Thursday, May 8, 2014

MarkZ Q&A at I4U Wednesday Night Part 3 of 3

MarkZ Q&A at I4U Wednesday Night  Part 3 of 3

05/08/2014
[harondaddy] MarkZ - Would like to know if you are aware of the new treasury currency notes. I have heard from sources that the new notes were actually printed back in May 2009. I know there are some gurus who still beleive that TRN are not currency. Can you confirm that the TRN will replace the FRN?

[MarkZ] harondaddy I was told it is the USN but yes, the reset doesn't work without the asset backed UST money.

 [Lvn42day] MarkZ Please know that I have much respect for our intel providers. However, I cannot understand why our intel suppliers believe the information even if it IS from someone you trust and have faith in. How many times can PTB let us down and still be believed?

 [AwesomeAaron] Lvn42day Ditto

[Saved4Eternity] MarkZ Ok , I will ask. What is necessary for the IQD to become int'l currency? Who is ultimately responsible for the approval and final release of a currency release to the international community? IMF, Iraq, US, someone else?:
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[MarkZ] Saved4Eternity As I understand it the IMF will release it to regional level and once the controller of the north american banking block pulls the trigger then the world will acknowledge the reset.

[AwesomeAaron] MarkZ The time for silence has passed. After the elites cashed out AND the Banks clients cashed out AND still WE are sitting here with nothing.... enough is enough. Threaten to release the names is not doing anything to help motivate them. The names need to come out and be held accountable befor

 [MarkZ] AwesomeAaron the time for silence is almost passed.

[harondaddy] MarkZ - I am interested to know how the Federal Reserve will be phased out? Will people be educated publically about the illegalities of the Federal Reserve System?

[MarkZ] harondaddy We will know what happened. Most americans will choose to stay in the dark and will accept that we just moved the world to asset backed money to make banking more stable.

[sananddan24] MarkZ how about the IRS? Will they still be around?

[MarkZ] sananddan24 yes but in a VERY different form. It will actually be a division of the UST instead of a collection agency of the fed. It will have over sight and drastically changed powers and responsibilities.

 [sharpshooter007] Markz .. is the RI like a tree falling in the forest.. if you werent there did it really happened

 [derosegirl] Markz Have you heard that the Chinese bought the Federal Reserve? Is that the change of power??

[MarkZ] derosegirl no, the FED is just moving it's offices to London and Italy, they will continue as a company but will be changing their business plan bug time.

 [sananddan24] MarkZ the Zim?

[MarkZ] sananddan24 heck yes.

[catz] Markz will MC be on a call anytime soon?

[MarkZ] catz very soon

[Saved4Eternity] MarkZ what do you think of Stanley Fischer? Do you think Janet Yellen is going to end up being a patsy?

[MarkZ] Saved4Eternity yes on yellen

 [Believe13] hi markz..today someone indicated WF was showing dinar, Zim, VND, rupiah at the screens on hold..your thoughts?

[MarkZ] Believe13 Highly likely, I spoke with some other bankers that said they had a rate showing.

[Saved4Eternity] For those that don't know Stanley Fischer used to be former Governor for Bank of Israel and Senate ok'd him to be second in command of the Fed. So, he's poised to take over when Yellen is given her pink slip.

 [akjon] MarkZ I hope the IRS joins the FED's on their way out..

[MarkZ] akjon they will need a name change! :) Either way they will be drastically smaller and very changed.

 [socalcutie] MarkZ the way i see it, if they are publically announcing on the 15th, it makes sense to bring us in a bit earlier as private exchange outside of public perview wouldn't you agree?

[Digs] MarkZ - could you give a little background for the newbie's --- Months/years ago you were a very active/followed Guru, then went silent for a long period of time, now jumping head-first into the game again, New Site, Facebook, Twitter, Etc.,.... Explain... "Why Now"?

[MarkZ] Digs many reasons, the biggest though is I was asked to get loud to help educate and to keep the detractors from having free reign.

[sandytob] MarkZ Is the IRS still going to collect income taxes?

 [sonnayhwh] And the FED is a private corp, owned by foreign banks. So, the Federal revenue goes directly to foreign banks. Can you say "tarriff"? . . . grin

 [socalcutie] MarkZ and there will be a flat tax to go along with it.

 [mac] MarkZ. Do you have relationships with peeps in Reno?

[MarkZ] mac with a number of people there. Most there I do not trust as far as I can throw them though. I have spent some time in Reno because of this circus. There are some dang good folks there and a large number of snake oil salesmen.

 [babycakes12958] I am having a hard time following everything. Must be to tired. MarkZ nice to meet you so to speak I hope I can learn more later. I will just try to keep reading

[MarkZ] babycakes12958 research the Wanta Reagan Mitterand funds. Everyone should probably start there. there is plenty on the net to start researching. Then research the dollar refunding project, you will get crazy info on that but read it all.

 [jeff] Markz is the hold up the release of the trn/usn?

 [bryan1972] jeff Is that what your hearing? grin

[MarkZ] jeff largely yes that is the hold up.

 [jeff] Markz shazam

 [Saved4Eternity] Well then MARKZ I guess it's O holding it up then?

[MarkZ] Saved4Eternity I love blaming O but I don't think we can blame him this time.

[Saved4Eternity] MarkZ Well I believe he slowed the process down alot....

 [barb] MarkZ ZIM? with dinar

 [MarkZ] barb yes

[..SweetQueen] MarkZ VND, ZIM, RUPIAH ALL WITH DINAR?

[socalcutie] MarkZ and will you name names and all the details so we fully understand........ you like the facts Zman and we appreciate it very much

[MarkZ] socalcutie I am looking forward to getting to name some of the names. I am especially looking forward to naming the people that have been fighting for this to happen. The people who have given their lives to see this done. Those are who I really want to name.

[gatorguy] Markz.. The TRN notes need to be printed and in circulationrthe RV to appear OR does the UST just have to track the exchanged dinar as a TRN note in a digital form for accounting purposes/Basel III compliance?

[MarkZ] gatorguy I have been told by an exceptional source that many are printed but it can be exchanged digitally and tracked digitally. I was told that UST wants a short window on the 1 to 1 exchange to help remove illegal money and soften any devaluation

[SpecialAgentGibbs] No doubt they have stifled the RI, to prevent double double double dippy

[Gdsgrl21] SpecialAgentGibbs lol

 [imperium] [..SweetQueen] markz vnd, zim, rupiah all with dinar?

[MarkZ] imperium I believe so. I am looking for them at the same time.

[Jetskye] Markz do we know how many zeros off on the zim?

[MarkZ] Jetskye I have been told anywhere from 6 to 10

[SpecialAgentGibbs] MarkZ Any new info on the US deval %?

[derosegirl] I think devaluation is for a short time till the US treasury becomes Basel3 after the RV. What do you think Markz?

[zaneandres] I heard that there are trillions of dollars that would be removed from the system if we issue TRNs. Many criminals and terrorists would not be able to exchange.

[MarkZ] zaneandres exactly why they want a short window on even exchanges

 [MarkZ] SpecialAgentGibbs The UST is actually trying to remove enough illegal falsely printed currency to not have to devalue at all. The plan is agressive and logical.

 [Saved4Eternity] derosegirl I don't agree. I think it's designedto crash at some point so they an intro their NWO and digital currency/chip.

 [SpecialAgentGibbs] MarkZ Maybe between the illegal $$, and the ill gained $$ being cut out of the exchange, the offset will compensate?

[MarkZ] SpecialAgentGibbs That is the plan.

 [Cyndee49] What is 6 to 10. Missedsomething

 [Mother fine] Cyndee49 Gdsgrl21 zeros being removed from the zim

[Muruga] I hope there are provisions to curtail the enroumous amounts of dinar in the hands of organized crime, and getting the innocent to CE for them

[SpecialAgentGibbs] I wonder if they will ever give back Falcone's monmey

[derosegirl] I think devaluation is for a short time till the US treasury becomes Basel3 after the RV. What do you think Markz?

[MarkZ] derosegirl The UST will be B3 the moment we refund the USD. Reset equals B3 for the Treasury dollar.

 [lilypad] MarkZ, how many days is the exchange estimated to be to get the majority of the people exchanged?

[MarkZ] lilypad 30 for the IQD VND etc. on the USN/TRN from Fed note they expect 90 days

[tc0043] MarkZ why does the roll out of USN hold up the release of the 800

[MarkZ] tc0043 When the IQD was tied to the Reset it was decided it had to be paid in asset dollars. You can't pay in asset dollars without the reset aka USN/TRN

[socalcutie] MarkZ i have to believe it is May 15 since Zap has twice substantated that date i his posts. he's pretty straight up

[MarkZ] sandytob I believe the may 15th  Backwall date

[MarkZ] socalcutie Zap has the ultimate chinese connection

 [sandytob] MarkZ And I sure would like to believe that also.

[Saved4Eternity] MarkZ Yep we talkedabout May 15th before and I read the June timeframe.....

[MarkZ] AwesomeAaron two different sources. I only believe one of them.

[chini] what irak will do with ri international ill they wait untill june is ridiculuos

[gatorguy] Markz.... do you feel they would put 1 of the back wall dates ON the exact day parliment is seated? It just doesn't make sense

 
[AwesomeAaron] MarkZ Ah that makes sense.... I believe Zap and the May 15th date

 [akjon] MarkZ I look at it like this.. With the changes happening now with worlds economics and reset of currencies and the new banking systems designed to level the playing field you can't have the old systems in place that was the caused the problems (FED IRS BLM and so on.. ) in the first place..

[akjon] I do believe there are major changes coming that's going to be mind blowing.. What we will receive from this blessing is just icing on the cake compared to the changes that are coming.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] akjon you can bet on it!

[MarkZ] akjon I agree.

 [wingnaprayer] MarkZ Will the Banks make arrangements to take care of reserves when we schedule our initial appointment? Are the plans pretty much the same as has been discussed in the past or has the procedures to exchange been reorganized?

[MarkZ] wingnaprayer Some will

MarkZ] wingnaprayer There is no ONE set plan or bank. There will be good positive competition.

[gatorguy] MarkZ... notice the Auctions in Iraq are continuing... at what point do you think they will stop the auctions before the RV/RI

[MarkZ] gatorguy I personally do not think they continued. I believe that is smoke from the press.

[akjon] I do believe there are major changes coming that's going to be mind blowing.. What we will receive from this blessing is just icing on the cake compared to the changes that are coming.

[[AwesomeAaron] MarkZ Do you konw if the "contract" rates exist for the IQN and VNN?

[MarkZ] AwesomeAaron I am told Banks will offer those

 [sananddan24] MarkZ are rates still showing on the bank screens?

[MarkZ] sananddan24 Three bankers I spoke with today said yes, Two said no. 4 different banks total

[twinnster] markz...this has happened many times...requests going out to "gurus" to not blow the lid off...then nothing happens...YET

[MarkZ] twinnster I honestly believe this time is different. The requests came from a different source this time.

 [possum] MarkZ hi, do u know if any International (Aussie) banks aligned with G64 group exchange...

[MarkZ] possum I have not spoken with G64 group directly yet but I had heard that they had.

[glonadark] MarkZ With precious metals being needed to make the asset quota for countries, will the availability be scarce since countries will need them too or is the soveriegn buy up done?

[MarkZ] glonadark Yes to some degree but there are other resources and tiers figured in this time. It is not just a 'gold' back thing. Oil is tier one, coal etc, There is a much broader base which should soften the blow to metals markets. IMO

[pursuitoftruth] Markz, I look forward to when you are able to pull the curtain back and let us know the whole truth. The deception that has been used is palpable and it causes so much confusion.

 [glonadark] MarkZ after the GRC is considered public info, how long to you forsee the markets being stable as a whole?

[MarkZ] glonadark I am thinking 6 months myself. what do you think?

[glonadark] MarkZ personally, I don't know if the markets will destabilize since that would bring to light the GCR as a whole to those in the markets. just trying to get wiser opinions on the matter. Those with 401k etc will panic if things destabilize

[MarkZ] glonadark I think they will hide it and call it a market correctio

 [gatorguy] MarkZ.. I understand the cheap labor and the new found oil in the gulf there (forget the gulfs name) but how do you feel the relationship of the Oil credits for cash and vietnam puzzle fits into the equation

 [Robertprofessor] gatorguy Gulf of Tonkin

 [gatorguy] Robertprofesso Bingo.. thats the one! Thank you

[MarkZ] glonadark that is what I think

[glonadark] MarkZ like other "flash crashs" we have seen?

 [glonadark] MarkZ hmm....thank you for the info and you time!

 [misskitty05] Robertprofessor I'm starting to get excited again

 [Robertprofessor] misskitty05 Not me. Tired of the Revue.

 [top_gun] MarkZ thanks for your time tonight!! we know it is valuable and the castle appreciates you!!!

 [gatorguy] MarkZ.. thanks for your time tonight....

[MarkZ] tc0043 so welcome. This chat was a whirl wind and I was just trying to stay current with it. That screen was rolling! Mods if you caught half of that you were amazing!!! Folks who I missed just stay on me when you see me in here to answer you.

[superbiz] MarkZ hi I came in late tonight and I am sure its been asked but here goes. Do you think that we are upon the 10 day limit or whatevr it s called to make the RI official around the world???

 [MarkZ] superbiz I am thinking we close to it

[sandytob] MarkZ a moderated chat just means that you would get one question at a time and the rest of us would wait our turn.....it works very well.

[veggielover] MarkZ did you see all that WCW was saying about reserves not being honored. Was getting it from a post by blackjon. Do you think there was anything to that?

[MarkZ] veggielover I think it could depend on your dealer. Ask your dealers personally. I know I quizzed mine big time to make certain he had enough dinar to cover his reserves.

[glonadark] MarkZ do you think that things here domestically will go back to it being illegal to physically hold gold etc at a certian volume?

[MarkZ] glonadark I have been assured that gold will stay legal. I will admit that it scares me though

[glonadark] MarkZ do you think that things here domestically will go back to it being illegal to physically hold gold etc at a certian volume?

 [MarkZ] glonadark I do not think so

[nikki23] Markz do you think this will occur early mornings or in the day est time?

 [MarkZ] nikki23 early morning is easier logistically

[..SweetQueen] MARKZ THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN THIS EVENING AND DOING Q&A.

 [MarkZ] ..SweetQueen Thank you for having me

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[thrive] SweetQueen can you please put it out there in your room that wild duck is in the hospital needing heavy prayer

[misskitty05] thrive what happened to WD?

[..SweetQueen] WHAT'S WRONG WITH WILDDUCK?

[thrive] I just talked to him there trying to get his anxiety and blood pressure down

[AuntieM] I join with the prayers for Wild Duck's healing and divine protection from all attacks.


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another kool bank story just confirmed

another kool bank story just confirmed
  





this is fact not fiction not just another bank story have 2 confermations==just got second confermation from wf that starting 2 days ago dinar/zim/dong / and rupia is showing on screen with administrater hold people this baby is crowning wooohoooo

5-7-2014 (LATE) Poppy3
  





5-7-2014   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    I REPORTED LAST EVENING...THAT I AM GETTING DETAILS FROM SOLID SOURCES THAT A MOVE IS IN PROCESS AND THE TARGET IS FOR THIS WEEK TO GET IT DONE. THEY HAVE NOW TOLD ME THIS 4 DIFFERENT TIMES FROM 4 SEPARATE SOURCES. 

[Believe13] markz..today someone indicated WF was showing dinar, Zim, VND, rupiah at the screens on hold..your thoughts?
[MarkZ] Believe13 Highly likely, I spoke with some other bankers that said they had a rate showing.

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TNT Call 7-May-2014 Notes
  



TNT Call 7-May-2014 Notes
The call was delayed for three hours to bring extra information to the call.
Tony:  Good morning, TNT!  It is Wednesday May 7, 2014, at 1pm Pacific.  We delayed the call on purpose because we hoped it would be a more important call.  Our first caller has been on the line for 2444 minutes. He must have a really important question to ask!
At this moment, we are at a very sensitive position, so we have to be careful in what we are going to say.  I’m telling you that upfront. I’m excited, but Pam is more excited, and that should tell you something.
DC:  I feel very good!
Ray:  I feel ‘gooder’!  Bring it on!
Tony:  Several of the intel groups said I should cancel this call, said just don’t do it.  Me being me, here we are.  BUT… what I am going to do is this, to satisfy everyone on pins and needles, scared I’m going to say something… DC, go ahead!
DC:  Has anyone every seen a war movie or spy movie, where they show you the redacted file, with everything blacked out apart from ‘the’ and ‘and’?  That’s what this is like today.  Going back to our football analogy, we were on the 1” line, and then on Tuesday  morning it got pushed back to 2-3.  Now we are back on the 1” line, with a lot more offense pushing through. Most are getting along and we want to encourage that. 
Tony:  Not that the defense has been removed!  We just have a Plan B that is almost indefensible, but the game will still end on time, no matter what the play.  That’s as close as we should get.  What else should we talk about?
DC:  I was talking to a wonderful person I’ve known for 15 years.  When there is something sensitive, I ask this person what to do with the sensitive info, and s/he said, You can talk about anything you want, so long as it is not dinars.
Tony:  Someone was listening to the last call, and asked this:  You keep saying the RV already happened, and now you are talking about an RI, and an RV in the future.  Also, why are the rates being kept from us when that was the primary topic before?
DC:  It’s because we have become more active players than we expected to be, and I don’t want to be the idiot that they say they have to reevaluate everything because of something I said.  That is absolute baloney, but that has been used several times by the guys on the ‘defense’.  That’s why we have kept things very quiet on rates.
On June 27, the UN approved release of Chapter 7, and part of that was the revalued currency.  That afternoon, it was turned over to the international community. Due to technical problems on the one hand and also slow-rolling fixes, where they created delays so that they can mess with the rates and such, that all happened for a while.  Iraq was getting unstable, and everyone said that something had to be done.  They were promising every few days that Iraq would be the richest country in the world, but people on the ground were starving. So they released some of the back pay with a revalued rate in different areas based on different needs and also on political influence.  So some got the new rate on their cards starting in August. They took their own sweet time rolling this out as the international community fixed the technical issues and negotiated for higher rates.  So a lot of revaluation has occurred in Iraq, not the entire country;  in some regions, there are four or five different values for goods, which is very confusing.  Can you imagine the headache?  Plus they have removed most of the 25K notes, so they don’t all have smaller notes and they lack physical currencies.  Very frustrating!
So they have revalued, and they have announced that Iraq is wealthy, but not everyone is seeing the impact even in Iraq.  BUT they can say they revalued three weeks ago, and the international community screwed it up.  Then Maliki announced the RI, which was accepted internationally, and now that is being slow-rolled as well.  So some have the revalued currency and some do not, and if they are ordering something from overseas, it is very confused and confusing.  It’s not straightforward with the RI and the RV, and when it actually happened.
Tony:  There are too many people hitting the forum now.  If you keep going and it freezes the board, I can’t, so hold off for a minute. 
Q:  About contract rates – If you owe back taxes, can you still qualify for contract rates?  We‘ll have to ask the banker when he comes on.
What about the FINCEN form?  Check currency or investment?  Ask the bankers on that.
Guys, we were sent a link from Iraqi newspapers and from people in Iraq that TODAY they will receive all they have been waiting for.  DC, why would it be important to Maliki that it should happen today?
DC:  We are not taking this from sources, just thinking through the logic of it.  WE all know that Maliki wanted a third term.  He is highly controversial, and he wanted to get it done before the elections, but he declared an RI anyway on the 26th, so he gets the credit for it and also for forcing everyone’s hands and doing something positive for Iraq.  Now, in a coalition government, there are more than two parties… often there are 6-10 parties, and Iraq has a ton of them.  There are nine parties with real influence, so how do you pick a winner?  Well, they need X votes to form a bloc and form a government. So several blocs can get together to have a voting majority.  This is how all coalition governments work. So a person usually picks their party, and their party chooses the prime minister and the  major positions in the government.  The blocs negotiate with each other on the basis of their relative strengths.  That is normal. Right now they are negotiating all this. Logic would tell you that this is a very sensitive time because they don’t have all the official results yet, but they know pretty well who has what in terms of overall votes.  So if a person want to negotiate the best possible deal, this is when he wants to bring up his ace in the hole.  The RI/RV is very significant, and now is when they are cutting the deals.  They are tired with delays because that is affecting them on a personal level and in terms of their legacy.
Tony:  If we are looking at that, Maliki is broadcast
“/ting on television that today is their day. If it doesn’t happen, then they are going to be upset.  If it does happen, Maliki will get more votes and more influence. 
DC:  The major announcements will come out on Friday, and they start rolling out tomorrow.  The announcement may take through Saturday.
Tony:  We are now on the ½” line.
Q:  Should we wait until after your call to then call the 800 numbers?  I  don’t know because we still don’t have the package.  AT this point, all I can do is send out the text saying the 800 number is live and we’ll set up the conference call as quickly as possible.  I know they want to see people walking in the door within two hours, but if we don’t have the information… I would rather have the intel first, so that I know what I’m talking about. 
Q:  Now that the RI is separate from the RV, what happens now?  DC?
DC:  Can it pop up?  Yes, the RV can go through.
Q:  Please comment on Mtn Goat’s post on the forum.
DC:  Pam texted it to me and I read it.  I think for the most part MG has some pretty good information.  I would disagree on a few key points, and some of that may be interpretation.  I don’t believe anyone has a veto of everything.
Tony:  I know what you are talking about but I don’t think they do.  If I wasn’t who I am, involved the way I am, I’d probably give the same post as Mtn Goat. If I didn’t know everything that I do know at this moment… there are still certain parts I don’t agree with.  Things are so sensitive right now… I think Ray will have the best birthday of his life.  They told me not to say that this si a good day, so I won’t.
Q:  Someone said only the CBI can open the door, and that won’t happen until after August because that will be too unstable until they have settled after the elections.  Can you shad some light on this?
DC:  That is traditional wisdom.  Iraq is much more stable than portrayed in the US.  It does still have some issues but those are being addressed.  I do believe the coalition will sort it out long before  August.
Tony:  Several weeks ago, we said that if it weren’t announced before the elections, there would be problems. That was before the RI, too.  Since then, the team forming over there are already working together and have moved things in a different direction, and all those facts have led us in a different direction.
Q:  Is there any way the powers can hold this back as we have seen in the past?  If we don’t see this by Monday…
DC:  We shouldn’t antagonize anyone on that question.  Sorry.
208 caller:  I am in chat and I read what members are requesting, information that they really would like to have.   When it was announced about the RI in Iraq, the TNT family tried hard to satisfy their personal curiosity.  Can someone take a picture of a banner or a link so that TNT members who are suffering have something to hang onto?
DC: About the RI?  I don’t know.  I want to answer your question because you’ve been on hold so long, but I can’t think what concrete actions we can give you that won’t get someone in trouble…
Tony:  The BBC announced RI in Iraq on the 28th.  Someone sent me an email with a link to the newspaper article, and I cannot find it this minute. IF I can find it, or they can send it again, I will post it.  They are doing things in-country on their news that they don’t want to get out of the country, like the email the guy tried to send me three times.  When they ran those items in the US, there were no links to their sites, even though several people who told me they saw it with their own eyes.  You will have to take it on faith or read it in the history books afterwards.  You can then read it and say “I guess they were right”.  I’ll try to find that article and put it in the forum, okay?
Caller:  Last week international laws were being broken, and that people had to get it done or get left behind.  Will we be left behind?  Will that affect our window of rates?
Tony:  that was not directed towards us.  All the items have ben completed, and the button just needs to be pushed to let it go.  It’s just about notification.
Caller: Can we be told who will push that final button?  Once it’s pushed, does it go into effect retroactively?
Tony:  You can be told if DC tells you!  We delayed this call for a reason and we are still here for that reason, and everything is good.  That’s the best answer I can give you right now.  Let’s let sleeping dogs lie.
Caller:  IS there any new information about what will be in this first basket?
Tony:  I don’t think there is NEW information;  it needs to be finalized and then it will go.  AS soon as we give out the number, we’ll tell you which ones are in there and what to look for.  This is a very difficult call;  Pam and others suggested that I just not do this call;  it might have been easier all around.
303 caller:  Happy Birthday to Ray on May 19th!  Since the RI, is there a time limit they have to get this completed? 
DC:  Yes, there is, and some believe we are past that time, so things are very urgent.
Caller:  I can understand why you don’t want to answer a lot of questions.  Thank you and I look forward to Vegas.
DC:  We are not trying to by mysterious.  They have actually used our names as an excuse, which confounds me because we’re just not that important.  In case they use that again, we want to be totally neutral on that, especially now.
Tony:  That sounds like a radio voice… you know they say you have a face for radio!
212 caller:  What is the international law that requires countries to recognize an RI within a certain number of days?  How many days?  You said that if people didn’t recognize it,t hey would be left out of the deal…
Tony:  You need to understand:  none of that has changed.  DC?
DC:  There is a limit, and I’m not going to get into it.  Do you have another question?
Caller:  If you are you saying we are on the ½ yard line, I’ll let go of the question.
Tony:  We are on the half INCH line. 
DC: That’s part of the redacted part… but we feel good!
303 caller:  I’m super-fantastic cubed!  What does it really hurt if the CBI changes their website?  The dealers are still selling it, and if they cannot buy any more, then [didn’t hear] and we go buy more dinar, if anyone believed us in the first place after all this disinformation…
DC:  We won’t get into the timeline.  Why not change the website?  Because they cannot do that without an official rate change. It has to happen all at the same time.
Tony:  This is a two-step process. They had a rate change in the country. The RI has done the first step of announcing it, and now they have to implement it internationally.  That’s why you are not seeing a change.  It doesn’t affect what is happening in Iraq or the bank trading internationally – they already do that at that rate.  They have authorized expenditures and contracts all around the world. It only affects what the public sees.
Caller:  A multi-currency account is where you stick in dollars and buy other currencies and such.  Can you do that now, deposit your dinar, dong and zim, and keep their values?
Tony: For currencies that are already trading, yes, if the bank allows it.  Call them and ask. The dinar is not trading yet. Right now MCA are for businesses, but they are coming out with MCAs for individuals.
719 caller:  Good to know that other people are as whacked out as I am. I’ve been on hold for a month now… and today I just stayed on for 317 minutes.  My husband’s birthday is May 23rd and hopefully we will all have one giant party!  I used to work for the IRS, and then I went into network marketing.  I want to add one thing.  People are worried about receipts, and you’re right, you don’t need that for the banks. However, they do need the receipts for the IRS and their taxes.  If they don’t have receipts, they will have to pay short-term capital gains, which is more than the long-term rate.  So they will need the receipts or they may pay the higher rate.  I did post that on the forum, too.
We have a good bank story.  We bank with WF, with a trust, and there was a screw up.  As they tried to sort it out, our banker said that they were not ready last week, but now they are trained and ready.  She has invested herself, so they know about it.
I was discouraged with Mtn Goat’s posting, and the constant delays and no firm word about when it would go.  We get off your calls feeling encouraged, and then DefCon 2 last night, and then the Goat says that is what people say to keep you hanging on.  What can you tell us?
Tony:  There was info and history in there that was correct.  There is an issue and some people are still trying to stop it.  However, some people are switching teams and saying “enough is enough”, and working things out.  Are we trying to hype things up?  If it’s anyone’s fault, it’s my fault and other gurus who are trying to keep you involved in the process.  We want you to be involved, but you have to take it for what it is.  Until we get the 800 number, it’s a fluid situation.  IS it being done on purpose? It’s not being done to us on purpose.  I’m not saying “It’s going to happen” for the sake of it.  There are some people who cannot handle this situation, and we are trying to be quiet for a reason.  I just wanted it to go last night.  We heard all kinds of things last night, and we were being told it had happened, but here we still are.  I cannot discount the history of what Mtn Goat is giving because that is what has happened.  Some can handle it and some can’t.
Caller:  Also, last week you said that if it didn’t happen by last Friday, it would cause big problems and also names would be revealed.  Did something change?
Tony:  Yes, the situation changed;  they made agreements and arrangements faster than we expected.  We are not looking at that long distance of time we thought before.  They have actually agreed today, so why would we light a fire when we don’t need to?  Why would you burn the house down?
Caller:  You have a good heart;  do you believe what they are saying?
Tony:  I hear both sides, and yes, I feel good about every step that is taken, that it’s one less step to take or it’s taking us closer.  So I do feel good. That doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.  We get ten times in the information you do, and ten times the pressure.  Do I believe it every single time?  I believe there is the possibility. We’ve gone up to ten minutes before announcement and it has collapsed.
Caller:  Do you believe the dong will go at the same time?
Tony:  There is a strong possibility, and also it may not.  Six months ago, even three months ago it was definite;  now, we’ll just have to see.
804 caller:  If the RI was ten days ago, it should go live somewhere reasonably soon, right?  Have you heard anywhere it is currently tradable?
DC:  We cannot talk about that.  We just can’t go there.  Not trying to be a jerk…
435 caller:  There are people out there who, when we get it down to ten minutes, they can stop it?  That’s been going on since December, 2013 and could go on longer still.  Why cannot they just tell us, or postpone it until the investigations are done, so that are least we can relax?  There must be a time to stop this, cut our losses, and stop these people!
Tony:  Last December (2013) is different from today.  There is an end date in sight.  If you made this argument in January, I can fully understand it.  Today, tomorrow, the next day, with power-sharing begun, that changes everything… as well as the RI.  The RI itself has been declared and accepted;  there is no turning back from that.
Caller:  But someone is still stopping it from going through.
Tony:  But listen – there is an END DATE to the RI, when it can no longer be stopped.
Caller:  Is there a reasons why we cannot be privy to that end date?
Tony:  Because DC won’t let me tell you!
Caller:  I’m going to be 70 in June;  will I live to see this?!
Tony:  Absolutely!
Caller:  I’m dreaming of The Creature from Jekyll Island.
Tony:  If people read that and Confessions of an Economic Hitman, your entire economic view of the world would change.  If you cannot find it where you live, get it online.  Did it open your eyes to anything in our system?
Caller:  I think it was on my birthday in 1944 that the Feds did some of this.  Other things I remember happening. Why didn’t we do something about it then? Those who found out they were wrong should have gone in to correct it then. It has to be changed!  I will learn what I can and find out how to correct it.
Tony:  You’re doing the right thing.  Pass the book on to someone ten years younger than you, and ask them to pass it on to someone ten years younger than they are. Once we get it to the proper age level, things will start to change.
Pam:  There is a free download for Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and a youtube video as well, and the same for The Creature from Jekyll Island.  They don’t have to order the book, they are online.
Tony:  That was the last caller.  DC, where are we?
DC:  Everything looks great, we’re in a very sensitive spot.  We’re not trying to hide anything, we just don’t want to be used as an excuse for further delays.  Sometimes it’s best to sit back and let smart people do what they do.
Pam:  Thanks to our xMods and transcribers.  Be kind to each other.
Ray:  It’s getting gooder and gooder, and I’m going to miss some guys here.
Tony:  We held off hoping to bring you some good news.  Hopefully we will talk later or tomorrow.  Look around to what’s on the internet.  If it’s good, then absorb it; if not… Everything is good right now, and hopefully we’ll come back for a super-fantastic call.


great page about the Rothschilds

Wednesday, May 7, 2014

WE WON ON THE 200-400 YEAR REPORT. THEY LOST FAR BIGGER THAN THEY EVEN REALIZED! READ BELOW! - ERASMUS OF AMERICA - MAY 7, 2014

Dear John, We finally won on report. Used your backup blog to get it posted and then you could copy off of it. This is a gaint defeat for them. Also, we used a couple of tactics to track down where the interception of reports was done at. We by cross reference evaluate that they had an electronic interception on your side and decided what reports or emails to block from you. But you were never supposed to find out that they were trying to censor your blog. Thanks for posting report. YOU HAVE WON A GREAT VICTORY IN THIS AND SO HAVE WE! They legally hung themselves and now can be persecuted under state laws, national law, UN law, and laws of over 200 nations. They were dumb and fell into a colossal size legal ambush! We sent from 4 email addresses on google and one from yahoo. They blocked at least seven attempts to email you the report. This meant their interception system was on your end, not ours so they could read and potentially censor your emails and key reports sent to you. We had a hunch and were able to post on the backup blog. From there you could copy it and post it. This was a giant defeat for them and they can be criminally prosecuted now in hundreds of ways as the legal evidence is airtight what they did!

     Best Regards and God Bless! Erasmus Of America P.S. We caught it in time, but they had a backup plan in case we broke through the interception system they had on your side. We corrected any redlined words in the original report. Just before we sent, we suddenly noticed a number of redlined words again meaning a misspelling. We corrected again and promptly posted on your backup blog. Two of us had proofread the original report and there was no accident that several words were changed and misspelled which we didn't do. However, we caught their trick to try and ruin this report. They can go to prison for life over this! By the way, this explains why I had sent I think maybe 5 reports at different times that you never posted and which my proofreader with me thought were classics. You never got them and we were not supposed to know this but now their cover has been blown!

Mnt Goat Late Wednesday Morning Post Emailed to Dinar Recaps - Part 2 of 2

Mnt Goat Late Wednesday Morning Post Emailed to Dinar Recaps - Part 2 of 2

05/07/2014
What I am trying to tell you is the reinstatement does not really matter in the eyes of who is really controlling the rollout. It was an attempt by the IMF and Iraq to bypass the USA in this process but without any success. Remember the IMF has taken control over this rollout process but really how much control do they have? Who is really running this rollout process?

The recent Iraq reinstatement was thought to put a fire under the USA to stop this stalling and complete the process. It was not successful.

The powers in the USA who have control over the final rollout are bent on stalling as long as they can and will continue to stall until legal action is taken against them either by the international community or within the judicial system of the US government. We will not see this RV until this happens.
People – the new rates are at the banks!  They are in the exchange files ready to go international. All we need is one simple word – GO – and it is done. It would be a mater of hours if not minutes to complete the final piece.

There is no need for anymore meetings or talks about what actions are needed post –RV.  This is stalling and excuses once again. This all can and will be worked out post-RV and will be worked out since many of the real issues have not yet even been discovered and won’t be until the process is completed.

The real issue now to be most concerned about is why the stalling and to hold those accountable for the stalling. Remember they already conducted their exchanges back in December 2013 and also allowed the banks to sell and exchange IQD to thousands of preferred clients in February 2014. So now no hurry on their part to allow the general public access to the exchange process.  Of course the congressmen and senators are afraid to fight for justice in this situation since they too are guilty and would have to convict themselves. Is this not a conflict of office ? Do these people actually believe they are above the law? When will this corruption end?

Last week I promised that a list of the culprits and files on these crooked dealings   would be revealed. We are now in the process of finalizing this information and are now  setting up a timeframe to forward these files.

We expect the names of the culprits and all their shenanigans and their tactics used will be fully disclosed in the very near future. This action will be necessary unless action is taken to halt the stalling of the rollout process to the general public. This is not a threat since  I am only relaying information told to me by my sources. This is about possible future outcomes of the inability of the USA government to clean house of these culprits and complete the job they are legally responsible to complete in a timely manner. 

Iraq Elections Update

For those of you that believe that Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki still has a chance of hanging on to his position for a third term as prime minister,,,, THINK AGAIN. The preliminary results of the elections are done and  the results show that Maliki’s State of Law coalition has not won the majority  in his supporting party that will give him a third term in office.

As I have stated in my last news letters  I staked my bet on the Citizens Party and the alliances put together by Ammar Al-Hakim (head of the Islamic supreme council) and influential Shi’a cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr to run the next government. This is now all very, very good news. 

So how long will it take to form a new Iraq government?

I believe it will not take months but only a matter of weeks to form a new government. The final alliances and negotiations are now underway. However we must realize that the current Parliament and Council of Ministers remain in full control of the government until the June 14 mandate ends. The transition has begun.

Summary

So what can we expect in the future?

We have already heard about some election fraud proven to be set up by the State Law Coalition but it will have very little impact on the final results. If the western world now lets the true democratic process work fully in Iraq, they now have a chance of becoming a very strong nation as the focal point of the Middle Eastern countries.

Of course there are those countries like Syria and Iran who would rather not let this happen and so this will be a constant threat in the future. Saudi Arabia too has some issues by the possibility of a very strong Iraq with the wrong leader in charge however they realize it is a choice  between their neighbors and so plan to form a partnership and coexist peacefully to their mutual benefit. Turkey of course has been on board with the notion of a peaceful Iraq and supports all the current efforts to turn the country around.

In the coming weeks we will see on  national news media the changing of the government leaders in Iraq. We will then also see a slow evolution of lessening violence in Iraq and a more peaceful, politically stable country evolve. This will happen  since now honest efforts will be made to eradicate Iraq of the terror and violence that has squashed freedom and unity for so long.  Sectarianism and political division will be lessened too since the new leadership will not tolerate these actions and encourage instead the dream of a united and prosperous Iraq. 

The execution of the remaining phase of 5 year reconstruction plan for Iraq is coming to an end after  the last 4 years of stalling. The new 5 year plan is taking root. This last statement may sound funny to some but if you truly have been following Iraq politics over the last 2 terms of the Maliki government (8 years) you know the meaning.  

We will see the long awaited revaluation of the IQD (Iraq’s currency). I will tell you now it is the plan of the USA  not to rollout a reinstatement rate but to come out with a revaluation rate sometime. I have heard it could even be as long as mid June 2014. But this is only a date thrown out to us as any date since in their real intention they have to end date.

They will attempt to keep stalling the reinstatement  with more excuses and fooling the American and the international community. They will tell the IMF, Iraq and us lies to keep their cash cow milking. We see evidence of this once or twice a week with statements like – “it looks real good for tonight”. Their plan of course does not coincide with the needs and desires of Iraq and the IMF. This was obvious by the Iraq’s reinstatement maneuver a week and a half ago.

They are doing this so many more billions can be milked from the process before they are forced to finally let go of the goose that lays the golden eggs. They will not let go until forced to do so.  Will they be forced? Who will finally step in and clean up this mess?
This stalling however their plan in total disregard of the needs of Iraq and its people and even international laws.  They may continue moving forward with this stalling plan but in the process of doing so I can assure you they run the risk of paying a very high price for all those involved. In the short and long run many of  these risks will be disastrous for both their personal and political careers. The excuse of “I was only doing what I was told to do” will no longer have any merit since all involved will be exposed from the top down.  

Peace and Luv To Ya All,

Mnt Goat
 

MOUNTAIN GOAT UPDATE, 7 MAY


Hi Everyone,

I come to you today to write this newsletter and to express an amazement of 
more information that has come to light. As you know there has been an ongoing investigation on these matters of the USA stalling the rollout of the currency revaluations. Now these corrupt practices could become public in the near future. 

Today’s News

If you have been following my recent couple newsletters you know that there are some unethical and now illegal dealings going on with this IQD international rollout process.  The USA has control over the final steps to the process. As I have stated the controllers of this process simply do not want to end the continued bonanza of billions of dollars being made each and every time they stall the process once again. Once again I say it is not easy to give up the goose that is laying the golden eggs……lol….
The big question on everyone’s minds these days seems to be whether or not the IQD and the VND currencies will reset in the same basket (the initial basket) now that the reinstatement is underway. The reinstatement is of course just for the IQD. This is not however the question we should now be asking. They have already been very successful in diverting our attention.

This is how it was all presented to the public so far

Due to the reinstatement of the IQD on 4/26 other issues arose since only the IQD is revaluing to pre-war rate plus maybe 20-25% equity and not the basket of some 190+ other currencies. The USA was preparing to complete the final stages of the GCR rollout but now they have halted the process to rethink a new  process.

This is of course once again is an excuse and so ridiculous of a cover story  that I have to roll over and laugh. If you only knew the truth you too would do the same. …and yes it does hurt to laugh these days……

So let me put this in perspective for you.

First of all if the USA was really ready (and has been ready) to complete the final rollout process for the GCR on 4/26 and promised to do so at that time. However they failed to do it. Why? Stalling again? Then what has really changed between then and now? Nothing!

Why can’t they just run the rate updates (it takes 72 
hours) and complete the verification steps  and then activate the rates and let us exchange. How much longer do they have to plan? They did this once already last December for the politicians to exchange. They did this again last February for the bankers to cash in their wealthy clients.

Is the holdup now  the fact that, for the reinstatement, the rate must  now be  much lower than the planned full RV rate? No – any rate for the IQD can be used as 
the marketrate as long as it coincides with the agreed upon rate by all parties. All the other currencies might have to be adjusted but this is handled in the recalculation step of the process. This has already been completed.

Could 
the answer be that there are technical glitches in the re-running of the rate process. No – I have heard from reliable source this is not all set and new rates are calculated and ready in all down steam files.

Do they have to renegotiate with China or anyone else? No- the 
contracts with China or anyone else are now fixed and in fact China waits and wants the international rollout ASAP.

So what could be the hold up? These excuses being used are old and we are all used to hearing them over and over again. They seem to recycle these excuses. Have you noticed this too?

Oh let me tell you about the latest excuse. The reinstatement is done and they are working on the aftermath issues. Really?  Funny how can it be “done” since  when I go to the 
bank and I am not allowed to exchange like all the politicians and bankers have done. So how can this be “done”. 

The real answer simply lies in why did they not complete the rollout as promised in the first place on 4/24 and all the other times prior.

It is because they are making billions off the stalling each and every time they hold this up.

So if the USA did complete the revaluation process then Iraq would never have had to do a reinstatement process to circumvent the constant stalling since December 2013 in the first place. Right?

Please let us not overlook this simple fact and allow them to divert our attention away from  the real cause of why we (the general public) have not  yet been able to yet exchange.

It is because they are making billions off the stalling each and every time they hold this up.

It is time to start answering these questions. ( I am sure you have many questions of your own):

On Dec 1 we were told that this is the official date of the revaluation. Then how could this be since Iraq should also have been notified. No-Yes? How could Iraq then almost five months later do a reinstatement if it already revalued? Could Iraq have been forced to reinstate since the USA was not capable or refused to complete the rollout process?

How could then congressmen, senators and private wealthy banker cliental all be exchanging IQD already back in December 2013 if just now we got the reinstatement?

What legal basis do they have for exchanging so early and why did the United States Treasury allow this to happen and partake in this event?
To make things worst  this was done during a time of many of the  global economic bankingscandals and corruption scams going on?  Is not the UST the watchdog of the banking system? How could they allow this to happen and even assist to orchestrate it ? Who is behind this?

These are all valid questions and like the investigation of the 911 terrorist attack on the World 
Trade Center   there are just too many questions unanswered and being ignored to the general public.  It is time to bring this story  into the light for all to see the facts.

PART.2

What I am trying to tell you is the reinstatement does not really matter in the eyes of who is really controlling the rollout. It was an attempt by the IMF and Iraq to bypass the USA in this process but without any success. Remember the IMF has taken control over this rollout process but really how much control do they have? Who is really running this rollout process?

The recent Iraq reinstatement was thought to put a fire under the USA to stop this stalling and complete the process. It was not successful.

The powers in the USA who have control over the final rollout are bent on stalling as long as they can and will continue to stall until legal action is taken against them either by the international community or within the judicial system of the US government. We will not see this RV until this happens.
People – the new rates are at the banks!  They are in the exchange files ready to go international. All we need is one simple word – GO – and it is done. It would be a matter of hours if not minutes to complete the final piece.

There is no need for any more meetings or talks about what actions are needed post –RV.  This is stalling and excuses once again. This all can and will be worked out post-RV and will be worked out since many of the real issues have not yet even been discovered and won’t be until the process is completed.

The real issue now to be most concerned about is why the stalling and to hold those accountable for the stalling. Remember they already conducted their exchanges back in December 2013 and also allowed the banks to sell and exchange IQD to thousands of preferred clients in February 2014. So now no hurry on their part to allow the general public access to the exchange process.  Of course the congressmen and senators are afraid to fight for justice in this situation since they too are guilty and would have to convict themselves. Is this not a conflict of office ? Do these people actually believe they are above the law? When will this corruption end?

Last week I promised that 
a list of the culprits and files on these crooked dealings   would be revealed. We are now in the process of finalizing this information and are now  setting up a timeframe to forward these files.

We expect the names of the culprits and all their shenanigans and their tactics used will be fully disclosed in the very near future. This action will be necessary unless action is taken to halt the stalling of the rollout process to the general public. This is not a threat since  I am only relaying information told to me by my sources. This is about possible future outcomes of the inability of the USA government to clean house of these culprits and complete the job they are legally responsible to complete in a timely manner.

Iraq Elections Update

For those of you that believe that Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki still has a chance of hanging on to his position for a third term as prime minister,,,, THINK AGAIN. The preliminary results of the elections are done and  the results show that Maliki’s State of Law coalition has not won the majority  in his supporting party that will give him a third term in office.

As I have stated in my last newsletters  I staked my bet on the Citizens Party and the alliances put together by Ammar Al-Hakim (head of the Islamic supreme council) and influential Shi’a cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr to run the next government. This is now all very, very good news. 

So how long will it take to form a new Iraq government?

I believe it will not take months but only a matter of weeks to form a new government. The final alliances and negotiations are now underway. However we must realize that the current Parliament and Council of Ministers remain in full control of the government until the June 14 mandate ends. The transition has begun.

Summary

So what can we expect in the future?

We have already heard about some election fraud proven to be set up by the State Law Coalition but it will have very little impact on the final results. If the western world now lets the true democratic process work fully in Iraq, they now have a chance of becoming a very strong nation as the focal point of the Middle Eastern countries.

Of course there are those countries like Syria and Iran who would rather not let this happen and so this will be a constant threat in the future. Saudi Arabia too has some issues by the possibility of a very strong Iraq with the wrong leader in charge however they realize it is a choice  between their neighbors and so plan to form a partnership and coexist peacefully to their mutual benefit. Turkey of course has been on board with the notion of a peaceful Iraq and supports all the current efforts to turn the country around.

In the coming weeks we will see on  national news media the changing of the government leaders in Iraq. We will then also see a slow evolution of lessening violence in Iraq and a more peaceful, politically stable country evolve. This will happen  since now honest efforts will be made to eradicate Iraq of the terror and violence that has squashed freedom and unity for so long.  Sectarianism and political division will be lessened too since the new leadership will not tolerate these actions and encourage instead the dream of a united and prosperous Iraq.

The execution of the remaining phase of 5 year reconstruction plan for Iraq is coming to an end after  the last 4 years of stalling. The new 5 year plan is taking root. This last statement may sound funny to some but if you truly have been following Iraq politics over the last 2 terms of the Maliki government (8 years) you know the meaning.

We will see the long awaited revaluation of the IQD (Iraq’s currency). I will tell you now it is the plan of the USA  not to rollout a reinstatement rate but to come out with a revaluation rate sometime. I have heard it could even be as long as mid June 2014. But this is only a date thrown out to us as any date since in their real intention they have to end date.

They will attempt to keep stalling the reinstatement  with more excuses and fooling the American and the international community. They will tell the IMF, Iraq and us lies to keep their cash cow milking. We see evidence of this once or twice a week with statements like – “it looks real good for tonight”. Their plan of course does not coincide with the needs and desires of Iraq and the IMF. This was obvious by the Iraq’s reinstatement maneuver a week and a half ago.

They are doing this so many more billions can be milked from the process before they are forced to finally let go of the goose that lays the golden eggs. They will not let go until forced to do so.  Will they be forced? Who will finally step in and clean up this mess?
This stalling however their plan in total disregard of the needs of Iraq and its people and even international laws.  They may continue moving forward with this stalling plan but in the process of doing so I can assure you they run the risk of paying a very high price for all those involved. In the short and long run many of  these risks will be disastrous for both their personal and political careers. The excuse of “I was only doing what I was told to do” will no longer have any merit since all involved will be exposed from the top down.

Peace and Luv To Ya All,

Mnt Goat
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 10:04 AM

MAC0929 POST FROM TNT FORUM: RAYREN SAID

This is what Rayren said in his call this morning.  He said reason for this belief were that both were showing on bank screens on "hold". 

Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:53 AM