TNT call notes ct-2014
Tony: Good morning,
TNT. It's Wednesday, October 8, 2014. I don’t know how we got here, but
here we are! We have some excellent information
and justification, things you can see for yourself. Before we get
started, those with your hand up, if you have questions – if I have talked to
you in the last month please put you hand down, so others have a chance to talk
and ask their questions. I would greatly appreciate that, so I don’t have
to be the bad guy and take your hand down for you.
I don’t think everyone
fully understands what our site is about. I have some really good
information, and I hope you will understand that and our time together, and
about the government and so on. Everyone has their own opinion about what
we should and shouldn’t’ do and what direction we should go in. I constantly get emails, calls and texts from people
about what I should and shouldn’t do, say, etc. [Note: email
paraphrased.]
Good morning. I
appreciate all that you do. You are probably feeling a little lonely
right now. I want to send this quick email as it appears this is a giant
circle. Monday’s call sets the table for the next two days, and
Wednesday’s call does the same, and Friday’s call sets the table for the weekend.
(Yes, that is what we do – giving you the information as we get it.)
Don’t you think you should look at your intel. You appear to shielding
some organization that is setting you up. You don’t have an NDA now, you
should tell what you can. You should give us the names of those holding
us up, and that might break the logjam. I believe it’s President Obama
and his staff. What say you?
I understand the
frustration, and yes, I suspect these holdups have been designed but there was
lack of preparation combined with miscalculation. But the situation changes all the time, and it can
change from an office with five people down to someone blowing up a bank in the
street. Anything can affect the whole equation – or even where a particular
incident took place. It could affect the whole thing! People have
to understand that these things happen and they have a domino effect.
It’s not about shielding an organization…
This writer is saying I’m
shielding an organization, and I OWE it to you all to… Let’s say that this
is true. If there were actually an organization telling me what to
do and say… and I have received death threats and threats against my family,
and you say I owe you? My name is the one that’s out there and the
intelligence agencies are investigating whacko people who are pushing me when
I’m already putting myself and my family at risk, for something I’m doing for
free, that is taking me away from my family, and it this were true, you want me
to go against that organization so that you can get paid tomorrow and go about
your life? If that was the situation, that wouldn’t make sense for me to
do that, would it?
That is not the situation.
We are getting information from a whole lot of places, and what we have today
NOBODY knows but us, and we are putting it out on the internet for you.
Other people in other countries have put themselves and their families on the
line to give us the is intel. And you want us to
put them on the line, just so you can get paid? I don’t know
how you can even ask that! People are putting
their careers on the line to get this information for you, and I thank them for
their sacrifice publicly. I wanted to read that so you have a better
understanding of what this is about.
In another email, someone
said that we need to see both sides, and really understand what we are going
through to get this information to you. Some have already paid with their
careers.
DC: this
is a teaching moment. Those folks who write like that: we don’t owe you
anything. This was a volunteer job. I thought it would be two weeks, and
it’s been 18 months, and four years for Tony. If it’s this aggravating
for you, just go to someone else. Other people are trying to help,
too, with their sources. Whether our information is similar or not, they
are trying to help people as well. You can make your own decision who to
listen to. If you can’t deal with the dinar gurus, you’re going to
have trouble dealing with the money, too. There IS not cabal;
if you think there is, you have psychological issues. Yes,
there are powerful people behind the scenes, but most of them are elected
officials with constraints on what they do. This was supposed to be
very simple, and they have turned it into a massively complex problem that is
hard to contain and hard to get information about. We are not
protecting anyone. We do pay attention to people who ask us NOT
to say certain things, because we don’t want to hurt those who are giving us
intel. We respect that they have a good opinion that
possibly we don’t understand yet. So we might say there was a meeting, and this
is what happened, without say who. Sometimes we just forget, there are so
many details.
Finally, it was never intended for 5-6
million people benefit from this. This is why there
are so many issues, and so many people trying to help out. That’s why we have
so many sources – they are trying to help out, and they know we can feed this
info to you all.
Tony: This is punch and
counter-punch, and people will try to change it to their advantage, because
that is what they do. It’s
not always about US. We hear situations about us, but
this is about our entire country and global economics.
It’s not about trying to stop us
from getting paid? A year ago, we fought the good fight and
they compromised to let us in. They made mistakes in the past
and probably now, too, but we are just getting the information and hear it is
getting closer and closer. We are going through this
today, and learning this lesson in global/US/financial politics gives us all
this knowledge that you wouldn’t have if this happened in 24 hours if we
weren’t here. There is nothing wrong with the other sites
just keeping you up with the RV, because that is what they do. We are doing more than that here.
The other side of the coin is
this: every day we go back and forth, and we all emotional by now.
I got this other message on the site to “Tony, the RV man”. Pam, can you
read this? [I can barely hear Pam. I think it’s saying
that Tony is giving us education as well as information and the writer
appreciates his dedication, the time spent, and all the BS he’s had to wade
through.] This was for Tony, Pam, DC, the entire intel group,
the people in Iraq and all 47 countries and 11 agencies that listen to this
call. This is for everyone whose names we don’t know, who all work to put
this information together. They are going through the same sacrifices
to family/career.
They listen to our calls. We
get feedback, sometimes while we are still on the calls. We are
respectful of that. They listen to ALL our calls,
even when I call my wife or kids. It’s part of what we signed up for by
doing this call. Our NDA is going to be for the next 15
years. You guys can just get your money and get on with your lives;
for us, because of this insight into what is going on, we will be
under the microscope for the next 15 years. And then others
put out posts that are just about Tony? They are not putting out bank
info, investment info, anything that will actually help you with exchange!
Right now we have 35,000
people on this call. Maybe 10% of them are really thinking about this
information and how to deal with it.
We are all
excited today! DC?
DC: Sorry I missed the last call. There are wonderful
things happening in Iraq. On their television, they are describing the
lower denomination notes, and their new coins. Those are being
distributed in the markets as well as the banks and exchange centers.
Many have taken in their cards and asked for cash, so they need the
smaller notes. Not everyone has their cards loaded yet, but the actual
dinar notes are now live. This means that the dinar has really been
revalued, because otherwise a 1 dinar note or coin would be worthless.
Outside the main
centers, some do not yet have their cards. The Qi cards are tied to
the bank accounts. Many didn’t trust Maliki, his government and
the banks, so they didn’t fill out the right forms, prove who they are,
etc. A lot did, and those folks now have money. Those who didn’t
are now hearing from their family members, and they are applying for their
cards now and proving their identity, etc. That is what’s going on
throughout the country, and it might take a few months for that to be complete.
They are not going to give more money to people who have ten cards, obviously.
On
television they will also be giving a major speech about economic reform, and the fact that it is
concluding – tomorrow morning. That is all public
knowledge. Most cards have been loaded back through
February. That happened on 1. October. Three
weeks before they started saying the economic reform will happen soon.
Then they said the cards would be loaded 1. October. This actually
happened for those who already had their cards – they were loaded with royalty
income and back pay, at a rate of $3.58. Some were not seeing
it, and they came back and loaded more in the ensuing afternoon, evening, and
the next few days. Most who have the cards have already been
notified and given full access. If it were me, I’d be at the
bank the next minute checking this, and that is why there were lines out the
bank. People were pulling cash out right and left, and that’s
why they needed the lower denominations. The merchants have
changed their prices. On television they continue to announce that this will be
done on Wednesday, then on Thursday (tonight, tomorrow morning). It’s on the
news, in public.
Tony: So on Monday they
released the rest of the ‘new currency’, and it’s in the hands of the people,
not just the banks. Everyone is
anticipating the big announcement at 10am their time. This whole process from the 1st to today is what they
wanted to do as a “slow rollout”. This was the plan over there. Even
though the plan didn’t work perfectly, and they wanted to do it in 72 hours,
like they want to do here, there has been a plan, and it’s been a nine-day
process. They chose to do it over the holiday period…
DC: … that’s not what they were waiting on, but it turned out that way, and
because it was close enough to the Eid, they decided to ease their way into it
over the holiday. This was a massive change for Iraq, and
they wanted to do it at a smooth pace. They wanted
to do it quicker, but BIS and IMF asked for it to be rolled out more slowly.
In terms of folks trying to screw this up, they have already slowed it
down so much that nobody can really mess with it any longer. The
coins are out, the Qi cards and bank accounts are set up, so there’s not much
left to do or that can cause issues at this point. That’s a wonderful
thing for us.
Tony: By doing what they did over the
holiday, they also let the world know for sure that Iraq IS actually doing this
every day and seeing the results. They cannot wait another six months
because all hell would break loose. Celebrations
are scheduled again, and their people in the
street are anticipating this at 10 o’clock tomorrow. If it
doesn’t happen, there will be hell to pay in Iraq!
DC: They
had parliamentary meetings during the holiday and laws are being passed. There
were also a lot of family and neighborhood events. There have
been successful hits against ISIL. They are bringing in additional
equipment like Apaches, so they now have close air support that they’ve been
asking for. This is great for keeping ISIL contained.
Tony: Iraq is ready! By
doing the slow public rollout, that is forcing everyone else to accept this
right now.
DC: If there is more delay, there will be real problems.
It’s coming! There is still a lot of back and
forth about timing, in terms of the global adjustments – whether it’s loaded on
Forex or not. We just don’t know; it’s still being discussed
by IMF, BIS and all the rest of the financial community. US banks
are ready and exhausted, same thing with the UST. They have been running
skeleton crews, watching the phones and the monitors, ready to pull everyone in
once this goes rather than having people sitting there doing nothing.
Tony: Even though I told you
the 10 o’clock announcement for the public deal, there is a backup time for
that, if necessary. Also, we mentioned
before that the US has $1,000 bill in circulation, and a $10,000 as well.
Those are still in circulation although only some people are allowed
to use them. Yesterday there was a news item that
Floyd Merryweather bet on the Seattle teams, won both bets and won about 8.1
million dollars. He accepted his payment in $100,000 bills, “only
available to the extremely rich.” So they are still using them.
All the stuff we tell you
about Iraq – we
have people who are looking at this on television. If
you want proof, call the television and cable companies and tell them you want
a subscription to Iraqi television. Then go look at the Iraqi television
stations. They can do that here in North Carolina.
If you need proof, go find it for yourself, just like we do. Some things
you need to do so you believe it and understand it yourself. But it’s a great day and we have
some really good information. Let’s go to questions:
303 caller:
[Appreciation} Been following Tony since PTR… We are purchasing
dinar in my name and we now have an LLC. For tax purposes, what is my
scenario… just asking your opinion. How do I go about transferring my
currency before we exchange. The receipts are in my name; what
mechanism do I use, and what are the tax implications?
DC: You can put in there many different ways. You
have decided if it is contributing capital, in which case there are firms.
Basically, you need to write a letter, dated, and say you are giving this to
the company. You can buy it from yourself and give a loan-back:
“For X dollars, I’m paying myself back for this currency.” The rules there are
clear and simple. You can do spring boards from another company, start
another LLC, lots of ways to deal with that. I’m not a financial advisor,
but I’ve done it all sorts of ways.
Tony: Do this BEFORE
the RV – you can call an attorney, most will give you a free consultation
especially if you offer to employ them afterwards. They can advise you
better than we can.
Caller: Can I create a
pledge letter? Would that work?
DC: I don’t know – ask an
attorney.
913 caller: I’m trying
to get these busses loaded in Texas, so send me the info from that terrible
email so I can get him off the bus! I love how diplomatic you are – I
don’t have that in me! This is what I intend to do with this money.
There is a group in Iraq called Pre-emptive Love, and it helps children with
heart defects because of chemical poisoning. They train Iraqi doctors to
help the children. There is also the A-21 campaign that helps to abolish
human trafficking of various kinds. My question is this: there was
article in the Times saying the IMF has scaled back worldwide economic growth
for the next year or two. Is this the case?
DC: They
have a lot of economists who get together and run fancy models. They
cannot tell those experts to trust them, that the US and Germany and others are
going to double their growth because the average economist doesn’t know about
the RV. So what they do is to revise their plans, and when this goes
through they will revise those plans upwards. “Because of Iraq, we now
believe that the global economy will in fact expand again.”
Caller; When I have a
melt-down day, I watch West Wing. The advisers on that show used to work
in the White House and it’s a miracle that anything gets done at all!
Tony: It’s meant to be
educational. My biggest surprise today is that, based on what you want to
do, you are even from Texas!
Caller: I learned about
this at church one day – the pastor was away, the man in the pulpit was ex-CIA,
had worked in the Middle East, and he told us all about this! [Laughter]
623 caller: I’m also a
first-time caller, too! I’ve been listening to you for 16 months.
With my money, 90% will be invested in real estate, and with that income I will
be helping orphans and single mothers. Several months ago you
talked about two contract rates, the highest one taxed at 100%, second rate at
50% and the lowest no taxable at all. [Note, this would probably be 100%
of the capital gains tax assessment, NOT 100% of the exchange!]
DC: We believe those rate levels are still there. We don’t know how big the pool is, and nobody knows
exactly what the tax rates will be. However, the highest contract rate
probably will have higher taxes, too. Nobody is sure until this is
announced publically.
Caller: Are we now in Plan B?
DC: Plan B meaning the rest of the world is forcing the US’s
hands? As I
understand it, no. Keep in mind that since August,
the US has been supportive. Since the Iraqi RV, no one has
been forcing anyone to do anything.
Tony: I heard that last
week another country would do something, and last night there was a rumor China
would blow up the derivatives, but those are not happening. The US is supporting
Iraq and the global RV, it’s just taking longer than we expected.
Caller: I saw an
$100,000 bill once at the bank. I used to have a 1,000 and 5000 dollar
bill, too.
Tony: They are still in
circulation including the 10,000 bill. You can actually order them from
the bank, if they approve. They had to get them in to pay that man for
his bet!
Caller: DC, do you
think this RV will happen within the next week? Or will it change again?
DC: I really do think so. I’d be willing to bet a thousand dollars on it!
That’s why we spent so much time explaining about the cards and the lower
denominations on this call. I don’t believe there is an absolutely
deadline, but looking at everything – the notes, coins, changed prices in the
market – there
has been an RV. On this side, you could delay it a few
hours, maybe, but realistically speaking, there is not a lot of wiggle room.
Caller: I have been
donating for the last few months – do you still need donations?
Tony: Yes, we need them until this
happens… I appreciate that!
DC, with this slow rollout,
how can they announce this ten days ago without people buying up all the
currency in the world and exchanging it?
DC: How do you keep the currency dealers at 1166, and have Iraq
at $3.58? First you watch it like a hawk, and you close the dealers
down. They can have a static website, they can have a limit on
transactions, and they can pull in the groups, because we are the only ones who
are crazy enough to do it! That’s why we have NDAs, and it’s a pretty
good way to handle it.
Tony: For the last eight days, could
they have been using those cards internationally, so that it is international
but no access, and then make all of it accessible at the same time?
That’s what they may be doing at this very moment! [DC agrees.]
609 caller: When you said the
announcement is at 10am, is that Iraqi time?
Tony: there is an announcement by the CBI at 10 o’clock tomorrow
morning because the economic reform will
be done at 1am. If that announcement doesn’t
happen, there is a backup time that I’m not going to give out. That
is a couple of hours from now. That is just what is in the official schedule,
and I don’t know if/what anything changes.
Caller: Will you post that on
Twitter?
Tony: I’m sure it
will be all over, but yes, I could do that.
240 caller: The lady
who called earlier about exchanging into her LLC, do you suggest doing that
first? Or after you exchange into USD?
DC: I have LLCs and it’s always better to put assets into other companies rather than
your own name, so long as you still control it. I’m not an attorney, but that’s my understanding.
Tony: When you
put it in that LLC, it is no longer yours. If you sell the company or get
sued or you have partners, that belongs to them because it belongs to the
company. That’s why I do
trusts, because they stay my trusts.
DC: there is a time and place for LLCs, trusts and corporation.
A good attorney is worth your weight in gold.
Caller: I have an LLC, and
didn’t know how that would work out in terms of withdrawing funds.
DC: It should be fine – you can buy things, give money to
yourself, etc.
Tony: So if I put money
in the LLC, do I have to pay taxes twice?
DC: Most LLCs are pass through structures, so that you pay the
taxes and it can still pay for your office, car, travel and all the rest, so
long as it is documented. LLCs, trusts etc., are not scary. They
are used every day and are used all the time so long as you understand the
rules. That’s why I like to have a good attorney to keep you
updated on the rules. For example a few years ago the IRS cracked down on
office expenses as an S-Corp. Our understanding is that you will pay
about the same taxes if you hold the currency personally or with a pass-through
corporation. You will pay 2% exchange fee, and that and travel
or business expenses are deductible (say, if you have to fly somewhere to
consult a financial adviser). It’s always better to have a tax write-off rather
than have it in your name.
Caller: Did you say you
can have different appointments at different banks?
Tony: You’ll have to ask them
that when you call the 800 numbers.
617 caller: I’m a
little confused. Last year, the government exchanged their friends and
families; how can that happen if the rate wasn’t out there? How is
this possible?
DC: I
don’t think this is right, but this is how it happened. They
did forward-based contracts, where they would trade your dinars for the
amount they believed it would be worth in the future. From October on, that’s what
they did. Then in March and April, they did
some RI things done where they could get the CBI to honor the new rate. That’s
how they could get their exchanges. Is that right? No, and we’ve complained about
it constantly.
Caller: Now, we are
waiting for Iraq to finish giving all their people before it comes to us?
DC: No. Some Iraqis just didn’t apply for their
cards. They always knew they would have some late believers, and it will
take a month or more to set them up. We are only waiting for the ‘end of the economic reforms’
and on Iraqi television they have said that this is tomorrow.
The lower denominations and coins, and we know people who are actually using
them!
Caller: Zimbabwe has
come out with a different currency; will that affect our Zim currency?
DC: I
don’t know what new Zim currency you are talking about. We don’t have the
same connections in Zimbabwe that we do in Iraq, but we have been told throughout
this entire process that our 2008/2009 Zim notes should be okay.
407 caller: I thought
the rollout started last October! Tell them we’re ready for your
cards! Thank you, anyone listening from Iraq – we know you all need this,
and we only see a portion of what you are going through trying to build a new
government. Our prayers and thoughts are with you and hope our government
is supporting you. We want to celebrate with you! DC, how much are
you willing to bet this happens in the next week?
DC: I feel very good
about this. Everybody is
so frustrated and aggravated because it should have gone so many times.
However, the current pressure we’re seeing says so much more about
this going through this time. The cards are out, their prices
have changed, and that speaks louder than anything else.
Tony: Their public television is putting
this out every day, and you can’t do that
without a lot of negative repercussions if it doesn’t come through.
DC: And we’ve been seeing the cards, and the people who didn’t
believe in the cards are calling us, and comparing cards with their friends and
contacts, and all at $3.58, and getting cash for it. If it
were just from the banks, CBI or UST or committees, that’s one thing, but
all the Iraqis are saying the same thing, so it’s wonderful to
connect the dots.
A very few have been exchanging here, too, but only a few.
Caller: Tony, the only people
you owe anything to is your wife and family!
585 caller: How about a
little payback from Texas to California! [chit chat about
California] I got your tweets about the new currency rolling out and the
smaller denominations. So… late last week, we were told people were
seeing instructions on the television, etc. What curreny were they
receiving then?
Tony: Back in April
they let out the lower denominations in the marketplace: the 1, 2, 5, 25
dinar notes, and the fil also. On Sunday, they released the 50, 100, 500 dinar notes, to
complete the currency reform tomorrow.
Caller: So Iraq has
RVed in-country, and those who have Qi cards can travel and use those cards
internationally at the $3.58. How long can that situation last??
DC: That is the question. They are pushing the absolute
boundaries on this, and it’s wonderful to see the pressure on this. There
is not much time left.
Tony: So it
happened over the holidays when people were mostly at home, celebrating.
The lower denominations have been released so that when they make the official
announcement the new notes are already available. People in Iraq were
able to go to the bank, and it made sense for them to roll it in this fashion,
to me.
Caller: I am blind from
having encephalitic at age seven, which destroyed the nerves running back to
the brain. My eyes are fine, and I can donate them after my death, but
the nerves don’t work. The Lions Club bought my first Braille typewriter,
and I’m on my second Seeing-Eye dog. For my first dog, it cost a total of
$150 for travel expenses, so I want to donate to them. Family members
have served, so I want to donate to Wounded Warriors as well.
DC: One of my better friends is blind and there are amazing
things they can do now for optic nerve injuries; it’s great that you are
donating to those organizations!
Caller; Everyone teases
me because all my gizmos talk to me!
832 caller: The fact
that I got on the call show that this much be happening now! Tony, take
it a little easier on Texas, dude – I’m beginning to get a complex!
Remember, Texas may be the only state in the Union that will survive a zombie
apocalypse. I have a little confusion about the dong; there have been
a couple of things lately that maybe it won’t RV with the dinar…
DC: On the dong, specifically, Tony and I and our friends don’t’
have the same resources in Vietnam as we do in Iraq, but our banker
friends are saying that dong is always mentioned on the back screens and in the
meetings. It was planned to come in the second
basket originally, but too many people found out about it, so they had to bump
up the dong, zim and rupiah. So we get out information from the screens and they are
happening together.
Tony: It’s high! I could tell
you the latest rate, but then you’d want to sell your dinar!
Caller: I got into it
too late to buy dinar. I do think this is happening, and I want to help a
lot of people. When this comes through, this is what I will do. I saw the
video of the homeless guy who was given cash by the fellow who won the
lottery. I saw that and thought “That could be me”, and if this doesn’t
happen soon it will be me! [Appreciation]
DC: Sorry I missed Monday, due to work. Iraq is
absolutely ready as they said on television; this is
all public information that you can check out for yourself. These speeches tomorrow are
basically the finalization of the economic reform. That
can happen at any time; the rest of the world and working on timing.
Don’t be shocked
if there is a slow roll out in the US because they may do it a little
differently than we anticipated, but it is happening.
Pam: It sounds like what we
have been waiting for. Get your professionals lined up, take care of
yourselves first, and enjoy the journey.
Ray: Not a whole lot
left to say! Excitement is here, it’s everywhere. Continue to enjoy
your Wealth-seeking Wednesday!
Tony: The announcement is scheduled at
10am Iraqi time tomorrow. It could be delayed, but there is a backup time. They have made enough things
public that this information is there on the television.
It’s better to BE ready than to get ready. If we have to do
another call on Friday we will – we don’t want to – but I still look to the
weekend because it makes sense to do it that way. But it could be
earlier, as DC thinks. Take all the pieces, compare, and see what makes
sense to you. Enjoy the rest of your day!
