Monday, December 2, 2013

Stand Together Now Or You Will End Up Facing the Police State Alone

CGI's oldBuck: Stand Together Now Or You Will End Up Facing the Police State Alone
Posted By: Susoni [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 2-Dec-2013 12:05:24
 
First they tortured a U.S. citizen and gang member …
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a criminal
Then they tortured a U.S. citizen, whistleblower and navy veteran …
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a whistleblower
Then they locked up an attorney for representing accused criminals …
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a defense attorney
Then they arrested a young father walking with his son simply because he told Dick Cheney that he disagreed with his policies …
I remained silent;
I’ve never talked to an important politician
Then they said an entertainer should be killed because she questioned the government’s version of an important historical event …
I remained silent;
I wasn’t an entertainer
Then they arrested people for demanding that Congress hold the President to the Constitution …
I did not speak out;
I’ve never protested in Washington
Then they arrested a man for holding a sign …
I held my tongue;
I’ve never held that kind of sign
Then they broke a minister’s leg because he wanted to speak at a public event …
I said nothing;
I wasn’t a religious leader
Then they shot a student with a taser gun and arrested him for asking a question of a politician at a public event …
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a student
Then they started labeling virtually every innocent and normal behavior as marking Americans as “potential terrorists” …
I remained silent;
I didn’t want to be called a terrorist
Then they threw political dissenters in psychiatric wards …
I remained silent;
I didn’t want to be seen as crazy
Then they declared that they could label U.S. citizens living on U.S. soil as “unlawful enemy combatants” and imprison them indefinitely without access to any attorney …
I remained silent;
I didn’t want to be labeled an enemy
Then they assassinated an American citizen without any court trial
And they killed his son because he should have had a “far more responsible father” …
I remained silent;
I live on American soil
Then they declared that they could assassinate U.S. citizens living on U.S. soil without any due process of law (update) …
I remained silent;
I didn’t want to be on the list
Then they forced down the airplane carrying the president of a sovereign nation, because they were looking for a whistleblower
I remained silent;
I’m not a foreign leader
Then they called for the founder of an independent publisher to be killed by drone
I remained silent;
I don’t want to worry about drone strikes against me
Then they started spying on all Americans, even though top experts say that doesn’t protect us from terrorism
I remained silent;
I didn’t want to call even more attention to myself from the spies
Then they charged the partner of an investigative journalist with terrorism for transporting whistleblowing documents to the journalist regarding illegal NSA spying
I remained silent;
My wife isn’t a journalist
When they came for me,
Everyone was silent;
there was no one left to speak out.
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-11-04/stand-together-now-or-you-will-end-facing-police-state-alone-%E2%80%A6


TNT Tony Monday Conference Call Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

TNT Tony Monday Conference Call Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

12/02/2013


Due to Dinar Recaps Policy of not posting Bashing or Rumors about other Intel Providers or Groups, The TNT Tony Recorded Link will not be posted today.  The Links and the official TNT Notes are available at the TNT forums …Thank You Tony for all your dedication and Intel today ~The Dinar Recaps Team

Unedited Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

CALL STARTING NOW...T = TONY C = CALLER

TONY - Good morning, TNT! How is everybody? Every single person listening, member or not a member - you should all be superfantastic! It's going to be one of those days, based on what I'm hearing from everybody. I have to honestly tell you I was hoping we wouldn't have to do this call. So, I'm going to do this early & quick - tell you what's going on. I hope today is your last day on that job - give it to somebody else!

T - I'm going to tell you what you need to know at this point on how to protect yourself. Then we'll go through some history. You can hang up if you don't want to hear that part. But I'll give you the good news first.
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T - Over this process we've learning a lot about gov'ts, people, etc. You're going to learn some things today and the entire puzzle will come together for you today and you can ask some questions about it.

T - Here's the info. Last nigth we were hoping to do an RV announcement. Bank people were on high alert. It wasn't a 100% call-in, just upper management going over their instructions. They hung around until 2AM this morning thinking it would happen last night. The actual date for the RV - which will be reported in history - is December 1 at 9PM EST. That's the "official date". When do we cash out? Hopefully sometime today. What I can tell you is this: the rates this morning are "live" and ready to go, still just not released yet. They are supposed to release them today. The first time was 30 minutes ago. There is a new time, but I can't tell you. It is scheduled to go. Everybody at every level is saying that today is your day.

T - We're all set. Everybody doesn't need to go today. The rate will maintain for a while so don't panic. The 800#s were expanded to more banks. In the briefing yesterday they were reminded to be as accommodating as they can. Their number 1 goal is to get that money in their bank. They will be as competitive as possible to make that happen when you walk in. That's what the currency exchange personnel are being told. They're actually having a briefing right now. The rates are still high. But they asked me not to talk about the rate - still high double-digits. You'll be flabbergasted.
T - We will see different things. The rate in Iraq is 3.44. It will be the international rate. Our rate is being referred to as a CONTRACT RATE. This is what it will be referred to on Forex. I don't know which rate the exchangers will deal with. But you should have a plan of attack based on which one offers you the best deal. The rates will do one of 2 things: come out and maintain, or come out and go up or down. You should have a safety net based on either way. I have to believe they'll be competitive.

T - We're waiting just like you're waiting. But everybody is saying today is the day. It didn't happen at noon, so whatever is the next time we usually say is the next time. You can talk about it on the boards. It's the same time they always say. Last night they just didn't call in the people. The called in US Marshalls, Homeland Security, local police offers, 3-letter agencies - they were all there and they are all there today. They've never callled them all in like that at the call centers. They're also going to be there at the banks - both obvious and plain clothes. They do not want people coming in acting like idiots, buses, etc. Otherwise, you'll be turned away and be put on the bottom of the list.

 T - They're still wanting everybody processed in the first 5-7 days. The rates will hold for that time and then they will start doing what they're supposed to do. There will be Marshalls in place at the banks, regardless of what somebody else says. We need those people there in place because of the masses.

Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM....

Q - Since it's now back to the IMF, do we need to be concerned about the steps? BIS in the picture anymore? A - We are past all of that. It's between the IMF, UST and the banks. Everybody else has signed off on it. The rates are at the banks. The 800#s are at the banks. The IMF will determine what time is the release. The first time was at 9AM EST this morning. Then moved to 12:30 PM EST to make it fair to those on the west coast. Now we're moved to the next time. Hopefully this is our last call.

 Q - Has everyone gotten their cookies so we can go in and get our crumbs? A - I don't think you can call what you're getting "crumbs." Especially based on what we thought it would be.

Q - If the CBI says all 3-zero notes will be worthless on 1/1/14, what happens to those notes we hold? A - The UST is taking all the notes in and using as oil credits.

Q - Is it true that BoA is being bought out? A - BoA was taken over in a a couple of states but I don't have anymore info on that.

Q - What is the corrrect syntax for the currencies? A - ZWN is the Zimbabwe currency and it's at .22, with the six zeros taken off. That's all I can tell you at this time.

T - Just got a text that Washington Mutual is taking over BoA. Their concern is that accounts were frozen. I don't want to take them out of the equation yet. I'm splitting mine up among several banks.

"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW...C = CALLER | T = TONY

C - Is Maliki gone and what about the 1/1/14 deadline for the 3-zero notes? T - Maliki is not gone and won't be gone. Anybody putting out that we won't see the RV until Maliki is gone is wrong. He is not gone and it looks like it will happen today. The 3-zero notes apply in-country only. Our 30 days are still in place. Today is the 2nd and if it goes today that gives us 30 days.

T - The banks will have affliliate banks. You call the 800#, give them your zip code and they'll find you a local bank. They may not be up to date today or in the first hour. But within the first 4-5 days they should be up to date, definitely within the 30 days.

C - How can we find out if the smaller banks will handle the CE? CAn we call them? T - The only way I know is to call the local bank, call the 800# and let them tell you where. I don't see them having a list of banks in the US.

C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same bank. I would go in with the IQN. Not sur what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.

C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same RATE. I would go in with the IQN. Not sure what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.

T - Their intention is to hold the IQN rate for a certain amount of days while the IQD will come out at market rate. You should only be concerned with the IQN. The other rate (IQD) is for a whole other game you don't want to play.

T - CORRECTION: Washington Federal is taking over Bank of America, not Washington Mutual.

 [patientlytrek] FLPatriot59 Washington Federal to acquire the 51 Bank of America branches in Washington, Idaho, Oregon and New Mexico. Deal set to close 12/6. They are not taking over the entire company.

[FLPatriot59] patientlytrek Good clarification. Thanks!

C - If it's the market rate will you still have to complete the NDA? T - My understanding is that if you exchange any currecny you will sign an NDA. If you wait until after January to avoid the NDA, you won't be doing a currency exchange anymore this way.

C - When will the 30 days start? T - It should start today. Dec. 2 gives us 30 days. Iraq is pulling their 3-zero notes on Jan. 1, so they need this to happen beginning today for the 30 days.

T - This may be our last call. Our next call you'll want the 800#s and rates. I will give you the best I can give before cashout. My understanding is that as soon as it goes live we should get the 800#s immediately because they will be waiting for you to call.

T - It is my hope that you learned things about world economy our govt etc, it is not all good but they try. Some people are greedy but the big picture is that we can prosper and be the country that people want to come to. It will be 10 years before we can write about this, or see the movie. But in 10 years no one will care. I hope that we changed people's character for the better. You will be the ones people in your family and neighborhoods will look up to. Remember what you went through to get here. You'll be funding things and they will ask for your input, leadership and guidance. "With much power comes much responsibility."

T - I got in this knowing that I had already been making my own decisions and sacrificing for a lot of people. That is what leaders do. Being involved in network marketing, owning my own business, sacrificing, etc. I know what that's like. I hope this has been a learning experience. When I got in it was supposed to be for a short period of time. There was a website out there telling people to send $300 and sign up for as a VIP, and they'd send your dinar to Belize. That was my first experience with absolutely big crooks. People were actually sending them $300 over to another country, fly there and hope somebody is standing there waiting for you with your millions. Who does that make sense to?

T - I tried to make that right and tell people and tell them "REALLLY does that make sense?" People are going to come at you like you have no idea. Scammers are getting ready for you. Now that you have the money these people will come at you. I'm telling you what to look for in the future because I've already seen and am aware of what people are planning to do with your email. Knowledge is power! You should NEVER pay money for knowledge. As long as they are doing it the right way if they offer you a legitimate service you should be able to pay that.

[FLPatriot59] TONY IS REVIEWING PTR'S EVENTS, PAYMENT PRACTICIES, ETC. AND WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

[FLPatriot59] NOTE: TONY IS TALKING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCES WITH FORMER SITES. THIS WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

T - I'm just showing you things that have gone on over time...and probably is the last time I have to open your eyes and decide if you will be involved again.

[FLPatriot59] TONY IS NOW SHARING HIS OPINION ABOUT THE "GROUPS" - WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

T - If you think it was bad on other sites and you did not know it, you cannot imagine what's going to happen as you become a multi-millioniare. Months from now things will happen and you'll know you need to be aware of those things. I know that was a whole lot of info and I feel better knowing I did the right thing to open some eyes. You need to be thinking about this afternoon when you got the call with 800#s and what you're going to do.

"LIVE" CALL-IN RESUMING NOW...

C - I talked to several banks and asked how they will keep our money info away from the tellers up front? T - Ask your personal banker or wealth manager. You can have a separate account (a local account) that is separate from your other funds. You will be dealing directly with your PB or WM.

C - Will we still be allowed to CE a $25K note prior to our appointment? T - That is still in place. Depending on how much you have, 2-3 notes, they may be able to cash you out at one time.

C - Should we be concerned about anything happening in Iraq, i.e., budget, seating of ministers, etc.? T - No, it will not. They are scheduling this for TODAY. People are in the bank TODAY. The call I got before this call indicated that is still the goal. Right now that's where we're headed.

C - Do we have to CE with a major bank? T - It can be a M&P bank. Call the 800# and they will give you the affiliate bank to go to in your area.

C - Are the rates stabilized or are they tricking up/down? T - The rates among banks is differing by $10 but those aren't the actual rates.

C - Will you get Okie on the call when you make "the" call? T - Pam and Ray thought that would be cool. But when I get the numbers I can do a call on the CC and get 6,000 people on the call. If we add BlogTalk that will cover another 15,000. What I want to do is give Okie the okay and he will make the announcement. Then we'll post the 800#s ourselves on our forum and on www.tntsuperfantastic.com, .net and in the chat room. I'll be waiting 1-2 hours to cashout to do all of this but I will for you guys first!

C - Can you tell us more accurately when the 30-day window closes? T - No, because I don't know what time. It could go to midnight.

C - Any comments on a post in the Forum from "Judge" (the purpose of the NDA is to control our mouths AND our money, disclosures for anything over $5K, being labeled by HS as a terrorist threat, etcs.). T - So let me get this right: our gov't has gone for 10 years writing banking laws so we could get this money on Monday/Tuesday, deposit millions in our bank account, so we could spend $5K and they could arrest and lock us up? Really?

T - They did all this for the last 10 years, kept renewing 13303, get the rates that high, so they could arrest us when we spend more than $5K on money and investments we made? And this is all in an NDA so they can control us? They already write all the laws. This doesn't make any sense. If you believe any of this nonsense you do not deserve to have any dinar.

C - The DC guys said they wanted to get this done before Black Friday so people could quit their jobs. How has this delay affected this plan? T - People didn't get to quit before Black Friday. Anytime you give 5M people this kind of money it will affect the economy. Did they want this for Black Friday? Yes. Do they still want, by the end of the month, for Christmas, this kind of stimulus? Yes. It still will stimulate the economy this month, even though they missed the flash of Black Friday. They still want this done and that is the driving force.

C - Is there a date since they missed BF? T - I don't know there is a cutoff date next year. Everybody in DC is saying today is the day. The difference is that we (banks) have the 800#s. Major security is in place now at the banks.

C - You were on the phone with 3 letter agencies ...that they weren't going to have the rates go down during the 30 days ...so all would be comfortable about getting the high rate..please comment. T - They want to alleviate some of your stress if you don't get in there the very first day. The rate WILL go down in the 1st 30 days. I just don't know when in that 30 days it will go down. They think they can get 5M people through in the first 5-7 days. The rates will stay high. They don't want people panicking. You don't have to get in the first day. If it takes a couple of day, that's fine. The rates will be steady before the market takes over.

C - Is the rate close to what you said last time? T - On some screens it is. How's that. That's the best I can do. They asked me not to say anymore. Some idiot in NY walked into a bank and said "Tony said..." regarding the rates. Don't do that!

C - There's talk about private placements where you can get offers at the bank through those instead of through retail side? T - I do know there were some private deals being made through some countries. DC is aware of it because they authorized it. It's one of those deals where you have to know somebody.

C - Is the VND holding steady? T - I heard the rate 1.98 for the IQD that is being paid now and I heard other rumors that did not make sense to me. The VNN will probably go down faster that the other rates.

PAM - We got some great info and hopefully Tony will be doing another call today. He'll do a call later by himself because I'll be at the bank.

C = CALLER | P = PAM | T = TONY

C - Does Pam get all the info before you (Tony)? T - Absolutely, yes she does! LOL.

C - Is the email address we give when we call the 800# for our ID at the CE or is that so they can respond to us that way? T - I was told it would be for ID and that at your appointment they would ask for the email address you gave. You can always delete your email address after your appointment. When you call you're dealing with bank people. No worries.

T - This morning I got an email from PTR and it wants my email address and password to "view this document." I wondered if they were sending me a virus and found out others got it too. I sent it forward to another email address and my computer issued warning about it. My banking email will be strictly for banking. My new laptop will be strictly for banking. Nothing else.
C - Back in June we were told there was an in-country RV. Can you explain that? T - That was for contractors and we were supposed to see it in July. Then it became all political and power moves. The did have an in-country RV and they're waiting for it go international, which should be today. There is nothing they need to do for us to see this.

T - I'm down to my last 3 minutes. There's a "Pastor Elroy Miller" who is sending out an emails about me and my background, saying I'm giving high rates so I can steal your dinar. I don't care if he's a pastor or not. That is ignorance and he's an idiot. I have not asked you to partner with me on anything nor have I asked you for anything. What kind of a church leader does that? Some take kindness for weakness and I've tried to be kind. Sometimes you have to call an ignorant ass an ignorant ass. It is what it is.

T - Last night they got hyped up for this like you wouldn't believe. This morning they brought them ALL in. At 5 minutes to 9AM EST the rates were live at the banks. At 12:30 PM EST they were live with an administrative hold. Right now they are bringing to people into the banks to go to work. Security is like we've never seen it at the call centers. Undercover and uniformed police are there now. There are enough days and time before the rates go down for you to be taken care of. That's the message I'm asked to give you. They want this organized and calm. Hopefully it won't be long and we'll be posting the 800#s. That's it for the day. All the news is positive. Everybody is saying today is our day and hopefully it won't go to midnight. Enjoy your day.

END OF CALL.


Benjamin Fulford - December 2, 2013: Heavy duty last minute negotiations continue...

Benjamin Fulford - December 2, 2013: Heavy duty last minute negotiations continue...

Heavy duty last minute negotiations continue, Okinawa, Korea and Sunni/Shia divide remain sticking points.

Based on high level contacts being made to the White Dragon Society, it is clear there is a growing consensus that the old dollar system be used to start a $700 trillion campaign to end poverty and stop environmental production, without impeding the continuation or start-up of alternative financial systems. However, as the world waits impatiently for the campaign to be announced, ongoing high level geopolitical negotiations, with a bit of saber rattling as a back-drop, are continuing to delay implementation, according to multiple high-level sources.
The main sticking points to world peace and the start of a new golden age are now the ancient Shia/Sunni political divide in the Islamic world, Israel and a few unresolved issues in East Asia, notably the Korean Peninsula and the Okinawan archipelago.
In Asia, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has met with Russian President Vladimir Putin four times and the heads of all the ASEAN countries in a campaign to build a coalition to contain China. The Pentagon, worried about continued financing, secretly supports this as it is keeping the war card as its last big negotiation leverage.

The Chinese, for their part, are strong enough now to insist on resolving some historical injustices before they agree to support the $700 trillion campaign. In particular, they resent the fact that all the Islands near China have been taken away from them by superior imperialist navy forces.
The Chinese have a strong card to play, which is to use their vastly superior ground military forces to force the unification of the Korean peninsula and derive the United States of its South Korean tributary vassal state.
The White Dragon Society has made the following suggestion to both sides as a way of breaking the stalemate. First of all return Okinawa to its historical status as an independent kingdom and a neutral meeting point between Japan and China. In such a deal China and Japan would each pay 50% of the costs of US troops there in order to ensure the Islands remain neutral. The Okinawan archipelago could then become a duty free and fun meeting and resting place.
As mentioned before, Northern and Southern Korea could be united by making Kim Jon-un a symbolic emperor of Korea and leaving the Southern Korean families in charge of the economy. In such a deal the newly united Korea might agree to keep US forces in central Korea as a guarantor of Korean independence.

The alternative to agreeing to the above proposals will be the inevitable bankruptcy of the US, an abrupt withdrawal of US forces from the region and subsequent chaos.
Also last week, some unidentified entity calling itself the Bank of New York (but not the Bank of New York, Mellon) has been buying majority stakes in many major Japanese corporations, according to the Black Dragon Society. One US government agency source suspects Goldman Sachs to be behind this but it may also be a cyber-attack on Japan’s economic infrastructure. The Japanese authorities have been advised to make sure human beings carrying physical stock certificates be produced and if the “Bank of New York” cannot do that, then the systems at the Tokyo Stock Exchange may have to be temporarily shut down.
Also, two missile launchers were found outside the US Yokota airbase in Tokyo last week. This was a warning by the gnostic Illuminati that they will destroy the Kanto plain with a nuclear weapon hidden in a tunnel system near the base unless the new financial system is announced, according to a gnostic illuminati grandmaster.
The P2 Freemason lodge honcho Marco Di Mauro also made some statements last week that were straight out of the X-files. He said that 24 “encantadores,” or magicians, had started work on building a new continent in the South Pacific. Normally, I would not report such statements but after he told me this, news reports appeared saying Mount Etna in Italy was blowing smoke rings and that 35 volcanoes around the Pacific rim had started erupting simultaneously.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507799/Shes-smoking-Mount-Etna-puffs-dozens-rings-measuring-hundreds-feet-spews-molten-lava.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/volcano-indonesia-one-35-currently-erupting-volcanoes-heres-where-they-are-map-1486866
This could be some sort of propaganda but it is clear the Vatican and the P2 still have a lot of real geopolitical influence. Last week Vladimir Putin met with Pope Francis to discuss the Middle East. Putin now has real influence on the ground in the Middle East while the Pope has religious influence. According to news reports, they were discussing ways to ensure peace in that region.

The White Dragon Society has suggested that the only way to really calm the region down would be for the world as a whole to force the Sunni and Shia branches of Islam to resolve their ancient split by selecting a Caliph. In such a scenario, as suggested before, Israel could become a Jewish autonomous zone in the region. However, once the Jews learn how much they have been lied to and brainwashed by their own leaders, many may well decide to return to their ancestral European homes.
Meanwhile, back in the US, we are getting credible reports that US special forces are getting ready to move on Washington.
http://www.wikiarmy.com/index.php/15-breaking-news/63-seal-commander-says-special-operations-assault-on-obama-has-begun
With support for Congress running at 6% and so many people wondering why mass arrests have not taken place, we sure hope it is true this time. To help compile the list of who to arrest, I will conclude this week’s report with an open letter to Jim Stone of Jim Stone freelance, a genuine NSA whistleblower who has done so much to alert the world about the Fukushima mass murder and terror war crime attack.
Mr. Stone,
First of all, thanks for your courageous and ground breaking work on uncovering the Fukushima mass murder and terror operation. I am writing this e-mail to provide you with forensic evidence that I have gathered on what the 311 tsunami attack was about and exactly who was involved.
My sources for what I am about to write include Japanese military intelligence, former Prime Minister Naoto Kan (whom I have known personally for many years), members of the crew that smuggled the nuclear weapons used in the attack into Japan, members of both the French and British branches of the Rothschild family, senior CIA agents and a member of the team that actually drilled the nuclear weapons into the seabed before the 311 attack.
The first thing you need to know is that the attack was planned many years before it happened. The Japanese business magazine Zaikai Tembo, citing a CIA report, wrote in February of 2007 that the US had decided that Japan was getting too much of its energy from nuclear power and that if that trend continued, Japan would no longer be dependent on US controlled oil and thus would no longer have to obey the US. The conclusion of the report was that the best way to ensure Japan remained a colony would be to destroy the Tokyo Electric Power company, the people who run the Fukushima plant.
Senator J. Rockefeller, whose family controls (through foundations) General Electric, the manufacturers of the plant, was deeply involved in this operation. As a preliminary to destroying Japan’s nuclear power generation capability, Westinghouse and General Electric sold their nuclear power plant manufacturing businesses to Toshiba and Hitachi. This was insider trading at the highest level and Hitachi and Toshiba should sue.
The ongoing attempt in recent years by an Asian/Western secret society to wrest control of global finance from Western oligarch families is a bigger back-ground to the Fukushima sub-plot.
For example, Democratic Party of Japan Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa was asked at a G7 meeting in 2009 to hand over $100 billion to the cabal. He answered that he would raise the money by selling $100 billion worth of US Treasury bonds. He was going to say this at the press conference that followed the G7 meeting, so he was drugged to prevent him from doing so. Later, when he returned to Japan, he was murdered by CIA death squads.
Getting back to Fukushima, the refusal of the Japanese Democratic Party and authorities to hand over any real hard currency to the Western Oligarch families resulted in their decision to go ahead with the Fukushima operation as a way of intimidating the Japanese once again into surrender and obedience.

One key source of mine, who has variously gone by the names of Richard Sorge, Alexander Romanov, etc., was part of a multi-agency Western ring involved in smuggling drugs into Japan. I have confirmed through a long term acquaintance by the name of Steve McClure, a supposed music journalist, that Richard Sorge was his long term supplier of drugs. He claims to have been recruited into the Illuminati by former Chess champion Bobby Fischer.
In any case, Sorge told me that he was summoned to Pattaya, Thailand, by a member of the British Special Air Service, a South African going by the name of Spencer and told to bring 70 kilograms of “thai stick” Marijuana, heavily laced with mind destroying chemicals and approach me. He was told to tell me to introduce the yakuza to him or else I would be killed. The Yakuza told me it was a trap and to keep away from it, which I did. Sorge also told me that when he was in Thailand, he was shown a 700 kiloton nuclear missile that was stolen from the sunken Russian submarine the Kursk. This missile was smuggled into Japan together with the drugs.
The man overseeing the smuggling operation was a former Hong Kong deputy police commissioner by the name of Stephens, according to Sorge and Spencer. The man in overall operational control of this operation against Japan was General Richard Meyers, according to CIA and other sources.
Based in subsequent interviews with members of Pentagon military intelligence and MI5, the route taken by the missile to Japan has been identified. It was part of a batch of four nuclear missiles stolen from the Kursk by Nazi underground forces who took them to their submarine base in the Atlantic Island of Sao Tome, according to MI5. From there, it was taken to another submarine base in New Guinea, according to Pentagon Military intelligence.

From there it was taken to the Philippines Yatch club where Stevens’ crew then took it by yacht to a remote island on the Okinawan archipelago. From there it was transported by fishing boat to the port of Kyushu. From Kyushu, the missile was taken by van to a property owned by former Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone in Hi No De Cho, in Western Tokyo. From there it was taken to the North Korean Citizen’s organization headquarters near the Yasukuni shrine, according to Sorge.
Sorge risked his life and has survived multiple murder attempts because he attempted to warn the Japanese authorities about the impending nuclear terror attack. He told them the missile was at Nakasone’s property and he told me as well. The Japanese authorities ignored our warnings. Later we again told them the missile was located at the North Korean headquarters in Japan.
For his efforts, Sorge was arrested by plain clothes police who ignored his warnings about impending nuclear terror and instead asked him to testify falsely that I was a drug dealer.
A South African/British agent by the name of Michael Meiring, who had both legs blown off by a bomb he said was set by George Herbert Walker Bush Senior also began contacting me around this time. He came to me under the name of Dr. Michael Van de Meer and he showed me a bullet proof attaché case, 7 passports and an Uzi machine-gun. Dr. Van de Meer told me that Tony Blair had bragged I would be arrested on drug charges.
In any case, Japanese authorities failed to react to our warnings and the bomb was loaded onto the deep sea drilling ship Chikyu. Local news reports place the Chikyu drilling into the seabed off-shore from Sendai in the months before the March 11, 2011 Tsunami and nuclear terror attack against Japan.
Furthermore, multiple witnesses have come forth to testify that the Prime Minister Naoto Kan was seen inside the Japan Freemason headquarters building near Tokyo tower on the day before the 311 attack. He was being shown a map of Japan missing the Tohoku region where the tsunami it.
The Israeli company Magna BSP was in charge of security at the Fukushima nuclear plant at the time. A Miyagi prefectural government official says employees of this company loaded plutonium into the plant against his will in the months before 311.
Immediately after the tsunami and nuclear terror attack began, Prime Minister Naoto Kan was asked to order the evacuation of 40 million people from the Kanto plain, Kan said during a press conference at the Foreign Correspondent’s Club of Japan.
He also received a phone call from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the day after the attack demanding that he sign over ownership of all Japanese government holdings of US government bonds to cabal oligarchs, which he did, according to Japanese military intelligence.
Following the attacks, a member of the Japanese self-defense forces who was involved in breaking up the nuclear bomb from the Kursk into several smaller bombs and drilling them into the seabed, showed up at the Tachikawa Christian church run by Pastor Paolo Izumi asking for protection. He said that 14 of his colleagues who were involved in the drilling operation, not understanding the purpose of what they were doing, had been murdered in order to silence them and that he feared for his life. The man was sheltered by the church and is now in the witness protection program.
After the 311 attack, this writer went to South Korea at the invitation of Dr. Van de Meer. While in Korea he was told the Rothschild family had planned the attack because they wanted to force 40 million Japanese refugees to take shelter in North and South Korea. The Rothschild family intended to move the base of their Asian operations from Tokyo to a planned new special economic zone in Korea, he said. He knew in advance of the 311 attack and looked deeply ashamed when he admitted he did not warn me about it.
Following the 311 attack, un-marked planes were spotted dumping radio-active industrial waste containing cesium, according to a Japanese gangster whose gang was sub-contracting for the CIA and Mossad around Fukushima.
The massive propaganda fear campaign following the 311 attack can be traced to Mossad, the Pentagon and the CIA.
In addition to the people named above, some of the individuals involved in this mass murder and fear propaganda campaign include Kenneth Curtis, the head of CIA Japan, Michael Green, the head of Mossad Japan and Richard Armitage.
Other people involved in this mass murder campaign include George Bush Sr. and Jr., Michael Chertoff, James Baker, Paul Wolfowitz, Senator J. Rockefeller, Michael Hayden, Guy de Rothschild, Evelyn de Rothschild, Peter Hans Kolvenbach, former Pope Maledict, and others yet to be named.


Original Source: benjaminfulford.net

Source: http://hipknowsys.blogspot.com/2013/12/benjamin-fulford-december-2-2013-heavy.html


Millionday & People Invested Roundtable Part 3 of 3

Millionday & People Invested Roundtable  Part 3 of 3

12/02/2013

[belabun] that is a bill that is being presented by WHAT IS H.R. 77 113th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 77 IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 3, 2013 Mr. Broun of Georgia introduced the following bill;

which was referred to the Committee on Financial Services, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means and the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned continued

[winone] To be true i meant

[millionday] belabun yes it is

[Mangorancher] if we are to have 30 days to cash in it would mean either today or tomorrow based on the Dec 31st date

[Melba] is that saying no taxes
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[LBnFL] Can't imagine O actually passing ANY bill that would eliminate ANY tax.

[lorijeanmarshall] millionday well that is interesting

      [millionday] it is a bill of repeal however and has not been answered but is dated to become effective at the end of the year but we do not have anything thtat tells us it was passed so ask a professional

    [millionday] lorijeanmarshall very

    [MatCauthon] Did it get passed though

    [Smokey Mtn. Dinar] And what I read said that our House and Senate have already voted and Passed this, and that the President has already signed it. I'm a little skeptical about that part, because I feel we would have heard about it before now, if that was the case.

    [letsroll] could somebody from Ga. find out if Mr. Broun holds IQD please ... lol

    [millionday] i have been told it has not been passed

    [Mangorancher] LBnFL if you read it anything before Dec 31 2013 can be taxed or that is how I read it

 [belabun] PLEASE people, you can check to see if passed, ----- so do some of your homework, OK?

    [lorijeanmarshall] millionday Maybe they will RV on the first and then we WONT have to pay taxes on it. I can wait till the 1st for that. LOL

    B][millionday] now see if this had been passed we could keep smiling but wipe it off

    [millionday] lol

    [millionday] letsroll lol

       [MatCauthon] Should be in the congressional record if passed

    [belabun] MatCauthon yes, they need to look for themselves, rather than dinarrecaps

    [millionday] Hr77 has not been passed is what i am told

    [millionday] MatCauthon thats right and it shows it has not gone through yet

    [millionday] belabun not when they have me --- i will look for them lol

    [winone] millionday that's the way i took it too

[Smokey Mtn. Dinar] belabun Not found on recaps

    [Smokey Mtn. Dinar] I saw it some where else

    [belabun] the article is on recaps, was posted there earlier,

    [LBnFL] So we DON'T want an RV before Jan 1...!

    [millionday] so i guess we have to stop smiling about maybe getting out of owing --- we should know better look where we live

    [belabun] and orignally on Rense --

    [millionday] we are going to owe

    [winone] millionday is the site that it is posted on legit?

    [belabun] Iam going to be TICKLED TO DEATH TO PAY TAXES --- never in my life would I have had anything close to what this will eventually bring to me.

    [millionday] belabun i have never been to that site

[Smokey Mtn. Dinar] True. Our government is going to tax us every chance they get!

    [Mangorancher] It looks like HR77 was introduced way back in January of this year... am I missing something as why it is important now?

    [belabun] Rense has lots of "stuff" hubby looked at it, some good, some ?, and just some ------

    [mdglow] Smokey Mtn. Dinar yes they are !

    [millionday] winone i will check it out further

    [belabun] Mangorancher was sent to me this a.m. as had been posted on recaps, originally on rense

    [winone] millionday THANK YOU

    [millionday] i dont know yet have to check the site owner ect

    [millionday] etc

    [millionday] lets get back to news

 [millionday] Suffering of the Iraqi street of the scarcity of the currency of a small category (250, 500 and 1000) dinars, and found it undamaged and Mthtrh, and became citizens upset of used and especially the owners of taxis and commercial markets,

but they accepted the deal out to preserve the continuation of their work flow. attributed the number of economists reason for the scarcity of Currency with the small category and ease of damage to the poor quality of paper used and the lack of printing works, stressing that the central bank discussed the possibility of issuing coins of small denominations to be a substitute for paper.

    [millionday] said a member of the committee of economy and investment MP / coalition in Iraq / Nora Albjara, the scarcity and damage Currency with the small category due to the weakness of its value deliberative and the poor quality of the paper used to print.

added Albjara that the central bank will Basaddaramlh metal groups small alternative paper, noting that the new currency will be the quality is good and easy to handle and meet the needs of citizens. will dispense paper currency damaged gradually, adding that the currency small is of great significance in the market by re-remaining amount

[millionday] so here they are talking about the new currency and it is made well and the citizens are having a hard time with the large currency off the streets

    [millionday] look at this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>

    [millionday] denied Albjara: to be the scarcity of the currency of the small category associated with higher rates, asserting that Artaf prices due to the greed of the merchants and the lack of goods in the market and exploited by others.

For his part, member of the Economic Commission MP / National Alliance / Ibrahim stirrup, that the currency of a small category does not have great value in trading and buying and selling, so it has been dispensed with and became its presence virtually non-existent in market.

added stirrup central bank will issue coins, metal, alternative damaged after a process of deletion of zeros in the next parliamentary session, which Tattabramlah reform administrative currency cash.

    [millionday] note -- the next session is dec 15th

    [lorijeanmarshall] millionday Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

[letsroll] sweet

    [millionday] look at this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    [millionday] said: that the central bank is printing the currency of a small class, but the lack of value have vanished on the market, being a Ataatlaúm with the size requirements of the citizens. For his part, banking expert Majid picture, that restructuring the currency and delete the zeros calls to increase the categories of the nominal value of the few, and issued coin to ease in trading and non-damaging, indicating that small groups can also lead to facilitate the process of policy-making price and reduce the cost of trading operations.

    [Melba] millionday how can u change the value of a metal coin

    [millionday] note -- because the prices has not changed yet

    [millionday] so they are bringing out the small denoms and coins -- love it

    [lorijeanmarshall] millionday It can't be this easy.... what is the catch?

    [lorijeanmarshall] LOL

    [millionday] they dont use the coins right now hun  coins are a new thing only used with low prices for change

[millionday] lorijeanmarshall whooop whooop

    [millionday] thought i would end with a bang today   lol

    millionday] wow i am so ready to see that -- whoop whooop

    [millionday] and the date of parliament dated return in dec 15th   i hope that last one gave you all hope

    [cookie2] millionday Hope is just the start! : )  That is very very exciting !!

    [millionday] cookie2 i agree hun  love that news   and from cbi -- whooop whoooop

    [millionday] add this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://gtad.wto.org/ben_ ··· tyID=174

    [millionday] see everyone later -- thanks so much for taking part -- you know i love that for roundtable

    [millionday] see you at newstime      730 est

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Tonys Call 12/2

TONY - Good morning, TNT! How is everybody? Every single person listening, member or not a member - you should all be superfantastic! It's going to be one of those days, based on what I'm hearing from everybody. I have to honestly tell you I was hoping we wouldn't have to do this call. So, I'm going to do this early & quick - tell you what's going on. I hope today is your last day on that job - give it to somebody else!

T - I'm going to tell you what you need to know at this point on how to protect yourself. Then we'll go through some history. You can hang up if you don't want to hear that part. But I'll give you the good news first.
T - Over this process we've learning a lot about gov'ts, people, etc. You're going to learn some things today and the entire puzzle will come together for you today and you can ask some questions about it.

T - Here's the info. Last nigth we were hoping to do an RV announcement. Bank people were on high alert. It wasn't a 100% call-in, just upper management going over their instructions. They hung around until 2AM this morning thinking it would happen last night. The actual date for the RV - which will be reported in history - is December 1 at 9PM EST. That's the "official date". When do we cash out? Hopefully sometime today. What I can tell you is this: the rates this morning are "live" and ready to go, still just not released yet. They are supposed to release them today. The first time was 30 minutes ago. There is a new time, but I can't tell you. It is scheduled to go. Everybody at every level is saying that today is your day.

T - We're all set. Everybody doesn't need to go today. The rate will maintain for a while so don't panic. The 800#s were expanded to more banks. In the briefing yesterday they were reminded to be as accommodating as they can. Their number 1 goal is to get that money in their bank. They will be as competitive as possible to make that happen when you walk in. That's what the currency exchange personnel are being told. They're actually having a briefing right now. The rates are still high. But they asked me not to talk about the rate - still high double-digits. You'll be flabbergasted.

T - We will see different things. The rate in Iraq is 3.44. It will be the international rate. Our rate is being referred to as a CONTRACT RATE. This is what it will be referred to on Forex. I don't know which rate the exchangers will deal with. But you should have a plan of attack based on which one offers you the best deal. The rates will do one of 2 things: come out and maintain, or come out and go up or down. You should have a safety net based on either way. I have to believe they'll be competitive.

T - We're waiting just like you're waiting. But everybody is saying today is the day. It didn't happen at noon, so whatever is the next time we usually say is the next time. You can talk about it on the boards. It's the same time they always say. Last night they just didn't call in the people. The called in US Marshalls, Homeland Security, local police offers, 3-letter agencies - they were all there and they are all there today. They've never callled them all in like that at the call centers. They're also going to be there at the banks - both obvious and plain clothes. They do not want people coming in acting like idiots, buses, etc. Otherwise, you'll be turned away and be put on the bottom of the list.

 T - They're still wanting everybody processed in the first 5-7 days. The rates will hold for that time and then they will start doing what they're supposed to do. There will be Marshalls in place at the banks, regardless of what somebody else says. We need those people there in place because of the masses.

Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM....

Q - Since it's now back to the IMF, do we need to be concerned about the steps? BIS in the picture anymore? A - We are past all of that. It's between the IMF, UST and the banks. Everybody else has signed off on it. The rates are at the banks. The 800#s are at the banks. The IMF will determine what time is the release. The first time was at 9AM EST this morning. Then moved to 12:30 PM EST to make it fair to those on the west coast. Now we're moved to the next time. Hopefully this is our last call.

 Q - Has everyone gotten their cookies so we can go in and get our crumbs? A - I don't think you can call what you're getting "crumbs." Especially based on what we thought it would be.

Q - If the CBI says all 3-zero notes will be worthless on 1/1/14, what happens to those notes we hold? A - The UST is taking all the notes in and using as oil credits.

Q - Is it true that BoA is being bought out? A - BoA was taken over in a a couple of states but I don't have anymore info on that.

Q - What is the corrrect syntax for the currencies? A - ZWN is the Zimbabwe currency and it's at .22, with the six zeros taken off. That's all I can tell you at this time.

T - Just got a text that Washington Mutual is taking over BoA. Their concern is that accounts were frozen. I don't want to take them out of the equation yet. I'm splitting mine up among several banks.

"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW...C = CALLER | T = TONY

C - Is Maliki gone and what about the 1/1/14 deadline for the 3-zero notes? T - Maliki is not gone and won't be gone. Anybody putting out that we won't see the RV until Maliki is gone is wrong. He is not gone and it looks like it will happen today. The 3-zero notes apply in-country only. Our 30 days are still in place. Today is the 2nd and if it goes today that gives us 30 days.

T - The banks will have affliliate banks. You call the 800#, give them your zip code and they'll find you a local bank. They may not be up to date today or in the first hour. But within the first 4-5 days they should be up to date, definitely within the 30 days.

C - How can we find out if the smaller banks will handle the CE? CAn we call them? T - The only way I know is to call the local bank, call the 800# and let them tell you where. I don't see them having a list of banks in the US.

C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same bank. I would go in with the IQN. Not sur what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.

C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same RATE. I would go in with the IQN. Not sure what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.

T - Their intention is to hold the IQN rate for a certain amount of days while the IQD will come out at market rate. You should only be concerned with the IQN. The other rate (IQD) is for a whole other game you don't want to play.

T - CORRECTION: Washington Federal is taking over Bank of America, not Washington Mutual.

 [patientlytrek] FLPatriot59 Washington Federal to acquire the 51 Bank of America branches in Washington, Idaho, Oregon and New Mexico. Deal set to close 12/6. They are not taking over the entire company.

[FLPatriot59] patientlytrek Good clarification. Thanks!

C - If it's the market rate will you still have to complete the NDA? T - My understanding is that if you exchange any currecny you will sign an NDA. If you wait until after January to avoid the NDA, you won't be doing a currency exchange anymore this way.

C - When will the 30 days start? T - It should start today. Dec. 2 gives us 30 days. Iraq is pulling their 3-zero notes on Jan. 1, so they need this to happen beginning today for the 30 days.

T - This may be our last call. Our next call you'll want the 800#s and rates. I will give you the best I can give before cashout. My understanding is that as soon as it goes live we should get the 800#s immediately because they will be waiting for you to call.

T - It is my hope that you learned things about world economy our govt etc, it is not all good but they try. Some people are greedy but the big picture is that we can prosper and be the country that people want to come to. It will be 10 years before we can write about this, or see the movie. But in 10 years no one will care. I hope that we changed people's character for the better. You will be the ones people in your family and neighborhoods will look up to. Remember what you went through to get here. You'll be funding things and they will ask for your input, leadership and guidance. "With much power comes much responsibility."

T - I got in this knowing that I had already been making my own decisions and sacrificing for a lot of people. That is what leaders do. Being involved in network marketing, owning my own business, sacrificing, etc. I know what that's like. I hope this has been a learning experience. When I got in it was supposed to be for a short period of time. There was a website out there telling people to send $300 and sign up for as a VIP, and they'd send your dinar to Belize. That was my first experience with absolutely big crooks. People were actually sending them $300 over to another country, fly there and hope somebody is standing there waiting for you with your millions. Who does that make sense to?

T - I tried to make that right and tell people and tell them "REALLLY does that make sense?" People are going to come at you like you have no idea. Scammers are getting ready for you. Now that you have the money these people will come at you. I'm telling you what to look for in the future because I've already seen and am aware of what people are planning to do with your email. Knowledge is power! You should NEVER pay money for knowledge. As long as they are doing it the right way if they offer you a legitimate service you should be able to pay that.

[FLPatriot59] TONY IS REVIEWING PTR'S EVENTS, PAYMENT PRACTICIES, ETC. AND WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

[FLPatriot59] NOTE: TONY IS TALKING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCES WITH FORMER SITES. THIS WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

T - I'm just showing you things that have gone on over time...and probably is the last time I have to open your eyes and decide if you will be involved again.

[FLPatriot59] TONY IS NOW SHARING HIS OPINION ABOUT THE "GROUPS" - WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.

T - If you think it was bad on other sites and you did not know it, you cannot imagine what's going to happen as you become a multi-millioniare. Months from now things will happen and you'll know you need to be aware of those things. I know that was a whole lot of info and I feel better knowing I did the right thing to open some eyes. You need to be thinking about this afternoon when you got the call with 800#s and what you're going to do.

"LIVE" CALL-IN RESUMING NOW...

C - I talked to several banks and asked how they will keep our money info away from the tellers up front? T - Ask your personal banker or wealth manager. You can have a separate account (a local account) that is separate from your other funds. You will be dealing directly with your PB or WM.

C - Will we still be allowed to CE a $25K note prior to our appointment? T - That is still in place. Depending on how much you have, 2-3 notes, they may be able to cash you out at one time.

C - Should we be concerned about anything happening in Iraq, i.e., budget, seating of ministers, etc.? T - No, it will not. They are scheduling this for TODAY. People are in the bank TODAY. The call I got before this call indicated that is still the goal. Right now that's where we're headed.

C - Do we have to CE with a major bank? T - It can be a M&P bank. Call the 800# and they will give you the affiliate bank to go to in your area.

C - Are the rates stabilized or are they tricking up/down? T - The rates among banks is differing by $10 but those aren't the actual rates.

C - Will you get Okie on the call when you make "the" call? T - Pam and Ray thought that would be cool. But when I get the numbers I can do a call on the CC and get 6,000 people on the call. If we add BlogTalk that will cover another 15,000. What I want to do is give Okie the okay and he will make the announcement. Then we'll post the 800#s ourselves on our forum and on www.tntsuperfantastic.com, .net and in the chat room. I'll be waiting 1-2 hours to cashout to do all of this but I will for you guys first!

C - Can you tell us more accurately when the 30-day window closes? T - No, because I don't know what time. It could go to midnight.

C - Any comments on a post in the Forum from "Judge" (the purpose of the NDA is to control our mouths AND our money, disclosures for anything over $5K, being labeled by HS as a terrorist threat, etcs.). T - So let me get this right: our gov't has gone for 10 years writing banking laws so we could get this money on Monday/Tuesday, deposit millions in our bank account, so we could spend $5K and they could arrest and lock us up? Really?

T - They did all this for the last 10 years, kept renewing 13303, get the rates that high, so they could arrest us when we spend more than $5K on money and investments we made? And this is all in an NDA so they can control us? They already write all the laws. This doesn't make any sense. If you believe any of this nonsense you do not deserve to have any dinar.

C - The DC guys said they wanted to get this done before Black Friday so people could quit their jobs. How has this delay affected this plan? T - People didn't get to quit before Black Friday. Anytime you give 5M people this kind of money it will affect the economy. Did they want this for Black Friday? Yes. Do they still want, by the end of the month, for Christmas, this kind of stimulus? Yes. It still will stimulate the economy this month, even though they missed the flash of Black Friday. They still want this done and that is the driving force.

C - Is there a date since they missed BF? T - I don't know there is a cutoff date next year. Everybody in DC is saying today is the day. The difference is that we (banks) have the 800#s. Major security is in place now at the banks.

C - You were on the phone with 3 letter agencies ...that they weren't going to have the rates go down during the 30 days ...so all would be comfortable about getting the high rate..please comment. T - They want to alleviate some of your stress if you don't get in there the very first day. The rate WILL go down in the 1st 30 days. I just don't know when in that 30 days it will go down. They think they can get 5M people through in the first 5-7 days. The rates will stay high. They don't want people panicking. You don't have to get in the first day. If it takes a couple of day, that's fine. The rates will be steady before the market takes over.

C - Is the rate close to what you said last time? T - On some screens it is. How's that. That's the best I can do. They asked me not to say anymore. Some idiot in NY walked into a bank and said "Tony said..." regarding the rates. Don't do that!

C - There's talk about private placements where you can get offers at the bank through those instead of through retail side? T - I do know there were some private deals being made through some countries. DC is aware of it because they authorized it. It's one of those deals where you have to know somebody.

C - Is the VND holding steady? T - I heard the rate 1.98 for the IQD that is being paid now and I heard other rumors that did not make sense to me. The VNN will probably go down faster that the other rates.

PAM - We got some great info and hopefully Tony will be doing another call today. He'll do a call later by himself because I'll be at the bank.

C = CALLER | P = PAM | T = TONY

C - Does Pam get all the info before you (Tony)? T - Absolutely, yes she does! LOL.

C - Is the email address we give when we call the 800# for our ID at the CE or is that so they can respond to us that way? T - I was told it would be for ID and that at your appointment they would ask for the email address you gave. You can always delete your email address after your appointment. When you call you're dealing with bank people. No worries.

T - This morning I got an email from PTR and it wants my email address and password to "view this document." I wondered if they were sending me a virus and found out others got it too. I sent it forward to another email address and my computer issued warning about it. My banking email will be strictly for banking. My new laptop will be strictly for banking. Nothing else.
C - Back in June we were told there was an in-country RV. Can you explain that? T - That was for contractors and we were supposed to see it in July. Then it became all political and power moves. The did have an in-country RV and they're waiting for it go international, which should be today. There is nothing they need to do for us to see this.

T - I'm down to my last 3 minutes. There's a "Pastor Elroy Miller" who is sending out an emails about me and my background, saying I'm giving high rates so I can steal your dinar. I don't care if he's a pastor or not. That is ignorance and he's an idiot. I have not asked you to partner with me on anything nor have I asked you for anything. What kind of a church leader does that? Some take kindness for weakness and I've tried to be kind. Sometimes you have to call an ignorant ass an ignorant ass. It is what it is.

T - Last night they got hyped up for this like you wouldn't believe. This morning they brought them ALL in. At 5 minutes to 9AM EST the rates were live at the banks. At 12:30 PM EST they were live with an administrative hold. Right now they are bringing to people into the banks to go to work. Security is like we've never seen it at the call centers. Undercover and uniformed police are there now. There are enough days and time before the rates go down for you to be taken care of. That's the message I'm asked to give you. They want this organized and calm. Hopefully it won't be long and we'll be posting the 800#s. That's it for the day. All the news is positive. Everybody is saying today is our day and hopefully it won't go to midnight. Enjoy your day.


News, Rumors, and Opinions in Dinarland Monday AM

12/02/2013
 
TNT:

Mxxxxxx x wrote Dec 02nd @05:39am: just got a call from my brother-law from Wells Fargo Currency Exchange and he said be ready in four hours. thats at 12:30 pm est. He's the bank president

He said everyones ready at Wells Fargo....Tony was right...God Bless all of us

Don’t run to the banks...you have to have an appt....we are being blessed

he just told me the time only....don't know anything else

He's been waiting for news and called as soon as he got it. He has the word to be ready at 12:30 pm EST. thats ready at 12:30 pm...he knows people won't be in at that time till the 800 #s are released.

He said he'll only say something when it happens......also he 's not cashing in early because he thinks the rate is going to go up as the day goes on
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lavender:   I think this is going to happen when we least expect it and then our biggest problem will be trying not to injure ourselves for jumping for joy

[buckwheat] It would greatly simplify things if the US govt. cut off the currency exchange from the GCR at the end of the year. I don't see how exchanging in 2014 could be a part of any plan they have for all of us investors. I firmly believe that today is a high probability of the activation. That's my story & I'm sticking to it lol
[gnosis] The Michael D bank president in law story, though just another bank story might make sense. Rv goes live on the screens 12:30, then Tony and Oakie announce it to the throngs of dinarians on the call at 1. EST. Today could really be superfantastic!

[musiclady] Did anyone happen to read mt goat's post?/ i did she's saying thursday thru sunday of this week. Hope sooner than later!!!

[sunny] Record crowds over weekend, but spending declined   http://news.yahoo.com/record-crowds-over-weekend-spending-210800981.html

[sunny] *** Over the four days, spending fell an estimated 2.9 percent to $57.4 billion. 

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I4U:

[Digs] “Lost time is never found again.” – Benjamin Franklin

[Papa Bear] Ok here we go…BE Still for a while and praise god for his favor, his grace and his awesomeness. God is able to do the impossible and is always near. He loves us unconditionally.

 [Papa Bear] landons nana Before Dec 31 IMHO

[sagefemme] i guess i need to know if there is really a back door of 31st for wto and iraq

[landons nana] sagefemme he said before Dec 31 IMHO

 [goin4broke] sagefemme every day is a back door as NONE of the back door dates mean anything!!!JMO

[sagefemme] goin4broke thank you for responding

[Papa Bear] sagefemme No back door. No one wants to wait that long but only the Lord knows

[kyf58] Papa Bear Good Morning to you! Q: If this does not show until 12/31 and Iraqi drops the 3 zeros on 1/1/14, would our Iraqi currency be valid? I am afraid if they do that, it will not. People that would benefit would be the ones that have taken their currency & have a IOU so to speak. Thanks!!!!!

[Papa Bear] kyf58 Fear is a horrible element which is often feed to bring confusion.

[goin4broke] Papa Bear I say all need to quit listening to Gurus as they haven't been correct once. Every back wall, has to happen today has been blown right through. I mean we're almost 2014 and I've heard for a solid three years everyday and bad intel. JMO

[Papa Bear] goin4broke Some people need Gurus because they arent as strong as you. Remember that and give those folks room so they can continue fight

 [kyf58] Papa Bear Not trying to bring fear to anyone, just trying to see the facts clearly as this keeps moving further out. Thanks and do you think that is a possibility? Appreicate your response!

[sagefemme] kyf58 papa bear believes it will happen before that....

[Papa Bear] kyf58 I know your not u are a good soul.

 [kyf58] sagefemme Thanks for sharing your concern, we are one the same page! OH, thanks!

[Papa Bear] Folks look back on your book of progress on this RV and GCR path we have been on. Many huge accomplishments and obstacles have been overcome. I’m sounding like goat now so Ill let u refect on that

[cain321] Papa Bear. Do you think there is a lot more to be accomplished before we RV?

[Papa Bear] cain321 Many particpant countries all wanting to get a best of deals for themselves. But ask yourself WHOSE children paid the price for Iraq freedom

[sagefemme] Papa Bear most of the folks in iraq lost there homes to war...... we need to remember those who continue to suffer there.... killings are common place now

[Papa Bear] sagefemme M not as big of a player as was before. He is still trying to effect yet but is walking a tight rope

[sagefemme] belive me they are not free people we need to stand in the gap for them and pray

 [sagefemme] Papa Bear true but he still rules there

[Jamison] The goverment of Iraq is making a ton of progress on moving forward, it will not be written for all to see when it will RV, it will be masked, we get bits and pieces of their completed task, at it is not known exactly how the IMF uses its rules to roll things out. We are not entitled to know when

[burk50] Hello ,my understanding Iraq invited to join WTO by end of Dec ,must have International currency 30days prior ,IMO

[sagefemme] burk50 wow now that is good news for us

 [Jamison] burk50 here are the rules you can research for yourself   http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/acc_e/cbt_course_e/c5s2p2_e.htm

[Jamison] burk50 In those rules, I have not been able to find a 30 day requirement

[burk50] Thx Jamison ,just what I heard ,so I believe today's our day starting the 30 days for us imo

[Papa Bear] Jamison Would u correct me or agree with me when I say just email from WF?

 [Jamison] Papa Bear The group email will come from the WF servor by KCMANA

[Jamison] It will be known within minutes of it starting , and wileymorgan said he would come on to inform people asap when they were started

[Jamison] The reason emails were setup was so that everybody would know that it was legit, instead of getting a post on a blog or chat site some 800 number that you hope is calling where you want

[Papa Bear] Folks u shouldnt ask for more than that

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jdtolle » December 2nd, 2013, .Build great strength
Don’t run from failure or hide from failure or avoid the possibility of failure. Use failure to improve.

If you’re not willing to fail, you won’t be able to grow. To become stronger and more capable, you must push yourself beyond what you already know you can do.

It is only by lifting more weight than you’ve lifted before that you strengthen your muscles. It is by experiencing failure that you discover new ways to succeed.

Failure and disappointment can serve as powerful steps along the path to magnificent achievement. In dealing with the difficult times, you build great strength with which to create good, meaningful, satisfying and fulfilling value in your world.

Success means nothing if it is not earned. Failure is an important part of earning success.

The road to achievement will constantly test you. Be willing to take those tests, and to work through those tests, and achievement is yours.

— Ralph Marston

May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day


NEW TROUBLE AT US MARS PRIVATE SHOW - INDIA'S "AVERAGE CAR SIZE PAYLOAD" ON IT'S WAY

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NEW TROUBLE AT US MARS PRIVATE SHOW - INDIA'S "AVERAGE CAR SIZE PAYLOAD" ON IT'S WAY
Posted By: IZAKOVIC [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 2-Dec-2013 09:56:55

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http://www.isro.org/mars/updates.aspx
Date
02-12-2013
Spacecraft has travelled a distance of 5,36,000 km by 17:00 hrs (IST) of Dec 2, 2013. It has crossed the distance to Moon's orbit around Earth (mean distance 3,85,000 km) this morning.
01-12-2013
Medium Gain Antenna of the Mars Orbiter Spacecraft is powered for long distance communication, subsequent to successful Trans Mars Injection (TMI) manoeuvre
Trans Mars Injection (TMI) operations completed successfully. The liquid engine burn time was 1328.89 sec and the imparted incremental velocity was 647.96 m/sec.
Trans Mars Injection (TMI) operations in progress.
Trans Mars Injection (TMI) operation began at 00:49 hrs (IST) on Sunday Dec 01, 2013.
Forward rotation of spacecraft, to put it into the right orientation to perform Trans Mars Injection (TMI) operation has been completed successfully at 00:30 hrs IST on Dec 1, 2013
16-11-2013
The fifth orbit raising manoeuvre of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft, starting at 01:27 hrs(IST) on Nov 16, 2013, with a burn Time of 243.5 seconds has been successfully completed. The observed change in Apogee is from 118642km to 192874km.
12-11-2013
Fourth supplementary orbit raising manoeuvre of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft, starting at 05:03:50 hrs(IST) on Nov 12, 2013, with a burn Time of 303.8 seconds has been successfully completed. The observed change in Apogee is from 78276km to 118642km.
11-11-2013
In the fourth orbit-raising operation conducted this morning (Nov 11, 2013), the apogee (farthest point to Earth) of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft was raised from 71,623 km to 78,276 km by imparting an incremental velocity of 35 metres/second (as against 130 metres/second originally planned to raise apogee to about 100,000 [1 lakh] km). The spacecraft is in normal health. More..
09-11-2013
The third orbit raising manoeuvre of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft, starting at 02:10:43 hrs(IST) on Nov 09, 2013, with a burn time of 707 seconds has been successfully completed. The observed change in Apogee is from 40186km to 71636km.
08-11-2013
The second orbit raising manoeuvre of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft, starting at 02:18:51 hrs(IST) on Nov 08, 2013, with a burn time of 570.6 seconds has been successfully completed. The observed change in Apogee is from 28814 km to 40186 km.
07-11-2013
The first orbit raising manoeuvre of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft, starting at 01:17 hrs(IST) on Nov 07, 2013 has been successfully completed More..
05-11-2013
PSLV-C25, in its twenty fifth flight, successfully launches Mars Orbiter Mission Spacecraft from SDSC SHAR Sriharikota
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Between us, India's space program chief studied in Croatia. Perhaps that had something to do with Harry Ruppe, Kotnik and other local natives that worked at NASA.
IZAKOVIC
http://www.deepspace4.com

Ben Fulford Blurb: Heavy Duty Last Minute Negotiations Continue..

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Ben Fulford Blurb: Heavy Duty Last Minute Negotiations Continue..
Posted By: Jordon [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 2-Dec-2013 10:02:02

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Weekly geo-political news and analysis
Based on high level contacts being made to the White Dragon Society, it is clear there is a growing consensus that the old dollar system be used to start a $700 trillion campaign to end poverty and stop environmental production, without impeding the continuation or start-up of alternative financial systems. However, as the world waits impatiently for the campaign to be announced, ongoing high level geopolitical negotiations, with a bit of saber rattling as a back-drop, are continuing to delay implementation, according to multiple high-level sources.
The main sticking points to world peace and the start of a new golden age are now the ancient Shia/Sunni political divide in the Islamic world, Israel and a few unresolved issues in East Asia, notably the Korean Peninsula and the Okinawan archipelago.
In Asia, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has met with Russian President Vladimir Putin four times and the heads of all the ASEAN countries in a campaign to build a coalition to contain China. The Pentagon, worried about continued financing, secretly supports this as it is keeping the war card as its last big negotiation leverage.
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