Saturday, May 31, 2014

Case No. 323780. FRAUDULENT COMEX-BANK OF AMERICA, JP MORGAN-CHASE PAPER

By V.K. Durham
4/19/02

TO: The World Islamic Trading & Banking Organization
wito@m…
U.S. Security Exchange Commission
mccreery@s… and
via fax:
U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the U.S. Treasury Customer.Assistance@o…
and via fax:
Chief of Operations Fraud Division INTERPOL Arnie Gammelsgarrd

Case No. 323780
Ref: Global Alliance Investment Association Corporate Officers, E.J. and Doris J. Ekker as Corporate Officers, Individuals, U.S. Citizens and Residents of Makati Philippines issuing “Deeds of Assignment for Consideration” alleging collectability against the U.S. Treasury and U.S. Federal Reserve, WAREHOUSED in the Islamic Gold Banks (per Ekker’s own published statements);

To Whom It May Concern:
It has come to our attention, Global Alliance Investment Association, here-in after called GAIA Corporate Officers have and are conducting International Banking & Finance Instruments Frauds doing business and issuing Deeds of Assignment for Consideration” in amounts of Billions-Trillions of American Gold Dollars written on our BONUS 3392-181 COMMODITY CONTRACT-BOND and LIEN(S) COLLATERALIZED INTERESTwith the ISLAMIC GOLD BANKS Warehousing” same in said Islamic Gold Banks leveraging against the U.S. Dollar. This statement is made based on the GAIA Corporate Officers own published statements as published in their own news paper called CONTACT: THE PHOENIX PROJECT JOURNAL.

During the month of January 2002, We, This Holding Trust accidentally occasioned a GAIA 10B$ “Deed of Assignment for Consideration” written to a Professor Deku of Ghana. During the explanation of the bogus and fraudulent instruments assigned to Professor Deku by GAIA many email exchanges went back and forth between Prof. Deku, The Durham Holding Trust, The U.S. Secret Service, Interpol, and the Central Bank of the Philippines. Professor Deku tendered his documents alleging collectability on our BONUS 3392-181 and how to VERIFY AUTHENTICITY as alleged by GAIA and Corporate Officers E.J. and Doris J. Ekker. In each instance, the victims of this INTERNATIONAL BANKING FINANCING GOLD SCAM were asked to call “Thomas Ganz of the Washington County Illinois County Court House and verify if certain instruments were filed of record”..

Of course, Mr. Ganz would have to say Yes. The instruments are filed of record”. Had the parties inquiring asked the proper questions “Who’s names are these instruments filed under?” Mr. Ganz would have responded “V.K. Durham and The Durham Holding Trust.” We have assigned NO interest to anyone. Any instruments marketed by the GAIA Ekker’s are derived from forgery, false notary, false seal and copies of our Recorded of Record Title Instruments on BONUS 3392-181 COMMODITY CONTRACT GOLD BEARING COLLATERALIZED INTEREST & LIENS.
Further, We agree to the Gold and Silver as mediums of exchange. On the other hand, WE do not agree with the methods of GAIA, the Ekkers and those with whom the Ekker’s associate. We seriously object to the KIDNAPPING, TORTURE and ultimate MURDER of the Corporate CEO Russell Herrman (Herman) of Cosmos, Seafood Energy Marketing Ltd; ID#1707-85 by those desiring to obtain control over BONUS 3392-181 “GOLD BEARING “ONE TIME ONLY” COMMODITY CONTRACT COLLATERALIZED INTEREST” DUE AND PAYABLE ON THE CONTRACT’S PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST ON THE PRINCIPLE, AND INTEREST ON THE INTEREST DUE AND PAYABLE FROM MAY 1, 1875 TO MAY 1, 1990. When the Kidnapping, Torture and Ultimate Murder of the Corporate CEO Russell Herrman (Herman) attempts of forcement of signature” of said Corporate CEO failed; Forgery of the CEO’s Signature and False Corporate Seal, including a Notarization of the Corporate Officer’s Signature, Sealed by a false seal did occur FOUR YEARS AFTER CORPORATE CEO RUSSELL HERRMAN (HERMAN’S) DEATH of August 29, 1994.
Currently the GAIA Ekkers allege approximately “2000″ of these GAIA Deeds of Assignment for Consideration” are being WAREHOUSED in the ISLAMIC GOLD BANKS” AND, if true this amounts to TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS IN AMERICAN GOLD DOLLARS which is VALUELESS.
These “Valueless” GAIA Deeds of Assignment for Consideration” again cause the United States of America and the American People “Loss of Face and great inestimable embarrassments”.. The ISLAMIC nations are unhappy with the AMERICAN BANKING SYSTEM AND OUR ECONOMIC INFRA STRUCTURE. The American People have had nothing to do with these INTERNATIONAL BANKING FINANCE “GOLD SCAMS”.. Only a “sellect few” of Ex U.S. Treasury Agents who have retired or been removed from service for one reason or the other who have been working with Active U.S. Treasury Agents with the Ekker’s of GAIA, who have openly published and BLACKMAILED U.S. Federal Government Officials who formerly used our COLLATERAL without our Authorization during the period of 1991 which caused enormous financial loss’s to other nations.
Make NO MISTAKE; We are the HOLDERS IN DUE COURSE and THE OUTSTANDING CREDITOR of the United States. The DEBT is held by our BONUS 3392-181 “ONE TIME COMMODITY CONTRACT” of which “The Principle” was assumed” by the U.S. the Assumption Ratified by both U.S. Houses 1905-06.
The Interest DEBT was left to the Peru as the CONTRACTOR OF THE “ONE TIME COMMODITY CONTRACT” and Mortgaged to THE BOND HOLDER “UNTIL PAID.” We are the Bond Holder, The Commodity Contract Holder, and Mortgage Holder of all ENCUMBERANCES held by the “Peruvian Legislature’s Annex’s of April 27, 1875.”
We have issued by email and fax to the U.S. Office of The Comptroller of the Currency advising of EXPOSING the GAIA “DEEDS OF ASSIGNMENT FOR CONSIDERATION” currently marketed and warehoused in the Islamic Nations of the ASEAN. If, as other requests for “exposing and stopping the Ekker’s of GAIA” by proper Law Enforcement Agencies, this is “IGNORED” also.. Then, there must surely be other ways for RESOLUTION other than the current prosecution of WAR between our Nation and the alleged Islamic Jihad dissidents.
Each of us, being NATIONS, PEOPLE’S, NATIONS BANKS and The CORPORATE OFFICERS OF COSMOS, SEAFOOD ENERGY MARKETING LTD; ID#1707-85 have suffered GREAT AND INESTIMABLE LOSS’S. Lives have been lost on both sides due to this INTERNATIONAL BANKING FRAUDULENT INSTRUMENT “GOLD SCAM” situation. Perhaps, we can successfully resolve these matters “peacably”.., which is our Hope.
Many of your nations leaders know me, they know who I am, they knew my late husband Corporate CEO Russell Herrman (Herman) of Cosmos, Seafood Energy Marketing Ltd;. In the knowing of each of us, you, your nations and your nations leaders know; WE DO NOT LIE. http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/DeedsOfAssignment.html
“widow maker” is when the bough breaks for the end of this story is
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-widow-maker-is-when-bough-breaks.html
THE WIDOW MAKER IN PLAY BANKER AFTER BANKER SUICIDED
By: V.K. Durham, CEO
Durham (Intl. Ltd;) Holding Trust, Tias 12087

THE UNITED STATES regarding those Counterfeit “Collateralized [U.S.] Debt Obligations” which due to the Counterfeiting of U.S. Debt using CDO’s..
As the situation worsened; It was necessary Wed, 22 Apr 2009 to file the TRUE OWNERSHIP of Durham Holding Trust “Sovereign Debt” instruments and Chain of Title at [ http://www.theantechamber.net/Vk2009/DocumentationValidation.htm  ]
The Courts Declared the GAIA-EKKERS E.J. Ekker’s a FRAUD.. E.J. Ekker’s throat was ‘cut’.. he and his wife Doris J. Ekker the HATONN are dead.. but that leaves another very dangerous “Hatonn” out there..hating the United States of America with a passion. You can find her at [http://www.theantechamber.net/C8mirror/ChapterEight.html ]
CHINA BIT ON THE POISONED BAIT.. believing all those U.S. Corporations that had been filed in the State of Nevada were actual, real, bona fide U.S. Corporations, not having the slightest idea there had been Identity Theft involved.
Why would anyone have the slightest suspicion when such individuals and the corporations with which they were associated was involved with providing ‘tainted’ Prime Bank Instruments such as these individuals and the following corporations:
Mr. Dimon, Mr. Gaithner, The Clintons, Greenspan, Rubin etc have enjoyed a long run since the 1998-99 Restructuring of the Global Monetary and Finance.. and in this “Bankrupting” of the united States.. having gone to the extent to allow and encourage the ‘MONEY LAUNDERING of COUNTERFEIT US DEBT OBLIGATIONS’ by using what appeared to be U.S. Corporations such as
1. The InterAmerican Development Bank
2. Multi-Lateral Investment Association
3. Depository Trust Co. 55 Water Street, NY, Ny.
as the before mention in collusion of this Bankrupt the united States conspiracy allowed and why did they allow this?!! THEY WERE ALL “ABOVE ALL LAW” and THE RULE OF LAW DID NOT APPLY TO ANY OF THEM!
1999 they became big time important and incorporated THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.
Nevada SOS corporation registry confirms that
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.
Nevada domestic corporation, entity number C19852-1999 ,
has been permanently revoked:

http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=WI9dI1hXntllUJBFjV0nFA%253d%253d&nt7=0
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=WI9dI1hXntllUJBFjV0nFA%253d%253d&nt7=0
A Nevada Corporation, incorporated by a group of AMERICAN CITIZENS (operating as A SPACE CULT)(actually “foreign agents”) proceeded to incorporate “quasi” U.S. Fed. Govt. Agencies “corporations” during 1997-98 who also incorporated the following treaty international agreements other than treaties corporations of the US being;
i. The Inter-American Investment Corporation
ii. The Inter-American Development Bank
iii. The Depositor Trust Co. 55 Water Street, New York, New York
Plus; They incorporated a TRUST held corporation known as COSMOS SEAFOOD ENERGY MARKETING, LTD; NEVADA ID # 17O7-85. This corporation was thought to hold PERFECTED SOVEREIGN GOLD DEBT INSTRUMENTS which it DID NOT HOLD.
operations using IDENTITY THEFT of U.S. Corporations and Treaty international agreements other than treaties Section 12087 Corporations see E.J. Ekkers quote: Inter-American Development Bank just set up a little nice banks all around, you know, the little Asian Development Bank, European Development Bank, Hong Kong Development Bank, po-dunk Development Bank, and ever so many more. This sprang out of Inter American Investment Corporation MINE originally set up by the Bush’s but never through Incorporation OOPS, BIG GOOF!! This was also pretty inclusive of the DEPOSIT TRUST [Depository Trust Co. 55 Water Street, New York, New York] outfit who runs all the stocks, etc. [end quote]
Which brings about the issue of E.J. Ekker’s throat being cut, and the probable cause. see:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=158479
Mr. Ekker’s Case came up in MALAYSIA o/a May 23, 2009. A gentleman came forth, identified Mr. Ekker and Testified against Mr. Ekker.
The Courts Declared the GAIA-EKKER operation A FRAUD. After the Case was declared a Fraud..

FRAUDULENT COMEX PAPER

One of the rules by which the elite aristiocrats abide is they consider it rude to not warn us before they do something bad to us. They’re like criminals with manners. In other words, it’s gauche to flush the toilet while the serfs are in the shower without a heads up. – Anonymous
TND Guest Contributor: Dave Kranzler |
I honestly don’t know how long they can keep up this fraud using fraudulent Comex paper. It’s gone on much longer that I ever thought conceivable. I think we all underestimated the degree of corruption in DC and NYC, which means we’re all underestimating the consequences.
We find out yesterday in a Washing Times article that Obama authorized the use of military force against U.S. civilians in 2010: LINK. As it turns out, the option of using the military in the Cliven Bundy situation was considered. Is that the type of policy all you Obama supporters voted for?
Gold and silver get smashed in Comex trading every day this week, despite an avalanche of fundamental news that should have triggered a big move higher in the price of gold/silver. A friend and colleague of mine called me this morning and said “they smashed gold and silver everyday this week – there has to something really bad coming at us.”
For those who recall, after a big move higher in early 2008, the price of silver was smashed in March from $20 starting on March 6, 2008. Bear Stearns stock was trading well over $60/share at that point. Silver bounces back to $20 and then gets annihilated on March 17, right after JP Morgan agreed to buy Bear for $2/share.
Meanwhile, in the background, Lehman Brothers was quietly on a path to collapse, as were AIG and Goldman Sachs. After the Bear debacle settled, silver trended back up to $19. But at the end of July that year, silver began a steep sell-off from $17. Unbeknownst to most observers, Lehman Brothers was about to collapse. At the same time that Lehman collapsed, AIG was collapsing – as was Goldman Sachs from its derivative ties to AIG. By mid-September the U.S. financial had de facto collasped and we know how the story unfolded from there. AIG and Goldman were saved because the former CEO of Goldman Sachs happened to be the Treasury Secretary at the time and his butt-boy, Tim Geithner, was head of the NY Fed.

My point here is that there’s a reason that the Fed, using its agent banks on the Comex, is working overtime to try and push gold and silver a lot lower using fraudulent Comex contracts while China – and now Russia – accumulate physical gold hand-over-fist. Blinded by extreme corruption and hubris, the Fed and the Government are trying to destroy the messenger.

The message likely should be telling us that something devastating is unfolding behind the scenes. Likely something far uglier than what unfolded in 2008.

I know for sure now that the housing market is starting collapse again and household formation is at 30-year lows – the friend who called me told me four homes for sale in his neighborhood reduced their asking price this morning. Retail sales are plunging despite the onset of favorable shopping weather and the rigged GDP number went negative in Q1. If we could see the truth, I wonder had bad things really are…
http://thenewsdoctors.com/something-really-ominous-is-coming-hold-on-tight/

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/09/425089.shtml

ABORTING THE “END GAME” OF The Treasury official playing the bankers’ secret End Game was
author: Multiple Authors, Gordon Duff, Greg Palast, Tom Flocco, V.K.

PUBLIC NEED TO KNOW:
Hopefully this will be the aborting of the scheduled take-down of the United States Dollar backed by Durham (Intl. Ltd;)Holding Trust, Tias 12087. It is unfortunate Mr. W.J. Clinton, Robert Rubin, Timmothy Giethner, Alan Greenspan, G.H.W. Bush, G.W. Bush, James Brady III, the U.S. Treasury, Bank of England, U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, World Bank, International Monetary Fund, World Trade Organizations, Al Gore using The Enviormental Protection Agency, the United Nations and etals for such a horrific violation of HUMAN RIGHTS creating global wars to cover their rumps as explained below. V.K. Durham, CEO, Durham Holding Trust Tias 12087
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ABORTING THE “END GAME” OF The Treasury officials playing the bankers’ secret End Game was Larry Summers. Today, Summers is Barack Obama’s leading choice for Chairman of the US Federal Reserve, the world’s central bank. If the confidential memo is authentic, then Summers shouldn’t be serving on the Fed, he should be serving hard time in some dungeon reserved for the criminally insane of the finance world.

The memos are authentic. http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo/#more-8455
Which confirms CEO, V.K.Durham, Durham (Intl. Ltd;) Holding Trust, Tias 12087 [including why those involved denied the marriage of V.K. Durham and Russell Herman][they forged the wrong signature i.e., Russell Herman's] that which is contained herein.


May 31, 2014. By: V.K. Durham, CEO Durham (Intl. Ltd;) Holding Trust, Tias 12087

11/2/04

To: Interpol, Islamic Development Banks & Attorneys..
snip: This involves every FREE AMERICAN’s individual freedoms, individual rights, civil rights, civil liberties, and the before-mentioned, is why I now ask for each of you receiving this for your assistance in informing the PUBLIC as FREE AMERICANS and Sovereign Nations of Europe and the Far East.
Excessive, Abusive, Deliberate Misuse of what has appeared to be the real COMMODITY CONTRACT BONUS 3392 and Certificate of Indebtedness of Peru No. 181 by The Ekkers and those involved at the U.S. Dept. of the Treasury, U.S. Fed. R. Bank (New York), who as per the Ekker’s PUBLIC NOTICES
http://www.theantechamber.net/VkDocuments/DocGroupG/Gpage4.html published in the Contact paper allege to “Have an agreement to split 50-50″ from the total amount of Gold Collateral Interest on BONUS CERTIFICATE 3392-181.


How does this effect all of you? Simple. December 28, 1988 Information Services Corporation (used by the U.S. Fed. Govt. Agencies for verification and calculation of complex interest due on Contracts such as “The one time only BONUS Commodity Contract 3392 and Certificate of Indebtedness of Peru No. 181 dated May 1, 1875) performed the first set of calculations on the accrued Gold Interest on THE COMMODITY CONTACT holding the One Time Only Bonus 3392 and No. 181 which is Notarized. This Notarized first set of actuarial was later re-calculated by the Fed. R. Bank in Los Angeles, Cal., who, incidentally, using the same “contractual agreements as to the graduating interest’s” formula reached the same, identical calculated amount due and payable on the One Time Only BONUS 3392 Commodity Contract and Certificate of Indebtedness No. 181.
The amount calculated by both was $206,858,581,465,280,000,000.00 due and “Payable” in “AMERICAN GOLD DOLLARS,” Gold, Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and/or Coin of the Realm on THE GOLD COLLATERAL INTEREST due on BONUS 3392-181. The Notarized Documents are also filed of Public Record.
Currently, per the Ekkers PUBLIC NOTICES a 50-50 split is in effect, allowing up to 5 Trillion Dollars per annum to be written, put out in the International Banking and Financial Community, further alleging these instruments are “collectable” from The U.S. Dept. of the Treasury and U.S. Fed. R. Banking System. If you do not assist in STOPPING this, each and every single “free” person, will ultimately be made RESPONSIBLE for the Payments of this INTERNATIONAL BANKING AND FINANCE FRAUD situation of GLOBAL ALLIANCE INVESTMENT ASSOCIATION aka Ekkers.

You can be rest assured, someone is going to pay the TAB, if not in personal loss’s, by WAR and “MINERAL RIGHTS” being taken from the VICTIMIZED nations, corporations, individuals, who have entered into these Unholy Agreements with this highly virulent, Muslim Cult “Priestess” calling herself HATONN, ST. GERMAIN, DHARMA, SOLTEC, and other various assundries of “alias’s” which the Kern County Record’s indicate of Public Record “21 Alias’s” being used by these scam artists.

UNCITRAL acknowledges instruments such as these, as do the International Banking Systems. Global Alliance Investment Association Banking Activity in the International Banking and Finance Industry has scammed the best of scammers with this “alleged” ownership, allegedly assigned by a BLIND MAN who could not see to read his own bank account records, his personal communications, or Corporate Affairs.
October 3, 2002, THIS TRUST did walk into the Fed. Reserve Bank in Omaha Nebraska and make known our OUTSTANDING CREDITOR of the United States position, and did so most effectively.

We provided substantiating documentation of the frauds of the Global Alliance Investment Association “Ekkers” and other associated in this Global International Banking and Financial Fraud directed against the United States and other Nations which is a “conspiracy” (per tape recorded meetings of Hatton) “To take the global economics hostage with the Bonus 3392-181 fabricated documents, and only V.K. DURHAM would know the Truth.” Additionally, the TRUST made known to the Federal Reserve Bank Officers, “We are not responsible for the Frauds, or any Fraudulent Act committed against the Trust and/or Trust owned Property, which equally stood for The U.S. Federal Reserve Banks and U.S. Dept. of the Treasury, as we EACH, EQUALLY, stand HOLD HARMLESS from these FRAUDS.” The Fed. R. Bank Agreed.

October 8, 2002. A DEBT SWAP was tendered to the Bureau of Public Debt, U.S. Dept. of the Treasury for $1 Trillion Dollars Gold Collateral. This was to reduce the U.S. Debt by 1 Trillion Dollars whereas the TRUST proposal, was for $1 Trillion Dollars return in T-BILLS which would have been leveraged to JUMP START THE U.S. ECONOMY. We have received no response. We can only surmise..SOMEONE HAS “BIG TIME EGG ON THE FACE”..for everyone had been led to believe V.K. DURHAM (ORIGINAL OWNER OF BONUS 3392-181) “WAS DEAD.”

If in fact, V.K. DURHAM the original owner was indeed “dead” this gave a free reign to those involved in this Global International Banking and Finance Frauds. How did V.K. DURHAM “become legitimately dead in the Computer Data Base Records?” By GAIA in an agreement with those in THE ALPHA MEMORANDUM aka Department of Health and Human Services, the agency privatized by George Bush, as President of the United States in Executive Order 12803 of May 4, 1992. By June 21, 1992 “V.K. Durham was deceased in the Department of Health and Human Services Data Base Records. So much for the Ekker’s ALPHA MEMORANDUM, and “legitimate deading of V.K. Durham in order to pull off this GLOBAL BANKING FRAUD which currently has brought us to a STATE OF WAR. more http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/112NewsletterUpdate.htm
This article pertaining to “non responsibility” for ODIOUS DEBTS posted May 05, 2014 has reportedly “hit the ground running in Europe and Far East in time for the upcoming DAVOS meeting.

http://www.nesaranetwork.com/2014/05/29/it-is-evident-wantas-25-t-cannot-possibly-cover-the-reported-as-749-trillion-dollars-in-us-debt-derivatives-notice-of-non-responsibility-re-derivatives-trading-the-mother-of-all-bubbles-by-v-k/

JAMI DIAMON [BANK ONE], THIS TEXAS TWO STEP-BILLIONAIRE BOYS CLUB.. EXPOSÉ’S THE DYEGY-ILLINOVA MERGER which DEFRAUDED “STOCK HOLDERS” WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF “MORGAN-CHASE”… DEFRAUDING THE STOCKHOLDERS OUT OF $3,812,792,613.70 USDA… placed into BANK ONE NORTHSIDE (as Jamie Diamon was coming onboard from THE BILLIONAIRE BOYS CLUB Citigroup Citibank), March 31, 2000. The instruments, FINANCING STATEMENT UCC-1 ILLINOIS SECRETARY OF STATE NO. 3498793 “PERFECTED”, was “solicited” by BANK ONE to be deposited into THE DURHAM (INTL. LTD;) HOLDING TRUST (TIAS 12087) BANK ACCOUNT. WE DEPOSITED “FOR COLLECTION PURPOSES ONLY” without being told of the MERGER BETWEEN “DYNEGY-ILLINOVA-ILLINOIS POWER.”
We were assured; BANK ONE LEGAL DEPARTMENT & BANK ONE TRUST DEPARTMENT had “Pre-Approved” the DEPOSITING, and would DEPOSIT THE FUNDS INTO THE DURHAM (INTL. LTD;) HOLDING TRUST ACCOUNT “IMMEDIATELY UPON DEPOSIT.” The documents were DEPOSITED.
BANK ONE DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDS ON THAT DAY TO “PUT INTO THE ACCOUNT”.. “WOULD WE STAY OVER UNTIL MONDAY; THE MONEY WOULD BE DEPOSITED “MONDAY”… Come Monday..same story..BANK ONE WAS GETTING THE “MONEY TOGETHER” TO “DEPOSIT INTO THE ACCOUNT.” We drove back to Iowa..the money had not been deposited into the account. 4/20/00 a fax arrives from BANK ONE “Needing a NEW SIGNATURE CARD in order to complete the transaction”… Mr. Stevens, Bank One disappears, so do the FINANCING STATEMENT-UCC-1 DOCUMENTS (WE LATER DISCOVERED, AS BANK ONE HAS REFUSED TO RETURN THE INSTRUMENTS, OR DEPOSIT THE MONEY) placed FOR COLLECTION & DEPOSIT INTO THE DURHAM (INTL. LTD;) TIAS 12087 BANK ACCOUNT AT BANK ONE, MARCH 31, 2000.

Upon returning home from MONROE LOUISIANA “BANK ONE DEPOSITING”… WE DISCOVER “DYNEGY” is MERGING with ILLINOVA-ILLINOIS POWER…, AND CEDE & COMPANY WERE THE NOMINEES TO “PAY OFF THE CREDITORS OF ILLINOIS POWER-ILLINOVA on MAY 31ST, 2000″ in order THE MERGER could go through.. CEDE & COMPANY NOMINEES were mailed a CERTIFIED LETTER “DEMAND OF PAYMENT TO A SUPERIOR CREDITOR” aka THE DURHAM (INTL. LTD;) HOLDING TRUST (TIAS 12087. CERTIFIED to CEDE & COMPANY NOMINEES, 55 WATER STREET, NEW YORK, NEW YORK..per the Postal Inspectors was HELD UP at THE POST OFFICE BY THE RECIPIENTS TO WHOM THE “DEMAND FOR PAYMENT OF A SUPERIOR CLAIM” WAS MADE..UNTIL AFTER “THE MERGER WAS SUCCESSFUL.”
At no time was THE STOCK HOLDERS noticed of this OUTSTANDING DEBT A UCC-1 as an ENCUMBRANCE ON ALL ILLINOIS POWER-ILLINOVA HOLDINGS, STOCK, EQUIPMENT, POWER SOURCES, GAS LINES, ELECTRIC LINES, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, TRUCKS, AUTO’S, OFFICE BUILDINGS, OFFICE EQUIPMENT, BANK ACCOUNTS ETC., WHEREVER SITUATE.
Subsequent discovery; ARTHUR ANDERSON was also the BOOK KEEPING SERVICES of DYNEGY, BANK ONE & ILLINOIS-POWER-ILLINOVA.. BANK ONE HELD THE ACCOUNTS OF “ILLINOIS POWER-ILLINOVA & DYNEGY”…

This was turned over to THE BANKING REGULATORS… “NO AREA OF JURISDICTION”… FURTHER, TURNED OVER TO THE U.S. SECURITY EXCHANGE COMMISSION…it has never been addressed…
This is pretty good TEXAS TWO STEPPING..BY THE “BILLIONAIRE BOYS CLUB” who can continue THIS “TAKING, AND USING OTHER PEOPLE’S PROPERTY” WITHOUT PERMISSION, AS WITH THE “GOLD COLLATERAL DERIVATIVES DEBENTURES” which is about to bring them all “down.” read more http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/TexasTwoStep3.html
Lets take another shovel of dirt out of this massive hole of Financial Terrorism, Financial Espionage and downright ACTS OF TREASON.

5/24/05. snip: Let’s CONNECT MORE DOTS. Keith Johnson aka K.J. the Queens Signatory at WACHOVIA BANK, TORONTO CA stated “President Clinton had appointed him in 1997 to move out the tons of crates of U.S. Debt Instruments warehoused in the Philippines. This included an appointment to the WORLD BANK in 2005 for “K.J.”
I went public on this statement; WACHOVIA & BANK OF AMERICA now have SECURITY PROBLEMS.
Who ties in with BANK OF AMERICA? E.J. EKKER… E.J. also ties in with COMEX GOLD TRADERS.
ATZLAN…a key to all of this? If so… you had best go back to the old NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC’S of early 2000-2001.. THE RECONQUESTING OF THE AMERICA’S… and JIMMY CARTER and MADALENE ALBRIGHT’S find tuned hand involvement with the King & Queen of Spain.

Where did all of this commence? It commenced back with U.S. President Harry S. Truman and BRING THE GOLD HOME which began in 1947 with a SPECIAL TEAM of his most trusted.
This Operation got out of hand when the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS moved in with THE BRETON WOODS-IMF-GATT agreements finalized in 1947 which then was pushed through the U.S. House.
THE BRETON WOODS-IMF-GATT of 1947 made WE, THE PEOPLE the BACKER’S of the RE-CONSTRUCTION OF WAR TORN EUROPE. This put our homes, our farms, our industry, our manufacturing, our health care, our children’s education, research and development etc.., our water supplies, our water ways, our energy supplies at jeopardy.

May 1963. U.S. President John F. Kennedy issued Executive Order 11109 Ordering the U.S. House of Representatives to Re-Open the Investigative Branch of the House of Un-American Activities, and investigate the U.S. House Members all the way back to 1947 (Breton Woods-IMF-GATT).
U.S. President John F. Kennedy nullified THE PSYCOLOGICAL STRATEGY BOARD aka THE OPERATIONS COORDINATION BOARD aka THE SPEciaL GROUP (see)
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/SPEciaL.html  which was intended to pull the teeth of THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.


Instead of re-opening the HOUSE INVESTIGATIVE BRANCH and INVESTIGATE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES; J.F.K. was murdered…while THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPS ignored Executive Order 11109?
Our leaders are “tucking tail” and refusing to investigate as we have evidence of UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES at the very highest levels of U.S. Fed. Government and the WE, THE PEOPLE are raising hell about “the government abusing them”..
The abuse of alleged NECESSITY OF STATE stops at the SOVEREIGN CIVIL GOVERNMENTS-STATES WE, THE PEOPLE levels. WE, THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT…the knot heads in WASHINGTON, D.C. are “employees” of We, the People…

Check out the following Articles at
http://www.theantechamber.net  FOLLOW THE MONEY and THE BIG FIX articles… open each site contained inside.. You will be able to CONNECT THE DOTS fully..but; for heavens sakes study
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rayelan/message/20  very carefully.

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DEEP SOURCE PRIVATE CHAT, 30 MAY

DEEP SOURCE PRIVATE CHAT, 30 MAY
Dinar Chatter from Deep Source(s) Private Chatroom

[DS#1]: With all intel that has been coming in these past few days, it seems that this will be our last month.

[BTy]: We all very much hope so, we've all been stuck in limbo for years.

[BTy]: When do you think the RV will happen, what time of day?

[DS#1]: If the RV happened, it would be on Iraq's time.

[DS#1]: You would already see the new rate change either at night or in the morning when you wake up as it would already be afternoon in Baghdad.

[Jj512]: Wait, if the RV would happen on Iraq's time, does that mean Iraq is in control of the rate change?

[DS#1]: I believe so but only for show on the news. The new rates should be shown and announced on the CBI. Although, expect many surprises.

[Chainman74]: Why has this been held up for so long? Kuwait's RV was.instant.

[DS#1]: This isn't like Kuwait's RV. If it was, it would have already happened. There are too many people and PTB involved in this currency revaluation as well as the GCR.

[Chainman74]: Is there any intel you could share with us tonight?

[DS#1]: We have been told to keep a lid on it. There is a lot of information and disinformation circulating around in dinarland. Time will tell, be vigilant from now till next week.


[DS#1]: That's all for now, have a good evening everyone. We are at the end game.

TNT CC NOTES, 30 MAY

(Notes by Adept1):

Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#

http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventID=56014149

Tony:  Good evening, TNT!  Today is Friday, May 30, 2014.  DC just got home from a long day at work, and we will let him spend some times with the kids and his wife.  Sorry, ladies, he is married!

This will be a short call. It was a very hectic day. We started last night – yesterday we were excited and Wednesday, thinking we would have the 800 numbers and everyone would be at the banks
this morning… which did not happen.  I didn’t do the call this morning because we were upset that it didn’t happen, and the reason we were hearing it didn’t happen.  So we needed to figure out what going on, what we were being told, how much was true and how much a misunderstanding or misdirection. It took us a lot of calls to do that, and we were still getting 2-3 sides of the story and the changes that were supposedly being made (and I didn’t agree with any of them).  I wanted to do this earlier in the day, but I wanted to make sure we had the right information.  We had to go to some unusual sources at high levels.  Everyone was confused in the US and elsewhere, and people were very pissed off. But everything came back.

We were hoping up ‘til this moment to hear some things that will give us more positive feelings and actions, things being accomplished. I really didn’t want to upset the apple cart
and come back to find out things were being resolved, and that is what we came back to, just that.  We came back to receiving an explanation, to hearing some things were misinterpreted (not full scope or information) and that’s what got us upset.

This is what we did:  we tried to contact a unique source/person, and so we are relying on that. 
We had come up some contacts today, some things I didn’t want to do, still do not want to do, and in order to do that, I had to make some commitments I didn’t want to make. I’ve done some things I am not going to talk about today, I might tomorrow, let’s see how it goes.  I had to put some things in motion to protect YOU, to help and benefit you, not me or the teamI want you to understand that, because if I have to do it and you find it out, it’s not about us – we will survive anyway.  Regardless of what you hear, which you will hear tonight probably, when it starts leaking, I haven’t quite figured out how to do it as far as protecting all the people who listen to the call.  I have the people in the forum taken care of it;  I want to get everyone on the calls taken care of as well.  I’m trying not to go into detail. If you hear some negative stuff, some of it might be true, but supposedly things are worked out to our betterment.  If not, I have spent the best part of today trying to create a security blanket for you, if we can. They are working on it, but it may be for a limited number of people.

That’s how bad my day has been.  Contract rates are still there, international rate is still there.  It’s a bit scary and confusing, but the rates are still there.  Things could still
pop up tonight.  They are trying to stretch it out to the first… it went last night up to a point, and once again it was stopped by the same people.  We are all frustrated, all tired of it.  There is nothing wrong with saying “We won’t do it until this date”, but they say they are going with the program, and then they stop it again and delay it again.  It’s a confusing issue.  Our good guys are still good guys, and we want to have faith in our good people in DC.  I know they are trying to do their best, but every time we come down to the same point where the bad guys win, and they win again. I call them bad guys because they won’t let this go through. They promise the world one thing and do something else, and that is frustrating!

Right now,
we are waiting for a responseWe are waiting for confirmation that the good things are happening and everything is where it should be.  We should see it no later than Monday. I wanted it no later than today because that’s what they said.  The majority of the intel team was ready to burn down the house this morning – submit the papers, etc. – and we waited to hear it was not as bad as we thought, or that there was misinformationSo we decided to wait and let the information get back today. DC, Pam, the whole team let it be known today that we are here for you guys. That’s what we want to see done, what has been agreed upon. We should have been doing this call five months, they reassured us that it will be alright, and it’s really important to me that it comes out like that, because I’ve been the one telling you it would alright.  I am here to help you all make as much money as you can, at whatever rate.  I’m still doing that, unless they do things the right way, and then I will sing my NDA and go on my way.

I’m sorry if it sounds scary or confusing, but that’s the kind of day it’s been.
You should be at the banks right now instead of listening to me.  I don’t want to do a call over the weekend, but we’ll do what we have to do.  Be happy!  Whatever it is, hasn’t taken place, and things change within 24 hours.  The bottom line is this:  we have everything we need to effect change before, during or after. That definitely effect change if we have to use it.  We don’t want to use it, but if we have to…

Pam:  With you all the way, Tony!

Ray:  Okay.

Tony:  This will be a short call, so ask short questions.

513:  We will stand by you, we have your back.  I’m not in the forum, so what does it mean?  Will we be
left out of the contract rates?

Tony:  We’ve heard some changes in how they want to do this.  My main thing is that you get treated fairly.  Iraq has to RV, so the only thing is the parameters around us exchanging. We have discussed those many times, how long they would be available, requirements for higher vs lower rates.  Every night you don’t see the RV, you know someone is stopping it who doesn’t want you to have whatever. As long as it is something about the global reset or the US economy, those things we have to let them handle. When it comes down to you and me, and how we should have it, that’s the time for us to speak up.  You can’t change the rules in the middle of the darned fight.  Anything else isn’t our business, but that is not going to do that.  Somebody will be fighting to get it stopped even after it happens!

Caller:  Will you be able to have a phone call after it happens to help those who aren’t on the forum?

Tony:  Yes, absolutely!  That is the purpose of the call!  I know they will give the information to five intel gurus; they will give the packages to me, DC and three others.  We are going to have calls anywhere from 7-14 days, going through the package, with bankers on the call. But some others will get the information as wellWatch Twitter and the new sites, and we will keep you up to speed.  That’s not the part I don’t want to do.  I don’t’ really want to do that either, but I agreed to do it to get you guys the right information.

Caller:  How many aces do those guys have in that deck?

Tony:  I don’t know! 
Those guys say they agree, and then they think at another way to stop it. They give them too much time to find issues or delays.  When it comes down to us, that is something different.

Caller:  You’re doing a great job;  we are here for you, for us, and we appreciate you.

352 caller:  In the last ten days, you’ve mentioned that anyone wanting to stop this, they had to do it in writing… how came that hasn’t worked on these guys?

Tony:  You will hear about this later.  You’ll hear that the RV was released last night internationally, and countries/
programs were given a lot of money, that promises were made, and that satisfied everyone. The door was opened, money was shovelled out, and distractions put in place, asking for a couple more days to do that.  We keep getting different versions, and being told there were misinterpretations. Well, we’ll know today or this weekend.  I just wanted you to know the kind of day we’ve had.  Even though it’s been put out there, we need to do something to protect the 20K on TNT, and those donating money to the site, and I have to protect those people.  I can’t protect five million, but I can protect those people.  It might not even be needed, but that’s the kind of day it’s been.

Caller:  Do you understand  yourself why they are trying to stop this?

Tony:  I do.  I don’t agree with it, but it was made even clearer this morning.  We don’t have a dictator, we have two main parties, and it has to be more than one person thinking this way or it wouldn’t be happening
.  I think we should vote them all out!  We have an information to do that…

Caller:  Is the main objection that we are getting anything, or too much?

Tony: 
Their main objection is that they think it’s too much for most people to handle.

Second 352 caller:  Did they give you the 800 numbers today?

Tony: They could have, but they didn’t.

Caller:  Will we have a level playing field this time or are we behind those people again.

Tony:  I don’t know; it depends on who I talk to.  Everyone says what
they did last night was so dirty… we should have been at the bank this morning. What they did and the way they did it was so dirty, they stopped the RV, even though everyone was on lockdown in the banks and State Department, when they knew they were going to pull this at the last minute.  People in government, doing what they think is the right thing and finding out it wasn’t, that is what’s really upsetting people.  They didn’t cash anyone out last night, though.

540 caller:  How much longer will these shenanigans continue?

Tony:  They are trying to stretch this out to the 1. June, and then to 1. July. 
Iraq’s timeline is the 1. June, for Maliki to get what he wants.  That part I’m reluctant to talk about, because it’s our country and their country, and we shouldn’t get involved in thatIn far as us, changing the rates and procedures, when they get into that part, we want our voice to be heard.  I sent out a request for specific information so that we don’t mess anything up, and that contact said, “We were going to do this today” but we didn’t.  We asked for an understanding, and after that, we can only do what we think it right.

Skype caller:  We are all behind you.  Going back to November and where we are today, we keep saying that if they go longer… they can’t get away with it… at what point do you decide we go to the next level and make sure that We the People do get cashed out, at whatever rate?

Tony:  A whole lot of people said today IS the day for that.  Pam didn’t agree.  We decided to get more information and then see what happens tonight.  We were really close today.  We know Maliki is supposed to have this by the 1st. We were given specific dates, and I’m waiting for a response and some details, and for someone to come back with the package and firm information.  Any other way, it will be painfully evident when it is time to do that.

Caller:  You said some of this would come out, and in Mtn Goat’s post we can read between the lines.  Can you confirm that what we read last night, that the GCR did go?

Tony: 
The GCR hasn’t gone, but the RV did go through and it was blocked in the US.  We heard from all levels that it did go through and it was blocked here by dirty tricks. But if so, why didn’t we get calls from all the other countries?  They said that tonight we will see it.  So they blocked it here, and other countries also agreed to block it from their people so we didn’t see it.

Caller:  I did something on CNBC that the GCR was coming at 4pm Pacific.  So it will be interesting to see if it goes within the next 24-48 hours, and if not what our response will be.

Tony:  I’m trying to be perfectly honest with everyone so that you can know where we are.  There are many people listening to this call.  We are not threatening anyone;  we are trying to survive and be treated fairly.  I am being honest, and I could say a whole lot more than I’m saying now. There was a situation today, and hopefully it was all worked out, but… we keep having them, again and again. 
We keep bringing in bank and exchange people and telling people that it’s tonight, and those people are frustrated.  They are calling and giving us the information!  When it is just down to us, I don’t understand why this is going on. This should be a no-brainer by this time.  We went through it today.

My last word is, just stand by, it will all work out.  We know the good guys are trying to do the right thing, and they keep getting stopped at the last minute.  I don’t know how they overcome it.  We can only do what we need to do, and I don’t know if that helps or hurts, or they want to do it themselves.  I said today “Help me help you;  help us understand why we keep going through this over and over again when we know the RV has been released.”   The 800 numbers are out there and can be activate, but people keep restricting it or trying to stop it. Where is that line?  People are trying to push me over the line, not just from TNT listeners but from our intel sources.  We are trying to be conservative and make sure the wrong people aren’t asking us to do that.  I know they are listening to this call, and they need to know what is happening here.  You guys are still calm;  I know you waited a long time for this call, but it was a frustrating day today.

903 caller:  I’d like to ask Pam a question;  can she put me on the forum?  Then I wouldn’t have to wait 8 hours on the phone.  I’ve been on the line since 10.30am!


Tony:  I don’t know.  You’re one of the people I’m explaining to about our day and trying to get intel.  Sorry you had to wait so long!  I’ll give Pam your number and see if she calls you up.

301 caller:  Will the US have any penalties to pay for failing to do the RV?

Tony: 
It doesn’t matter to them, because it’s been going back and forth;  we’ve gone through that so many times that we haven’t told you about. There is an international rates and contract rates, and fees, etc., but it doesn’t matter.

Caller:  Have our rates gone down?

Tony:  I don’t think so.

Caller:  Does Maliki’s third term play a role in the RV date?

Tony:  They have given him a date of June 1st.  It’s the 30th there now.  That is the date they are still looking at for their new government to be announced. 
In the mosques this morning, they were told the new government would be announced in the next 2-5 days.  So we’ll have to wait it out and see, and hope that everything is still there.   I don’t know if I’ll be doing a call tomorrow or after the weekend.  I have a safety net for you guys, and if it’s done, I’ll do a call tomorrow.

Caller:  I hope that when we get to Vegas, if DC is not there, you will at least have a cutout of Adonis…

505 caller:  We are in the process now, it seems, of still being able to call and make an appointment and get into the banks in a short amount of time.  Is that still on, or is it changing?

Tony:  Hold on.  Do we still go in in that time frame?  I don’t think it’s being changed.  They said they want the first people in within two hours. But we have to get the package, go through the procedures, etc.  They could give us the package now, sign the NDA, etc., and do the call immediately after the release of the 800 number OR they can release the 800 numbers, then give us the package and then we can go over it and then have the call.

I’m not sure the Bilderburg Group is affecting what we are doing.  I don’t think so but I don’t know what they are doing.

Caller:  Understanding something makes patience work better…

Tony:  I agreed with you.  Let me think about it:  do you eat hot dogs?  They taste good, don’t they?  I promise you, if you walk through a hot dog factory and see what they are made of, you may never eat them again.  It’s the same thing with information;  you think you want to know, but you really don’t.  
You know some of the things that occur in our government, country, banks, and then you can’t un-know it. To look at life as it was before and be able to enjoy it… people say I want to do this with my money or that… and you wish you could live in that world again where everything Is just great and fine.  Info is not all it’s made out to be.

I do believe that they will give us the exact information you will need to go in and get paid.  They are still figuring some things out.  It’s based on the reactions of people, and that’s why we will have calls for 7-14 days, because it’s a fluid situation and changes based on people’s responses.

Pam has told me several times to finish the call.
Everything is still on track.  A lot of good people were frustrated today who were celebrating the day before because they were led to believe it was done, and then they had the rug pulled out from under them.  Those were the calls I got this morning. Things did settle down, and we’ll see what happens this weekend.  We’ll hope for the best.  Today I got started with some changes to protect as many people as I can.  Enjoy your Friday night and if something significant happens I will tweet it or have a call if something super-fantastic happens. They are telling us to be calm and it will work out.   Thanks, Pam and Ray.  Enjoy the rest of your day!

Post CC Tweet: I said that the RV was stopped by the U.S. and that Maliki has until 1 Jun 14 to get it done. Please listen carefully.

Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 8:01 PM

Biden calls for "New World Order"

Brasscheck TV
Fri. May 30, 2014 at 8:15 AM
Subject: Here we go again...
Biden calls for "New World Order"

It's like a rite of passage.

Every flea-bitten US politician apparently is obligated to repeat the phrase every chance they get.

Here's the Junior President urging US Air Force Academy cadets to go out and
"create a New World Order."
Do they not understand that, in so doing, this will further enslave them just like it will everyone else?

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL 9:35 PM EST BY VINMAN & J.HARVEY, 30 MAY

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL 9:35 PM EST BY VINMAN & J.HARVEY, 30 MAY

We are all at the finish line right now.
The world is rising up.
Meetings in Hong Kong, Geneva and London confirmed.
--------------


©We are at the finish line...all of us. Being distributed outward globally. The UN is meeting right now with the Chinese Elders in Geneva.
©Confirmed London has executed a trap with the dollar/TRN's as bait regarding the Tiers robbery/manipulation. They tried to run away with the loot but the law is on their trail.
©The corporate left a paper trail and shredded documents. The bankers got caught with their hands in the cookie jar by Interpol.
©The truth is coming out. Banks, Forex traders are being investigated for dark liquidity trading and using algorithmic trading practices, thereby manipulating foreign exchange rates mounting in the trillions of dollars in investments.

©A tug of war is going on between on between good and evil.

Deagle 2014/05/29 - Ted Broer - Intense Info .

EXOGEN DIRECT INTEL 9:35 PM EST BY VINMAN & J.HARVEY, 30 MAY

We are all at the finish line right now.

The world is rising up.

Meetings in Hong Kong, Geneva and London confirmed.
--------------
©We are at the finish line...all of us. Being distributed outward globally. The UN is meeting right now with the Chinese Elders in Geneva.

©Confirmed London has executed a trap with the dollar/TRN's as bait regarding the Tiers robbery/manipulation. They tried to run away with the loot but the law is on their trail.

©The corporate left a paper trail and shredded documents. The bankers got caught with their hands in the cookie jar by Interpol.

©The truth is coming out. Banks, Forex traders are being investigated for dark liquidity trading and using algorithmic trading practices, thereby manipulating foreign exchange rates mounting in the trillions of dollars in investments.

©A tug of war is going on between on between good and evil.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 9:00 PM

sounds real promising, if all are on the same page today...
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 9:00 PM


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[SpecialAgentGibbs] Folks PLEASE listen.... we all have been in this long enough to have experienced oodles of misinfo posts over time. They ALWAYS run their course, and the vast majority end up debunked. PLEASE take a deep breath and relax instead of running around with your hair on fire. THINK about these types of posts, and wait until they prove their merit or fall by the wayside.

[toolfan4] SpecialAgentGibbs so she had a gun to her head to post that and to asked not to be questioned.....bellagrits= fear monger imo

[TexasMom] MarkZ hello and welcome!

[MarkZ] toolfan4 Bella was not fear mongering. We all have sources and some you send down the chain when they ask. Everyone give poor Bella a break. :)

[ChildOfGod] MarkZ She did say she was asked to make the post, but the subject matter? True or false?
....
[MarkZ] ChildOfGod Let's review..... I do not have all my old notes so I may miss a date or a number but here are the basics. The 'Gold treaty' was signed about a year ago by all 188 participating countries. Last March 21st if memory serves me, now all we have been waiting on is it's execution.

[superbiz] MarkZ so the Bella post is smoke IYO?

[MarkZ] superbiz Smoke is too strong a word and honestly 'straightening' it out would take way too long and no one ever pays attention when we 'gurus' try to teach you all the background and process anyways. You would have to know the players involved, the ego's and the personalities of all the parties to understand today's intel. I will sum it up by saying I am not at all worried.
PERIOD

[norm] markz what about us stopping it last night??

 [MarkZ] norm who stopped it? Why do folks always believe that crap?

 [norm] MarkZ the bad guys lol

[norm] june 1st still looks good

[gatorguy] norm The sooner the better.. Talibani always said he wanted the new GOI seated before the RV

 [superbiz] MarkZ RV on schedule for this weekend maybe??

 [K Boom] MarkZ- good evening- thanks for coming in. SO- Still in MAY? (2-3 more days)?

 [gatorguy] MarkZ
100% agreed!!! This is a process.... Iraq is building an economy and the process is just in its progression.. no one is STOPPING it.. its just like a cake, its not ready to take out of the oven yet

[SonOfTheRepublic] MarkZ Unfortunately all we have are these intel sources, and that is what we have been hearing today. So, it is frustrating for us too. So, tell us something POSITIVE!!!

[MichaelWeston] SonOfTheRepublic during the process of any "deal" there will always be those that add distractions and misinformation into the mix. The bigger the deal the more distractions

SonOfTheRepublic] MichaelWeston Agreed for sure and this is a big deal.

[MarkZ] SonOfTheRepublic I know the people involved, the personalities and the ego's. I know what brought the tiff on and I know what the outcome most likely is. Everyone just needs to step back and relax.
This is a PROCESS that is moving surprisingly well. Not sure if we can still squeeze it in before the end of the month but it is still possible. It could take weeks more at best. I am over caring if it is 2 days from now at 1:32 pm or if it is 9 days away. I just want it done soon and right.

[SonOfTheRepublic] Thanks MarkZ that puts it in perspective

[K Boom] MarkZ- so without being too specific- what tiff can take 9 days vs. 3 days to resolve?

 [MarkZ] K Boom I was just making an example. ignore the number of days, it was to make a point.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] So, someone got their skivvies all in a knot and threw a tantrum

[wingnaprayer] SpecialAgentGibbs Then it's time to put a thong on them! If they throw another tantrum we can use it as a slingshot rofl

goddess] I guess I don't really get this. There will always be egos and people trying to screw things up. I think there should be someone brave enough to just do this.

[couchspud] so, if the TRN is gone will the USD devalue? and if so, how fast? and if the GCR/RV occurs what then should we exchange into?? any thoughts? or was this discussed earlier and I missed it (just got in) :mais5:

[MarkZ] couchspud
The TRN/USTN or whatever you want to call it is not gone.

[pursuitoftruth] MarkZ thank you for your input. I was a bit taken back by the post for sure. I tire of riddles so it is nice to get straight answers for a change.

[gatorguy] MarkZ Agreed. We have the tarriffs and the free trade zones nation wide now, the UN demanding the projects started June 1, The kurds meeting with Baghdad on article 140, the HCl and possibly the Budget, early preliminary election results. New GOI June 15, ISX going live July 1just to name a few things

[MarkZ] gatorguy At least you are paying attention... :)

 [gatorguy] MarkZ Haa.... I could list another dozen events... have you heard anything about the meeting between the Kurds and Baghdad on article 140, HCL etc

[MarkZ] gatorguy yes but we should get into that tomorrow. there is way too much going on in the rooms right now to throw more at them.

 [gatorguy] MarkZ Gotcha

[K Boom] MarkZ - in the remaining process- are we reliant on GOI or CBI to take specific action?

[MarkZ] K Boom yes and no, we just need them to say their lines when it is time which is NO problem at all.
They are past ready.

[justincase] MarkZ - i just tuned in. Did you say Bella's post has merit or not? ty

[MarkZ]
Bella's wasn't smoke, it just does not have the impact some attached to it believe. Arrrgghhh If I could name names and say more this would be so much easier! The best way I can put it and not over step my bounds is to simply say it is NOT relevant to the completion of the event.

[Readynow] MarkZ, ty for giving some background to all of this. Some don't understand what has had to happen to get us here

[MarkZ] Readynow We should have background classes for those that really want the whole truth and normal chat time for those that just want the rate and date. :)

[K Boom] MarkZ-
boiling it down- WE just want to exchange our currency- enjoy life and PIF generously. Are the 'bigger picture' issues the cause of squabbles, or does it pertain to rates & exchange processes.

[MarkZ] K Boom a little of both but mostly it was people that think they should go first finding out the world is a changing.

[gatorguy] MarkZ I really like the idea the ISX is going international July 1.. would you agree that the ISX needs a reality rate to go live internationally?

[MarkZ] gatorguy
absolutely

[gatorguy] MarkZ I also like the idea that the Minister of defense for Iraq said it would cost 700 trillion dinar to support the military... Iraq didn't print 700 Trillion dinar... something in the value of the Dinar has to change.. heck we are sending the F-16s, drones and Apache's

[MarkZ] gatorguy
That is hard to pay for with worthless money....

 [stthomas cowboy] MarkZ How many rates will there be for the VNN?

[MarkZ] stthomas cowboy I don't know yet

[Nana] MarkZ I listened to the links you posted and feel like a dummy that I didn't already know all of it ... the Farm Claims, etc. I can't believe what our "leaders" have gotten away with! No wonder the RV/GRC hasn't already taken place! The Galactics had better step in and help us! We are just too dumbed down!

 [K Boom] MarkZ- I am ready for the changing world- and understand the reluctance of the current PTB to let go. So how can those soon to be OUT continue to get their way vs. the incoming NEW? Rhertoical - but this continues to baffle me. Any comment?

 [SpecialAgentGibbs] Said it before folks.... what is upon us is a social revolution

[scarlet77] MarkZ thank you for all your info over the years and so glad they are not making you remain silent now.

[MarkZ] scarlet77
I am flirting with the razors edge on what I am posting, They correct me if I step too far out though. :)

[wingnaprayer] MarkZ It has been said that our system may have to crash to force this in...or the republic in...is this part of that scenario?

[MarkZ] wingnaprayer I do not think it will have to happen.

 [gatorguy] MarkZ The 100 million Dinar question... Maliki in or out as PM IYO?

[MarkZ] gatorguy There is a couple of if then statements attached to that question. We really should chat outside of the chat boards. You have a good mind for this.

[gatorguy] MarkZ What do you think about Dubai going guns blazing into Kurdistan with investing and diplomatic ties?

[MarkZ] gatorguy That kurdistan has a lot of oil..... I know it is a short answer

[gatorguy] MarkZ Kurdistan can be the next Dubai and they know it.. The kurds are more advanced in banking etc than Baghdad.

[Nana] MarkZ When I read the BellaGrits post, I thought of MC, Lee and wonder if they are involved in the withdrawal. In the post it did say it was a Patriotic U. S. Citizen. Can you comment on this??

[MarkZ]
Nana hahaha I can but said I wouldn't. Mr C, Leo, and the rest of that crew are not part of any withdrawal. That is about as much as I can say.

[MrT] MarkZ If there was a war crime case at the Hague, and settlements were awarded but not received, is there a chance that it will be paid out after all this is said and done? This is a personal question

[MarkZ] MrT
A MOST excellent chance.

[gatorguy] MarkZ I think the language law was more than just a "PRIDE" thing for Kurdistan...

[MarkZ] gatorguy Iraq could be two nations or better yet a UK type of untied kingdoms etc. It is a logical way to deal with the tribes there.

 [gatorguy] MarkZ bingo!!!!!

[gatorguy] MarkZ There are articles out stating there is actually an oportunity for 4 CBI's in Iraq in the different regions..

 [Nana] MarkZ What a roller coaster ride today . . . first WildDuck took us to the stratosphere and then BellaGrits took us to the depths of the ocean. I came in late to Chat. Do you still feel we are very close, such as this weekend?

[MarkZ] Nana
Very close. This weekend would require an enormous amount being accomplished in short order though.

[MrT] MarkZ You don't know how you just made my day cause it is bigger for me than I could of  ever dreamed of with a gcr

 [MarkZ] MrT That is part of why this process has taken so long. So many parts to integrate.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] MarkZ Not a bad idea, might be just the thing for the USA as well

[MarkZ] SpecialAgentGibbs I will move to texas then. :)

 [ischmahsman] MarkZ..I could see it Actually being three nation

[Nana] MarkZ
I can wait for our blessings but I can't wait for us to get our country back along with our liberties and justice for all! Amen!

[stthomas cowboy] MarkZ I think the reason you have had several questions regarding Tonys call today is that he said they came close to begin to name names of those causing delays

 [MarkZ] stthomas cowboy ahhh. I have REALLY been fighting that urge. :)

[sananddan24] MarkZ when should we expect our emails?

[MarkZ] sananddan24
ask me Sunday, I should have a solid idea by then.

[goddess] MarkZ - I so wish everyone could just spill the beans !!

[MarkZ] goddess
We could stall it if we did but trust me, if they stall much longer it will be damn the torpedos and we will all squeel.

 [notsoguru] MarkZ what is truly left to be done if you can say?

[MarkZ] notsoguru
The execution of the gold treaty so we can reset our treasury then rv

 [tc0043] MarkZ What is their motivation to stall it continually?

[MarkZ] tc0043 change, people hate change

[SpecialAgentGibbs] MarkZ The Chronicles Of Deliverance?

[MarkZ] SpecialAgentGibbs
yes

[superbiz] MarkZ are the stallers still stalling and creating chaos??

[MarkZ] superbiz
no, they are like three year olds pitching a tantrum. It doesn't change the inevitable.

 [ChildOfGod] MarkZ I thought you said it was done last year

[MarkZ] ChildOfGod
It was agreed to, now we await execution of it.

 [notsoguru] MarkZ I thought the signing was done so do you mean the actual movement of funds?

[gatorguy] MarkZ Do you feel that the fact every Iraqi politician runs to Iran for support is an issue for the USA

[MarkZ] gatorguy It could be depending on how we handle our foreign policy after this.

[believeinangels] Mark do you think we will wait until middle of June ?

[MarkZ] believeinangels
worst case maybe.

[gatorguy] MarkZ Whats the word on the VND...

 [norm] i wish i can wake up sunday with new rates on un and cbi lol

[norm] be like xmas

 [MarkZ] gatorguy
It looks awesome. I wish I had spent as much on it as I did dinar.

[Tbirdd] MarkZ---isnt USA obligated to do its part for Iraq by THEIR 6/1??

[MarkZ] Tbirdd They extended it to mid month

[lilypad] MarkZ, have you actually seen the screens with the rates at the banks?

[MarkZ] lilypad
I will get some folks in serious doo doo if I answer that!

[MarkZ] Speaking of eating I made dinner while G64 was in the room and never had chance to eat it. I am going to pop it in the micro and eat now. See you all tomorrow as long as the black SUV's stay away.... :) See you all tomorrow.

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[Tbirdd] Markz---what time tomorrow---appx...

 [MarkZ] Tbirdd noonish EDT I think

[superbiz] MarkZ gn thanks for answering our questions


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