kids at some point in your life, and you had very good, loving
parents. AT times you went out and did things that other kids were
doing, like riding the bike down the hill with no hands, or eating all the
Halloween candy. Your parents said NO, but the other kids were riding
their bikes and crashing into trees, or waking up the next morning with an
upset tummy, and the parentssaid, “See?” At the time, you
whined and cried, and asked WHY? And the parents said, “Because I
said so!”
When the process involves and affects us directly, we can ****
and complain. When it’s bigger than us, we need to let things happen as they
happen.
We don’t always get to know the reasons
why, but you do need to trust that I am looking out for your
interests. The adults in the room know this. I will have
DC explain some things. If this was something that would hurt you, I
would tell you. If it’s in our favour, I will let DC tell you about
it! You guys know that I couldn’t say super-fantastic because I was
frustrated, but then I found out some things and now we are feeling really
good. Some things have been changed and rearranged that
make me glad for us as Americans. It’s really good stuff.
WE had some meetings yesterday… DC?
DC: Hello from Dallas, TX; I love
Texas! The meetingshave been at many
different locations and also teleconferences. Some things
we are not going to say because it’s not the right thing to do. On
Monday, we were back on the ½ inch line… until a couple hours after when we took
a pause. Some viewed that as a necessary step due to power, politics and
security in Iraq.
Tony: Monday it was scheduled for 3pm, and it started
going, then they paused.
DC: What ended up happening is that for several
different reasons (most of which have changed), they said to hold on right
before they went. That was aggravating. There was a
confusion about Iraqi and US politics, plus some power games,
etc. That started yesterday when everyone said “same time, same
place, we’ve got enough solved.” They tried for 3pm again, and another
complaint paused it again. This one was met with very strong
reactions in the international community, which motivated everyone to switch
over to who was pushing the system along.
There are a couple people who are the glue here, senior
statesmen we are grateful to, and there has to be an elected official who is
pushing this along. People ARE pushing this, then people pushing
against. Finally the opponents said ‘uncle’, especially the US who
keeps asking them to slow this down for various reasons. They
finally got mad again, like last Thursday. They decided to move out
without the US. That started the process yet again, last night, and
they are running that right now.
Now the folks pushing have more determination, and the folks
resisting are not as firm because they believe they have enough to get their
goals accomplished. The back and forth has changed, so now it is
very much in the ‘forth’ mode, everyone trying to get this done
now.
The senior gentlemen are also pushing forward to get this done,
along with international elected officials pushing to get this done.
Tony: It amazes me how they constantly say I give out
too much information – that I talk too much! OMG! That is
why DC is here, because I wouldn’t have said half of that.
This is a fact: I gave you the time on Monday and DC
reinforced it. They don’t want everyone to know about the
exact date and time because people will take steps. It’s
not always about us, it’s about the world. If it is public
knowledge, they will change it again. They will not do this at 3pm
again, for instance. They had issues with the same time, that has
been solved.
Along with that, ‘everything that glitters is not
gold’; everything you hear is not the truth, although there may be
pieces of the truth in there. Unless you know both sides of the
coin, there is no way to come up with the truth, and you don’t know what the
next coin looks like. We don’t have all the info but a strong
90%
[DC: more like 66%.] We do have
information from both sides of the coin, both are credible but have reasons not
to trust each other. Actually, it’s a three-sided
coin. They have their reasons; each group is not fully
aware of the other groups’ reasons.
DC: Each group has different public views,
too. If we told people what we understand, you’d find some
legitimate and some are not. Each side has both.
Tony: Today, right now, this morning, everybody has
agreed to disagree and ‘let’s just do this’. We think this is great
and we’ll see how it turns out afterwards. We are in a
super-fantastic position and this should be a great week.
Hold on for a second. Today we need to talk about the
rollout procedures, information we should have and what we need to do when the
bell rings. We are trying to find outthe order of that so that
we can respond to you guys immediately. It may take a while, or it may be
within 15 minutes; we are trying to find that out. We
have agreed to calls for 7 to 14 days, but what we are working out is what to
do immediately to get you the best information about the process and our
opinions on how to do things (if I’m allowed to do
that). I will do the best I can.
214 caller: How are you today?
Tony: I’m super-fantastic and it’s a great day to be
a dinarian! It’s not a day to be frustrated. It’s a great
week and we should be celebrating what they accomplished yesterday evening
.
Caller: When will you be coming over here?
Tony: We just don’t have that many buses in
California to go to Texas! <laughter>
DC: Unfortunately, certain Texans would show up at
banks every time Tony says this is close. I’m sorry to say that we
did that a lot…
Caller: We have a language barrier in this
state that has been building for the last ten years. Tony, do you
knowthe difference between a pecan and a peecan? You make pie
from one, and put the other under the bed! Are you going to open a
bank in our state?
Tony: I’m looking to buy A bank to do the things I
want to do. They don’t even want me to do that, and wrote a law
against it already. I am going to do something with a group to buy
that bank, so we’ll see.
Caller: I’ll figure out how to get in touch with you.
I can’t believe I got on this call! I just figured it out.
423 caller: When you get your donations, do you read
the little notes that go with them?
Tony: The majority don’t come with notes, so I do
read the ones I get.
Caller: I wrote that it’s more entertaining to listen
to you than talking books as I go down the road! You said that those
who wanted it to wait until 1. June, and it has, and then they want it to wait
until 1. July; is that connected to the new tax laws that come in then?
Tony: It is for a very good reason that had nothing
to do with us and our cash-out, but everything to do with us as
Americans. You can ask DC, because he slips
up! <laughter> Everything that glitters is not
gold; we don’t’ really know until we hear all the
explanations. Then it kind of makes sense and we can’t be mad about
it.
Caller: I haven’t seen any comments on that on the
forum, and I read an article about the tax laws, so I wondered about any
possible connection.
Tony: When my kids ask me for advice and then don’t
take it, I say “Go out there and bump your heads; you’ll
see.” And that is what they’re doing. We’ll see who’s right and
who’s not.
832 caller: At the end of DC’s deal, he said everyone
agrees, more or less, and then they have a 24-48 hour window to get it done…
they keep getting blocked or having the football pulled away at the last
minute. If these guys want to get it done, and there is a lockdown…
If they want to get it done and there are not bathroom breaks until it is done…
Tony: It’s still a chess game.
DC: Nobody has 100% control of this
thing. There are many key players with influential
parts. So having the key people in the room can be good for the
first hour, then they lose influence, and they go back and
forth. The reason they have this lockdown and all these meetings is
to get everyone in the room and talk it out. Some of those folks aren’t sowing
up or not showing up with the right answers. IF you are trying to
delay a deal, the last thing you want is to be pinned in a room with a lot of
people who actually want to get it done, especially if they remember things
you’ve done to them in the past. It’s not a black-and-white event in
some people’s eyes. To them, it’s all shades of grey, and those
people are hard to pin down to actually getting this done. The guys
who have been resisting have now said “It’s on you; if you can get
it done, great!”
612 caller: Thank you for
everything. There are some things I know that I’d like to share, but
not sure to bring it up on air with all ears listening. For
instance, what about the dark pool, or backroom trading? One of the reasons
this has been black pool trading that is pushing this week. Can we
also talk about Canada and Mexico? The dong is live on the screens
there. [Tony: More than just there.] Two
callers ago, you said they are trying to push this out to July for reasons that
benefit America. Is that still so?
DC: They still have those reasons, and their vote
counts; other folks disagree.
Tony: Their reasoning was with good intentions even
though we are not going to talk about what it was, and others disagree with the
reasoning itself.
Caller: I know exactly what you are talking
about. We are so focused on the dinar, which is a distraction for
the dong… People are not looking at what is right in front of them, such as the
VNN.
Tony: Were there better investment opportunities with
a better return? Yes. Did most people miss
them? Yes.
Caller: From the trillions flowing into the UST from the dark
pool trading, can we talk about what’s going on right now with the
VIPs? It should be in the order VIPs, private groups, then public.
With the VIPs, they have already started cashing in yesterday, mainly for oil
credits. [Tony and DC agreeing.] I’m trying to talk in code
here, so they don’t make me hang up. I know there are things we
cannot talk about, such as what is showing up now on the
screens. You haven’t talking much about preparing people until the
last minute. Can you warn people about where they stick their money
so they do not lose it?
Tony: We have talked about this for years, to
interview who they have in charge of their money, recommended reading the
books, etc. we cannot give out actual financial advice, but you need
to be educated and be careful. The bank’s job is to make money for
the bank, not for you.
Caller: If you look at JP Morgan, they have 7
trillion in assets and 70 trillion in derivatives. DC, in your
heart of hearts, and “it’s a great week for us”, are you talking about US or
Iraq?
DC: Iraq for sure, and get prepared for it to be us.
Caller: A little birdie told me something
interesting, and if you’d like to call me back, go to a pay phone…
Tony: I actually saw a working pay phone the other
day!
Caller: I’ve had issues with being on the
forum; I tried to get on and donate, but it was
impossible. I don’t know there is a way to donate off-air to you
guys directly? I’d like to make a contribution in thanks for what
you guys have done. We need to take care of those who are taking
care of us.
Tony: The forum is Pam’s baby. We are so
close; people want to get in the forum because of the security
blanket issue, and that is being put in motion, just in case. Don’t
worry about the forum; that will go away, and come up on tntsuperfantastic.com, .info and
.net. We will NOT be talking about dinar there, or politics, either.
Caller: About the second basket, you might want to
help people research it along the way? Or wait for
tntsuperfantastic…?
Tony: I know there is one, and they don’t want me to
give out that information. If you do know them, do it because it’s
your opportunity to go to the next level. Some that were supposed to
be in the second basket are now in the first basket; they wanted to
dampen that opportunity.
Caller: I was in the 101st in a
special strike team; if you want to talk off-air, you have my
number. I still have my clearance and my gag orders…
650 caller: Will the deletion of the zeros affect us
(for dinar)?
Tony: They will not affect us at
all. The rates will be applied without deleting zeros.
Caller: You’ve talked about 1. July… but that is no
longer in play?
Tony: The reasons are still considered valid by some
and not by others. They are no longer considered good enough reasons
to block this. They now agree to disagree.
Caller: You don’t believe the security blanket will
be necessary, is that correct?
Tony: What I’m being told is that we will not need
it. We’ll see.
Caller: Can you speak to the number of calls we will
need to go through to understand the procedure and then we can set an
appointment?
Tony: Let’s say it goes ten minutes from
now. I will FIRST tweet the number, put it on the forum, and
on the new sites. You can call that number as soon as you can, and
then come back to listen to us. It might take us a few hours to get
the package, then to go through it so that we understand it and can answer your
questions. There are some things to do.
DC: We are trying to get all that information ahead
of time; haven’t been successful so far, but we are still trying so
that we can be as responsive as possible.
Tony: We have to go through the same process as you
do, sign the NDAs and making our appointments. They want the first appointments
to be within two hours, which is probably before we can make a
call. I’ll tell you again: Who Moved My Cheese? Read it again!
Caller: I’ve missed a few calls on what to be
prepared for. Is that an online resource for that? I’m
not on the forum.
Tony: There is a list of ten things you
should do, take two forms of ID to get your accounts set up, all
that information. Try to take your spouse with you, too.
Caller: Can there be an email version of what was
posted, or could you tweet a link to that?
Tony: I don’t know. Email only goes out to
those on the forum. I could put it out on a blast, but there are
40,000 who click and download, and only 400-500 people are paying for
it. That’s a Pam thing.
Caller: I have donated, so you do have my
email; I also sent you an email directly.
Tony: Let’s see if we can do that; most of
our people are part of the forum, so I don’t know how many need that.
Caller: Is there anything in there about transferring
assets to trusts, or to gifts. I did find the gift letter.
Tony: Find a trust attorney who can tell
you how to transfer into trusts.
Caller: How close are we to touchdown today?
DC: We are back on the ½” line, really, really,
really close.
Caller: When do you have your reservations to Hawaii,
Tony?
Tony: I have to go to Michigan, NC, Atlanta, and
Vegas, THEN I get to go to Hawaii!
972 caller: We were just talking about the information
for getting set up once everything goes through. We will have
options about what banks we want to do with, right?
DC: Sorry, I had a preacher problem
there. WE have a few pastors on the intel team and they cannot find
that mute button!
Tony: You will dial the 800 number, and they will ask
for your name, email address and which bank you want to go with.
Caller: We don’t have to worry about groups, do we,
in terms of what we are doing?
Tony: There are some legitimate groups, and some
horrendous groups. For years, I ‘ve been saying that
people will so upset at the rate they accepted they will probably put a hit out
on the group leader. There are some legitimate groups, so make sure
which ones you are involved in. there is a gamut out
there. Some groups will be picked up when this
happens; they are under investigation now. It’s a matter
of ‘buyer beware’.
Caller: Have you heard how many zeros may be deleted
off the Zim?
Tony: This is what I’m going to tell
you: I go with the worst case scenario and get enough to cover what
I have to do. They have changed the number of zeros during the
process, so I would go with the worst, which is 9. Anything else is
a blessing.
352 caller: I have a quick question about common
trust.
Tony: Ray is the trust guy; he’s been
doing them for 20 years.
Caller: I hear common law trusts give us tax
advantages, so if Ray could say ‘yes it’s worth it’ or not, that would be
helpful.
Tony: You have to ask Ray, because I don’t know.
Caller: I have an analogy about the time
line. Let’s say a corporation is having a 100 year anniversary and
they want a cake for it. There Is one guy in charge of the shape,
another in charge of icing, a third in charge of the flour, etc.
Tony: The cake is in the truck and we need to know
where to get gas for the truck.
252 caller: Will you need to gift letter if someone
gave you the currency?
Tony: That’s why you want to show it in case they
want to know where it came from, in case you get audited or
whatever. Better safe than sorry.
Caller: Last week, I went to my long-time bank cash
my check, and the person said their system was down, but they could accept the
deposit. She couldn’t guarantee that I would get the cash at another
branch, because the system was down across the state. I went to a
different bank, and the lady there said that the system is down and it may or
may not come up tomorrow. This was one of the big five, and this was
11.30am for the first bank and 4pm for the second bank. The second
one gave me the same words as the other bank had told me.
Tony: Chase, WF, Bank of America have
regular days when they cannot connect because of updates and for other
things. So it may or may not have to do with the RV as
such. They do typically give them scripts so that they can get
it right.
602 caller: I’ve been
listening to your phone calls, and I don’t have gag orders, I just have
questions. DC, you said that the process is going again? And do
these people understand that the more they hold this up, the more people buy?
DC: Yes, it is ongoing, and
yes, they do understand that frustration is mounting and people are buying
more. For the most part, people are smart and they get all
that. Some are just blind.
Caller: Is the VNN still in
the first basket, and upward of 1 ½ minutes?
DC: Yes, the VNN Is in the
first basket, and the rates are better than we expected.
Caller: Are there still
four rates on the IQN? And are we on the end of the line still?
DC: Yes, four rates on the
IQN. Most have gone through the line already and we are still
waiting for us to be dragged along.
Caller: On the donations,
many of us are living very frugally and it’s difficult to donate, although we
do support you.
Tony: That is why we keep
going. Some people just send five dollars, and every little bit
helps. Thank you to all who donate. We know that some can
and some can’t, and I have to give something to those who are able to
donate. We have 40,000 on the call, and 20,000 in the forum, and I
still have room for people under this security blanket, but I have to
prioritize. It’s not always about money; we just do what
we are supposed to do, and as long as we can afford it we will continue to do
it.
Caller: DC, if you could do
so, would you be planning to stay in the US, and not leave.
DC: Absolutely. Everyone
gets quite creative with their questions!
401 caller: I know you guys
are signing NDAs and cannot write books. But if I don’t sign one,
can I write your story? People would make more off the book than the
dinar!
Tony+DC: NO! That
won’t be allowed.
Caller: I really don’t want
to change my cell phone number; can I just get another one to work
with the bank?
Tony: Don’t use the email,
phone number or computer you use now when you get together with the
bank. Once you get this money, your mailbox will fill up with people
who want you to donate to them or share with them.
The banks share their database with all these different companies who want to call you and share your name with all their associates.
Get another phone, and tell your wealth manager that you don’t want any of those associates to contact you directly, only through the wealth manager. Get a PO Box. You can still use your existing phone for your friend, just don’t tell them you have money!
The banks share their database with all these different companies who want to call you and share your name with all their associates.
Get another phone, and tell your wealth manager that you don’t want any of those associates to contact you directly, only through the wealth manager. Get a PO Box. You can still use your existing phone for your friend, just don’t tell them you have money!
Caller: This is a whole new
world for me. I was talking to my son who said that if I really want
privacy, I shouldn’t get a computer from a store because I’ll be the registered
user!
DC: Ask how much you are
willing to do to protect your privacy? Changing your phone number,
email and computer, that’s all pretty easy. You have to do
what you’re comfortable with and also with what’s practical.
Some people get ten burner phones and rotate them every three months, but that is a real pain to do.
Some people get ten burner phones and rotate them every three months, but that is a real pain to do.
Tony: I live in Sacramento,
and in the paper it said the cops pulled over his car and found his driver’s
license was expired. So they searched his car and found fifty credit
cards and drivers licences, people’s mail and receipts.
They then searched his house, and there was fifty times as much! You need to know these people are out there. You need to get a black card. There are places where I go that I don’t even let them have my card number.
When I valet park my card, I lock everything up and give them the valet key. So be careful; you’ll have a lot of money and will be a target for a lot of people.
They then searched his house, and there was fifty times as much! You need to know these people are out there. You need to get a black card. There are places where I go that I don’t even let them have my card number.
When I valet park my card, I lock everything up and give them the valet key. So be careful; you’ll have a lot of money and will be a target for a lot of people.
Caller: Will you have this
advice written up on your website so that we can copy it?
Tony: Probably
not. We’ve gone through this for four days… we don’t even want to do
daily calls for 14 days! WE have other things to do. I
think we will compromise on ten days. As for the events, WF has
agreed to do events with us as new millionaires, similar to what they do with
lottery winners and athletes who come into a lot of money. We’ll let
them handle that.
Caller: I hope you will
have someone from Sterling to talk about the reserves, because we need to know
how they are processing that. [Appreciation] I usually clean house
while I listen, but soon I’ll be able to hire someone to do that!
Tony: We appreciate
that. Be sure to thank Pam, Ray, the rest of our intel team, the
Mods and the transcribers. You don’t know all our intel team, but
they work long hours. It’s not two hours three days per week, it’s
all day and every day. So make sure you go in and appreciate them.
407 caller: I’m
excited about where we are. We haven’t heard anything about taxes –
will this be taxed as a currency exchange or as a joint venture contract?
DC: Bottom line is that we
don’t know the tax situation right now. We hope it will be in the
packets, but it’s not very clear. There are things in different
committees, so we just don’t know. Plan for the worst taxes possible, put that
aside, wait for the all the rulings to come out, and then we’ll know.
Plan for the worst, because the IRS can ruin your life. In my former life, I knew a lot of guys who did bad things to bad people, and they’re not afraid of anyone, but they fear the IRS. You can drop them off in a foreign country where they don’t speak the language and have the clothes on their back, and they’re fine. They get a letter from the IRS and they’re scared!
Plan for the worst, because the IRS can ruin your life. In my former life, I knew a lot of guys who did bad things to bad people, and they’re not afraid of anyone, but they fear the IRS. You can drop them off in a foreign country where they don’t speak the language and have the clothes on their back, and they’re fine. They get a letter from the IRS and they’re scared!
Caller: Will we be able to
take this money and move to another country?
DC: If you are an
expatriate, you just have to follow the rules and you’ll be fine. If
you go to a bad country, that is dangerous. If you want to go to
England or Panama, follow the rules and you’ll be okay. No communist
or dictatorial countries, that’s all.
713 caller: These calls are
full of highs and lows. DC said it should it have gone at 3pm, and I
thought “great”. Then DC says, “don’t’ look at 3pm today.” This has been going
on since November, so… [more of the same] are we looking at this being done
before the weekend or more like July 1st? This cycle of
anticipation is a nightmare. Is there a possibility we don’t have to
go through the weekend.
Tony: A good possibility.
We have been going through this since November, and especially since the RI in
April because we hear it is going every day or every couple of days, thee
someone stops it again. This is a chess game, and they want you to think that
they are playing with both sides of the board when they are actually moving
under the table.
When nine guys say that this is going down, they don’t know that the quiet guy in the corner was sent to pull the plug. We are telling you, but there was a bigger picture that those in the room didn’t fully understand.
There is something else going on, but everyone wants us to think it’s about us. There is something else going on, and they don’t want us to know what it is. I think I know 90% of what’s going on, and DC says it’s 66%. You can go out and feel some pain on your own! We can agree to disagree, but it’s not my fault.
I know what they agreed upon last night, but I don’t know what’s going to happen tonight or tomorrow, or they may decide that they cannot make it to the 1st but will settle on the 10th to soften it. There are two sides and they are trying to get to the same place, different ways. I can only tell you what’s happening in the moment.
Two weeks ago, things seemed to be going in the wrong direction, and I told you about that, too. We don’t do things at the weekend because the people working behind the scenes aren’t doing much either, and they are telling us to relax.
When nine guys say that this is going down, they don’t know that the quiet guy in the corner was sent to pull the plug. We are telling you, but there was a bigger picture that those in the room didn’t fully understand.
There is something else going on, but everyone wants us to think it’s about us. There is something else going on, and they don’t want us to know what it is. I think I know 90% of what’s going on, and DC says it’s 66%. You can go out and feel some pain on your own! We can agree to disagree, but it’s not my fault.
I know what they agreed upon last night, but I don’t know what’s going to happen tonight or tomorrow, or they may decide that they cannot make it to the 1st but will settle on the 10th to soften it. There are two sides and they are trying to get to the same place, different ways. I can only tell you what’s happening in the moment.
Two weeks ago, things seemed to be going in the wrong direction, and I told you about that, too. We don’t do things at the weekend because the people working behind the scenes aren’t doing much either, and they are telling us to relax.
DC: You have to understand
that we are passing on the information we are given. It is a constant chess
match and everyone in this thing are being jerked around even more than we
are. Imagine you have a job and the boss calls you in at 2pm Sunday
afternoon, and you can go in right away.
These are bankers, not soldiers. You don’t go into banking for the drama. These guys are being beat to hell, and then nothing happens. But they all strongly believe this is going down. Every time we say “everything is ready to go”, at least 2,600 people are called in and locked down again. We were within two minutes yesterday, because some jerk wanted to say that he had the power to stop a global process.
Sometimes it’s a security issue, and there are other things that delay it. That’s been going on 3-6 times per week since March, and 1-3 times since November. Even Presidents and Prime Ministers are being informed and they are exhausted by this, too. Everyone is exhausted because they have all been nickeled and dimed to get what they want. There are some senior statesmen who are doing a fine job to push this along, guys who with never be acknowledged.
It’s been exhausting for everyone – the speculators like us and the guys who are actually involved.
These are bankers, not soldiers. You don’t go into banking for the drama. These guys are being beat to hell, and then nothing happens. But they all strongly believe this is going down. Every time we say “everything is ready to go”, at least 2,600 people are called in and locked down again. We were within two minutes yesterday, because some jerk wanted to say that he had the power to stop a global process.
Sometimes it’s a security issue, and there are other things that delay it. That’s been going on 3-6 times per week since March, and 1-3 times since November. Even Presidents and Prime Ministers are being informed and they are exhausted by this, too. Everyone is exhausted because they have all been nickeled and dimed to get what they want. There are some senior statesmen who are doing a fine job to push this along, guys who with never be acknowledged.
It’s been exhausting for everyone – the speculators like us and the guys who are actually involved.
Caller; I have a contact
who says “it’s tonight” and I post that and get jumped on. If there
is a glitch, I would have thought it would happen the next day. Are
we looking at that kind of timeline, or is it a week away? This has
gotten so old. If it couldn’t have gone in November, December or
January, why did they play that monkey dance? If June 1st was
put in an month ago… do you feel it is going through every day or what?
DC: Let’s back up a little
bit. For the last nine weeks, it’s been down to the wire 3-6 times
per week, and several times it’s been within minutes. They could
have done it at that time.
It’s a day-to-day tactical fight now. At this point, when someone delays it more than 20 hours, that is considered a huge delay. That’s encouraging and frustrating. If we are waiting for the new government in Iraq, that alone could take months.
As it cranked up, since June was realized from Chapter 7 last June 27th, it’s been a daily fight. There were things they were willing to overlook, then they wanted to do this and that. It cranked up through October, trying to get it done. Then they took a pause, and in November, it started going on a nearly daily basis.
Sometimes it was half-hearted, sometimes they just wanted to piss people off. Then in December and January it was a daily effort, and again since April it’s been six days per week. That’s what has been happening and it’s horrible for everyone involved.
It’s a day-to-day tactical fight now. At this point, when someone delays it more than 20 hours, that is considered a huge delay. That’s encouraging and frustrating. If we are waiting for the new government in Iraq, that alone could take months.
As it cranked up, since June was realized from Chapter 7 last June 27th, it’s been a daily fight. There were things they were willing to overlook, then they wanted to do this and that. It cranked up through October, trying to get it done. Then they took a pause, and in November, it started going on a nearly daily basis.
Sometimes it was half-hearted, sometimes they just wanted to piss people off. Then in December and January it was a daily effort, and again since April it’s been six days per week. That’s what has been happening and it’s horrible for everyone involved.
Caller: Your mother just
called on the phone, and asks you for some peace of mind on this…
DC: They are getting more clever every time!
Tony: Just this morning, we
were reminded: “If you tell, we will not do it!”
DC: I would tell her to
take heart; everyone is leaning forward to get this
done. They are so exhausted and yet energized by what is
going on. The opposition has agreed to back off a little bit, and they
are trying to get this through. There are only a few little
things that need to get done. We are really close.
Caller: What is the purpose
of blocking this? Does everyone not want us to
prosper? Why would they NOT want this to go? The only
people can think of is the Federal Reserve, because this will put us back on
the Gold Standard. [more of same].
Tony: You said the Fed –
they own 30% or more of the majority of Central Banks. They will not
lose. They will make money whether it’s asset-backed or fiat
money. I heard why they were holding it back and if it’s right, then
I would hold it back, too.
When I look at it on a global scale, and if you agreed with the other side, you’d do that, too. It is nothing malicious, so far as I can see.
When I look at it on a global scale, and if you agreed with the other side, you’d do that, too. It is nothing malicious, so far as I can see.
DC: Lately, It’s been well
explained and people understand each other’s sides now. One side
says it’s not an issue, just relax, and the other side says, “Yes, but…”
Caller: Back in May, you
said June 1st, and now we’re at the 3rd…
Tony: No. I said
that they will try to go to June 1st, and if they make that, they
will try for July 1st. That is part of the
process; we are not making up stuff to tell you, we are just telling
you what’s going on.
DC: We are in a day-to-day
tactical fight. The evidence is overwhelming from every angle that we are in a
day-to-day fight. When that actually goes through I do not know.
Tony: We’ve put in our time
for today. DC?
DC: Thank you all for
listening. We love to learn the process beforehand so that we don’t
have six to ten hours of people running round with their head cut
off. We will talk to you very soon.
Tony: And it’s two hours for me to get here, so…
Pam: Please be find to the Mods and each other. We
have set up a rotating Mod of the Day, to honor those who
contribute. We sacrifice a lot to do this…
Tony: … and our families, and all the time we haven’t spent with
them over the last three years. My kids are in their 20s,
and Pam’s son is 20+ as well, and we’ve spent time here instead of with them.
Ray: It’s been a good ride; I’ve enjoyed
it. Take care, everyone!
Tony: Every time you say that, they think this is
done! We do feel good about where we’re at. A great wall
was broken through last night, and everyone is saying “Okay, go
ahead”. They are all happy with Iraq, and we’ll see who is right and
who’s wrong. Everyone is trying to do the right thing, in their
different ways. I would love to come back and do another call today
or tomorrow. Be prepared! When it gets out, things will
be wild and crazy. Make sure your documents are in place, IDs, receipts,
all the rest. The last thing you want is your phone blowing up with
everyone wanting to know that to do!
