Friday, November 29, 2013

DISTURBING TRUTH BEHIND OBAMA'S TRAVEL MADNESS

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Supporters of Barack Obama tout his dedication to the responsibilities of the presidency by noting that he had taken 96 days of vacation at the point in his term that President George W. Bush had taken a reported 335.
But they admit that 51 of Bush’s trips were to his Texas ranch, while records show that Obama’s destinations have ranged from exotic European and African locales to pricey digs to Hawaii, where he’s sometimes traveled separately from his family, effectively doubling transportation costs for taxpayers.
The records released are partial, meaning no firm travel-expense total can be assembled. But individual cases are revealing.
For example, the Washington Post in June revealed the Obama family’s African vacation was slated to cost between $60 million-$100 million, according to a “confidential internal planning document.”
Part of the expense the purchase of nearly 4,000 “room-nights” for one stop in Johannesburg and close to $2 million for car rentals.
The cost of trips that are purely personal, such as daughter Malia Obama’s 2012 spring break trip to Mexico that took $115,500 from the U.S. Treasury, are not always fully disclosed.
And the Obama family has made many trips that are a hybrid of personal and business.
While it seems that members of the media are not generally asking pertinent questions about such travel and expenses, the administration also has provided information on an inconsistent basis.
In some cases, federal entities such as the State Department, which arranges the logistics of executive branch travel, have thwarted efforts to discover more about the government’s accomodations, transportation and related expenses.
Indeed, WND has been waiting more than a year and a half for the State Department to reveal details of a mysterious stay at the super-luxurious Hotel Hessischer Hof in Frankfurt, Germany.
Although State on Nov. 17, 2011, had uploaded to the FedBizOpps database a contract awarded to the hotel for $52,000, it released no details explaining the contract. State acknowledged receiving the Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, request, but otherwise has remained silent on the matter.
It remains unclear who may have stayed at the luxury hotel, as the award date is not necessarily indicative of when the government actually used the facility.
Vice President Joseph Biden’s wife, Jill Biden, and Chelsea Clinton, daughter of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, traveled to Frankfurt just months prior to the notice. However, there is no record of where they stayed as they cheered for Team USA during the Women’s World Cup Final.
The media lack of interest in pertinent details of administration travel is startling.
“Is the president reading any books on his vacation?” one unidentified reporter asked White House Press Secretary Jay Carney aboard Air Force One as Obama headed to the exclusive Martha’s Vineyard resort scene last summer.
“I expect he will, and I will see what I can find out,” Carney said in response to the softball question. “Most of the many hours I spent with him in the last couple of weeks, when he’s been reading, he’s been reading briefing materials.”
While it often takes FOIA requests and lawsuits to obtain information about the vacations of POTUS (president of the United States), FLOTUS (first lady) and VPOTUS (vice president), CNN’s “The Situation Room” with Wolf Blitzer earlier this year tooted its own horn for purportedly finding a seemingly once-in-a-lifetime document about such trips.
CNN bragged about its supposed findings in the broadcast version of the report. In contrast, the online text version deferred, erroneously, to the Weekly Standard for breaking the story – even though U.S. Trade & Aid Monitor (with which this writer is affiliated) reported on the Biden trip Feb. 23, nearly a month ahead of either media outlet.
In that report, it was revealed the State Department spent $585,000 on hotel rooms and racked up $322,000 on intra-country transportation costs.
Blitzer, nonetheless, expressed wonder at CNN’s supposedly “rare” uncovering of detailed documents specific to VPOTUS Biden’s one-day jaunt to Paris.
Blitzer and CNN White House Correspondent Brianna Keilar on March 22 bantered back and forth about their “amazing, amazing discovery.”
Blitzer went so far as to claim he had never seen such information in the seven years he had covered the White House.
Keilar added that she personally conducted a search of the FedBizOpps contractor database. Data on the publicly accessible source was limited to Biden accommodations specific to the Parisian trip and a corresponding stop in London, she claimed.
“We’re getting an extremely, extremely rare glimpse at how much it costs when Vice President Joe Biden goes traveling,” Blitzer proclaimed in the broadcast. “Brianna, we’ve covered a lot of presidential and vice presidential trips, but this is pretty amazing.”
“It kind of makes you wonder if this information was put out accidentally,” Keilar later said. “I did a search myself of the past 365 days where obviously the president and vice president have gone on other foreign trips and I could find no contracts in addition for any of those visits.”
An immediate follow-up search by this writer – followed up by a more recent search by WND – revealed that Keilar either did not actually look or, at the very least, did not look closely at the records.
Also readily available were hotel and transportation records of the Obama and Biden trip to Colombia that year – the scandal-plagued journey to South America in which Secret Service agents were caught patronizing prostitutes while guarding the president.
The trip called for the rental of 1,046 hotel rooms at 13 separate establishments in and around Cartegena, Colombia, where the sixth annual Summit of the Americas took place.
While the overall cost to taxpayers is unknown, the rooms and cars alone cost nearly $1 million.
A simple keyword search using terms such a “POTUS,” “VPOTUS” and “presidential” quickly turn up the records, which separately include the cost of hotels and limos as well as a “justification for other than full and open competition” document governing State’s selection of vendors.
Conservative media generally have acknowledged that Bush took more vacation days than Obama but argue that he often did so at his own expense and at personal or family owned locations, where at times he hosted world leaders.
Left-leaning media have retorted that – despite taking 51 of those trips to his Texas ranch – Bush had vacationed for a total of 335 days, contrasted to Obama’s 96 days at a similar point in his second term.
The Washingtonian earlier this year conducted a profile on Mark Knoller, CBS News correspondent and “unofficial White House statistician,” to find out more about presidential facts in general.
It attempted to glean critical statistics from Knoller by posing questions, for instance, about Obama’s dog, Bo, including how many times the pet had been aboard the president’s helicopter, Marine One.
According to the article, Knoller admitted that despite the voluminous tidbits of data that he has amassed, he had no knowledge of Bo’s flight information.
Despite its discovery, the Post at times appeared apologetic, claiming that “the preparations appear to be in line with similar travels in the past,” and that, in advance of the trip, “the federal agencies charged with keeping him safe won’t be taking any chances.”
WND separately located numerous procurement documents detailing some expenses for the Obamas’ African travel and accommodations. Though the administration in late September and early October posted records for the Obama’s stay in South Africa, it did not disclose records for their stay in Senegal and Tanzania.
It cost an estimated $550,000 to house a “Senior High Level USG [U.S. government] Principal” at the Radisson Blu Sandton in Johannesburg, South Africa,” whom the document did not explicitly identify – despite the FedBizOpps page referring to the procurement as “POTUS Accommodation.”
The no-bid justification called for “2,200 lodging room nights” for this unnamed official for “June 12, 2013-July 11, 2013.”
Separately, it cost another $500,000 for “1,700 lodging room nights” during the same period at the Table Bay Hotel overlooking Cape Town Harbor.
Despite the documents’ secretive nature, even the White House made no secret about the POTUS/FLOTUS hybrid vacation and official business visit to Africa during that period, as Michelle Obama kept an online journal about their journey across the continent.
The U.S. Department of State made arrangements with multiple transportation vendors for the South African presidential visit that totaled close to $2 million.
Contractors included Europcar ($702,342), Kwathlano ($500,000) and Cabs Car Hire ($185,000).
A separate $503,846 contract was awarded to Europcar for SUVs, pickup trucks, vans, buses, box trucks and “large capacity vehicles.”
Judicial Watch has been building a dossier on Obama family vacations, obtaining documents that otherwise had been publicly released and also suing the government when it withholds information.
The organization has chronicled the cost of Obama family trips, particularly those of first lady Michelle Obama and her children unrelated to official White House business.
Her 2010 trip to Spain cost taxpayers $487,585, the group discovered.
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said at the time, “The American people can ill afford to keep sending the first family on vacations around the globe. There needs to be greater sensitivity to the costs borne by taxpayers for these personal trips.
“It is hypocritical for President Obama to fire GSA officials for wasteful conference spending, while his family went on a luxury vacation in the Costa del Sol Spain that cost taxpayers nearly half-a-million dollars.”
Judicial Watch also has filed FOIA requests for, among others records, information about President Obama’s trip to Palm Springs, Fla., and “the simultaneous vacations of Michelle Obama and Joseph Biden in Aspen, Colorado.”
Although other publicly accessible records do not necessarily address presidential vacation-specific trips, they do indeed shed light on the cost of such standard globe-trotting in general.
Despite some gaps in the Obama trip record, a comprehensives search of FedBizOpps produces multiple records on the current administration’s travels.
On the other hand, it produces zero records for the George W. Bush administration, despite the database’s voluminous provision of federal procurement information extending back to the William Jefferson Clinton administration.
The following list offers a chronological record of what is publicly and readily available about the cost of Obama and Biden trips on primarily official business.
Obama’s 2009 trip to Germany included an estimated cost of $272,976 for rooms at Hotel Leonardo Weimar.
It took an additional $533,585 on that same journey for presidential accommodations – rooms, office space and parking spaces – at the Hotel Tascshenbergpalais Kampinski in Dresden.
One travel blogger describes the German luxury facility as a “Distinguished and elegantly restored 214-room hotel housed in the resurrected ruins of an 18th-century royal baroque palace, in the heart of a historic district adjacent to the famous Semperoper and Zwinger palace complex.”
It separately cost about the same amount for additional rooms at the Dresden’s Steigerberger Hotel de Saxe.
Obama, during his re-election campaign several years later, praised his union supporters in Ohio while on the re-election campaign trail because, he said, “It is unions like yours that helped to forge the basic bargain of this country – the bargain that built the greatest middle class and the most prosperous country and the most prosperous economy that the world has ever known.”
Part of that union bargain includes the ability of workers to save enough money to retire and take “maybe a vacation once in a while – nothing fancy, but you can enjoy your friends and your family.” Presumably that bargain does not include vacations in European palaces.
Due to “unusual and compelling circumstances,” the State Department awarded an approximately $3 million no-bid contract to secure rooms at Pittsburgh’s Omni William Penn Hotel and the Hilton Pittsburgh Hotel “to meet housing and security requirements for POTUS staff and DoS [Department of State] senior-level support staff” for Obama’s visit to the G20 Summit.
The contract arranged housing for about “1,000 officials and support staff from September 1, 2009 through September 26, 2009″ needing close access to the David Lawrence Convention Center, where the Group of Twenty Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors, or G20, event was held.
Obama’s trip to France to commemorate the Normandy D-Day invasion cost $870,868 for single rooms, suites and control rooms at the Hotel Westin in Paris between May 25 and June 8, 2009.
It cost another $343,643 for additional rooms at the Mercure Omaha Beach and four other hotels in the region from May 24 to June 7.
Yet another $166,824 helped house 80 Secret Service agents at the five-star Hotel du Louvre June 1 to June 8 during the Normandy event.
The president in 2010 traveled to Prague to sign a nuclear arms-reduction treaty with then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.
The trip led to an $811,000 bill at the Hotel Hilton Prague for 1,533 single-room, single-occupancy room nights, 13 single-room, double-occupancy room nights, 64 suite room nights, 248 single offices, 12 suite offices, one “special use of an elevator, 100 late check-out fees [and] 126 room-emptying fees.”
Related accommodations at the Hotel Marriott B.H. Centrum in the Czech Republic fetched an estimated $163,000 for 287 single room nights and various conference rooms, electronic devices and late check-out fees.
Driving first lady Michelle Obama and other VIPs around Denmark to lobby – unsuccessfully – the International Olympics Committee to choose Chicago as the site of the 2016 Olympics was a boon for Copenhagen Limousine Services in 2009, which received an estimated $212,449 payment for its services.
The U.S. Department of State, however, did not release those records until 2010.
Judicial Watch separately uncovered an additional $467,175 in expenses related to the arrival of the president and his entourage. The group included Valerie Jarrett, a Chicago political hack who needed an “ethics waiver” to serve as Obama’s “Olympics czar” on behalf of Chicago, the group said. The president arrived in the Denmark capital toward the end of that campaign.
In December 2009, the president visited Copenhagen to attend Climate Change Conference: vehicle and driver rental services via Viking ($405,679), Copenhagen Limousine Service ($510,204) and Edelskvo Bus ($306,192).
The president and his staff also rented 90 rooms at Scandic Palace, Scandic Copenhagen and Scandic Front hotels ($1 million) and another 70 rooms at Scandic Syhavn ($195,183).
Additional records include:
The Warsaw, Poland, rental of 2,114 lodging room/nights cost $454,000 for an Obama stay May 27 and May 28, 2011, at the Warsaw Marriott Hotel as part of his multi-state trip to visit the leaders and citizens of England, France, Ireland and Poland.
Obama presented himself to the British people as “the grandson of a Kenyan who served as a cook in the British army,” while in Ireland he “drank a beer with the residents of Moneygall, birthplace of his maternal great-great-great-grandfather,” the Washington Post reported.
Oct. 28, 2010 – Nov. 11, 2010: Presidential visit to New Delhi, India, required 134 rooms and conference facilities at Taj Palace Hotel, cost: $203,853.
November 2010: Presidential stay at Shangri-La Hotel, Jakarta, Indonesia, requiring 450 sleeping rooms, offices and one-day ballroom rental, cost: $700,000.
August 2011: VPOTUS trip to China, Japan and Mongolia. Records available only for 1,601 room nights and conference rooms at Hotel Okura Tokyo, cost: $477,301.
May 26-27, 2011: G8 conference, Deuville, France, 3,498 hotel accommodations for POTUS at 10 different hotels, cost: $2 million. Estimated transportation package with Biribin Limousines: $992,400-$2,857,150.
Dec. 2-3, 2011: VPOTUS trip to Istanbul, Turkey, $475,000 for 218 rooms.
Feb. 21, 2012-March 8, 2012: VPOTUS trip to Mexico City, requiring 919 hotel room nights at Inmobiliaria Nacional Mexicana (Four Seasons Hotel), cost: $348,936.
March 13, 2012 to March 28, 2012: POTUS hotel room rental at Grand Hyatt Hotel for Nuclear Security Summit in Seoul, South Korea. Designated a “sensitive/secure package” and locked. Cost undisclosed.
June 2012 (specific rental dates not provided): POTUS attendance at G20 Summit, Los Cabos, Mexico. Estimated hotel room cost (through travel agency Turismo y Convenciones): $1,889,388-$2,078,327. Vehicle rentals (via Operadora Transtur): $630,760-$693,836.
November 2012 (specific rental dates not provided): Obama visit to Phnomn Penh, Cambodia. Raffles Hotel Royale; 895 room nights and several conference rooms. Cost: $400,000. Another 1,010 room nights at Sunway Hotel for an additional $400,000.
August 22, 2013: Presidential trip to Stockholm, Sweden. Total number of rooms: 121. Grand Hotel Stockholm and Lydmar Hotel. Estimated cost: $112,190 -$246,230.
The most recently published presidential travel records offer limited access.
Full records for Obama’s travel to the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, or APEC 2013, conference in Indonesia are not currently accessible.
Records exist under the headers of “Cargo trucks to support POTUS visits” and “Passenger car rental services for APEC 2013, Bali, Indonesia.”
Partial records come up during a search of FedBizOpps, but the entire package remains marked as “sensitive,” thereby requiring site registration.
Although this writer is a registered and validated user of the FedBizOpps and System for Award Management, or SAM, access remains blocked, with the error message “SAM Validation Required” popping up when the APEC records list appears during a database search.
Records of the presidential stay at Yokohama Grand InterContinental Hotel in Japan for APEC 2010 likewise are only partially accessible – and for some reason the three-year-old records remain marked as “sensitive.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/the-disturbing-truth-behind-obamas-travel-junkets/#3xFeKeCrcD2qcxOj.99

Angola Continues To Close Down Mosques, And Now Burns Qurans

This is what I call a 'smart move.'  Only wish ALL nations, especially America, would do this and ship them back to where they came from. Obviously Angola has had ENOUGH of their demonic killings and outrageous demands, etc.



Angola Continues To Close Down Mosques And Now Burns Qurans
By Theodore Shoebat
A recent report has come out saying that the Republic of Angola has closed down or destroyed most mosques in its country, and the crackdown continues.
Elias Isaac, country director of the Open Society Initiative of Southern Africa (Osisa), had this to say:
From what I have heard, Angola is the first country in the world that has decided to ban Islam … This is a crazy madness. The government is intolerant of any difference.
David Já, president of the Islamic Community of Angola (ICA), said: We can say that Islam has been banned in Angola.
Here is a video of a mosque in Angola being bulldozed:,go to link above.
There were 78 mosques in Angola, now they have been reduced to only a few, because most of them were closed down except the remaining number in the capital city of Luanda, and the only reason why they are still there is because of the world’s protest against the anti-Islamic policy. According to David Ja:
The mosques in Luanda were supposed to be closed yesterday but because of an international furore about reports that Angola had banned Islam, the government decided not to …So, at the moment, mosques in Luanda are open and people are going for prayers.
Also, according to Ja, the Angolan government began to shut down mosques in 2010, and they justified the measure by saying that Islam “was an invasion of Angolan culture and a threat to Christian values.”
And it most definitely is.
This month, according to the same Islamic leader, Angola shut down a mosque in Luanda and burned down 120 copies of the Quran.
This Angolan Inquisition (which I whole heartedly support), has been notifying mosques, ordering the Muslims to destroy them with the guarantee that they will be demolished anyway. As Ja said:
They usually issue a legal request for us to destroy the building and give us 73 hours to do so. Failure to do so results in government authorities doing it themselves.
This information is not only coming from Muslims, but a reputable and leading Angolan journalist named Rafael Marques de Morais, who has stated:
I’ve seen an order that says Muslims must destroy the mosques themselves and clear away the debris, or they will be charged for the cost of the destruction.
This is only the beginning of what is come, and that is, a war between Christendom and the empire of the crescent. I commend Angola for what it is doing, and I only hope that it will continue on and do the same for other dangerous and heretical groups (such as sodomites, and pro-abortion advocates).
If you think I am medieval in my thinking, I will say that this is not an insult. When the Albigensian gnostic heretics dominated Southern France, the Church did not tolerate them nor their false and wicked teachings, but launched a war on them and outlawed their false doctrines.
When the Bogomil gnostics overran Constantinople, the Eastern Orthodox Church did not suffer them to thrive or proselytize but suppressed them, all for the preservation of orthodoxy.
When Arianism (the rejection of the Trinity) arose, Constantine decreed that all Arian books must be burned, and many were thrown into the flames. It is only beneficial that works that promote the destruction and devaluing of human life are not tolerated or given liberty to, for we worship a God Who declared: “all the idols thereof will I lay desolate” (Micah 1:7).

As Christendom and Islam are at war, we must remember the Christians who are being brutally persecuted every day

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by N. Morganbeforeitsnews.com  We have seen bank account confiscations in other countries, like Cyprus. Will America be next? Would Americans stand by while their bank accounts and assets are pillaged by the Obama Regime? This is something we, who have bank accounts, must begin to consider. This regime is running out of options, for bilking money out of the government forum, so guess what is next? Our bank accounts! Here is how the problem works.  The Social Security Administration maintains a Death Master File which is then shared by a number of other government agencies including Medicare and the IRS.  When the SSA receives a notice that someone has died, they automatically enter the information into their master file without any verification of the information.  Once a death has been wrongfully entered into the system, it is very difficult to get it corrected because it has already been disseminated to other agencies.  Dr. Lawrence Huntoon, a neurologist from Derby, New York explained:“The problem is once wrong information gets into the electronic database, it’s very difficult to get it corrected or get it out of there.  What happens is the flawed data is now spread more efficiently among different agencies, and that’s not good.”However, if you ask the Social Security Administration about the accuracy of the Death Master File, they will admit that inaccuracy was built into the system.  One SSA employee explained:“We get criticized for not having all these records be accurate, and the fact is, they were never intended to be 100-percent accurate.”Huntoon shared what happened to one of his patients with WND.  An 80 year old female patient was declared dead by Medicare and the information was shared with other agencies through Obama’s central database system.  Consequently, Medicare denied all of her medical bills because they insisted she was dead.  Huntoon sent around 20 letters to Medicare stating that he is a board certified neurologist and that his patient was very much alive.  He explains the responses he received from Medicare:“Each time I contacted them, rather than accept my diagnosis that she was alive, they insisted that I, as a licensed physician in the State of New York, was wrong, and they were correct in determining the woman was dead.” So what happens if a person has been declared dead by the government and they go to the emergency room for treatment?  Most states have laws that say the emergency room must treat a person regardless, but treating someone previously declared dead could result in serious repercussions for the hospital, as explained by Huntoon:“A hospital could actually be accused of fraud by the federal government for providing care to a dead person.”In the case of his 80 year old patient, he ended up contacting his congressman in Washington who then went to Medicare and finally got the woman’s records corrected.  He didn’t say how long it took to completely filter through the system to everyone.Huntoon also described another problem with the central databases that involved his own mother-in-law:“My mother-in-law, who is in her 90s now, has it in her medical records that she is a smoker, but she has never smoked a day in her life.  This claim is now out there for doctors all across the country to see, despite it not being true.”“We’re beginning to see a pattern of incompetence here that is manifesting itself with the rollout of Obamacare and the website.  What is stunning is how they actually argue with you. Even when they are totally proven wrong, they never say they are sorry, because they aren’t.”So while our federal government vigorously protects the right of dead people to vote, they also vigorously defend their declaration of someone’s death even though the person is alive and walking around.  While they desperately need dead people’s votes, they also need to get living people off of the Medicare rolls so they don’t have to pay for their care.  It’s a hypocritical two-edged sword.



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Morocco Diary Chapter 1: A Rainy Day in Morocco

Posted: 28 Nov 2013 11:49 AM PST

Bill/AK is chronicling his adventures in Morocco.  Here is chapter one- or some of chapter one if you will..... I think many people will find some of the information Bill lays out in this chapter very interesting as he discusses who the "Divines" are, the "old man", and a few other bits and pieces that we haven't really discussed before on our sites.  Enjoy!!I've posted below the last section of Chapter one, as I think you readers will find it very interesting!  Read the entire article HEREMorocco Diary Chapter 1: A Rainy Day in Morocco 


Morocco Diary Chapter 1By American KabukiNovember 28, 2013......There's a wide variety of climates here, from desert to alpine.  Where we live its almost identical to San Diego (right now make that San Diego in winter!).  I'll be writing more about my experiences here in coming days, one chapter at a time.  I do apologize for the delay, D warned me I'd get so much data that I'd forget the earlier stuff just trying to keep up with the current stuff.  Heather has asked D. and myself to chronicle our experiences as we go through the learning curve of what she's going to show us as we set out on some new projects.  D. is currently waylaid in Malta sorting out some passport/visa issues with her children's documents. Heather feels our work in banking is complete.  So we are planning and creating new projects which will disclose in the coming months. Three things are yet left that have to transpire event wise, the exact sequence I am not quite sure. We'll have to see if they are sequential or simultaneous (lately I am betting on the latter).  But I am not making any dogmatic statements on that because I don't know.  Depends on how things unfold I suppose and the choices that are made by the various beings...1) The Galactic/Celestial Energetic pulse of Creator Source's Love and light Event (which many blogs speak of including us)2) Disclosure of ETs3) Disclosure of "the divines". Those new to the blog may be familiar with ETs but not the divines. The divines are a class of beings of a higher energetic than ETs, kind of the middle managers in this universe. They don't die, some call them "the eternals", "the elders", "ascended masters" (the ones who worked their way out of our 3d energetics through some very rigorous spiritual disciplines) and others.  There will be complete disclosure of their roles in this experiment in duality.  Some of them fear that.  They need not fear. There are no losers in the end of the experiment here.The divines control the very top of the banking system.  You can think of them as the invisible capstone on the illuminati pyramid.  They have remained largely hidden in recent earth history, but they do show up in myths from ancient times as greek "gods", "goddesses",  asian "deities", "demigods", etc. from a time they worked more directly with mankind.  They are hinted about in many Hollywood movies, Highlander, John Carter of Mars, and in the super hero movies. At some point in history, perhaps after numerous human rebellions, they found it more useful to work indirectly with the planet through human proxies like the Rothschilds and other old European families and Chinese Dragon families. They are all interrelated through Genghis Khan anyway. The divines exist (although everyone thought we were nuts last January when we published that, until confirmation started coming in from other sources unrelated to our work like Zap and Keenan and Fulford), and its now its well known the Chinese "old man" is the original emperor from the Qing dynasty and comes and goes from this planet to sign off on major banking events (love the old man - he's making everything transparent as he told Heather he would!) He funded the American revolution with gold, and the building of the transcontinental railway.The divines are ultimately the ones pulling the strings on this planet.  And honestly they really thought no beings would be capable of  holding them accountable.  The did not think Eternal Essence itself would "enforce" on their in-body-ments, and that is now occurring throughout their realm among those that choose to harm other in-body-ments.  And its got more than few of them in a real panic right now.  They try to do one RV after another but each time they feed it into that Universal Value system AI Computer it spits back out as the energetics of it just won't fly.One of the big questions we were asked with the filings, was "this is all legal and good but how will you enforce?"  To which we just laughed.  They wouldn't  believe us if we told them!  We don't have to.  Eternal Essence that lives in all in-body-ments enforces it.  The filings were just formalities closing out what began as a contractual arrangement for a finite time.  But they had to be done and published openly so nobody could say they didn't have notice before the EVENT happened.There's a wide variety of intentions within the divines realm, just as there is among humans.  So when you see the Rothschilds being

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11-29-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man NEGOITATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE RELEASE OF THE R/V COULD/MAY/SHOULD OCCUR PREVIOUS TO DEC 1 BECAUSE OF CONTRACTS WITH A DEC 1ST DEADLINE. THE RATES ARE FLUXUATING AND BEING LOWERED A BIT (SMALL AMOUNT) BECAUSE OF DELAY'S BEING LAID AT THE FEET OF THE USA...BUT THERE STILL FANTASTIC---FAR MORE THAN WE EVER CONTEMPLATED. [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]
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11-29-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man THE IRAQI'S HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THEY ONLY HAVE 36 HOURS TO EXCHANGE THEIR 3 ZERO NOTES---THAT ONLY APPLIES TO IN COUNTRY RATE EXCHANGE (IN IRAQ ONLY). IRAQI RATE IS NOW PREVELANT AT 3.44 AND THAT NUMBER OR CLOSE TO IT WILL WHAT EVENTUALLY BE THE INTERNATIONAL RATE (AND OURS ALSO)--BUT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. THERE WILL BE AMPLE TIME FOR US TO GET TO THE BANKS. [post 3 of 3]
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11-29-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony IMF and UST are saying they're ready and it's been verified. We are on a timing thing once again... Last week the rate went from $36 to $38 and now it went down again because they said the US held up some things...so today there is a new rate...still in double digits...in the 30's and the VNN has dropped back to $6 somethingWe are still looking for the 800#'s later today or tonight, they want you spending money this weekend...we may well see this today or tonight...they still want it before Sunday.

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Notes by Bailey2 at I4U and Sunny, Ariel144, Karen and Bob, GodsGrace and Dakotaman at TNT...Thanks to you all!!!

[bailey2..] T - what happenned yesterday? surprised how many peeps in chat and on the boards yesterday. So I did a blast. well, went in chat.

T it was thankgiving and ppl wanted to know so I was in chat and said something thewre that I was getting info and that I thought wasnt happening till Sunday or Monday

T...two groups of peeps got upset with me over the weekend and want to apologize...but don't know if i really need to
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T...when i said sun/mon...got calls saying why did you say that...we will be done no later than friday/sat.

T...they were adamant about it and insulted that i said that ariel144: t...they are working to get it done by fri/sat

T...everything we were hearing about the UST and they system...

T: there was a whole lot of things involved with that which might seem they were incompetiant...i was frustrated and so were you ariel144: they took offense to that ...especially coming from me

 T everything we been hearing about the UST I said it made them seem incompitent, we took umbrage and they let me know that they are done they do not want to be blamed for it ariel144: they want you to know that they are ready to go

T - Peeps can have best laid out plans and something can still happen.

T...meet and greet...planned thought only 50=60 peeps and now every location has over 1,000 peeps...didn't ever expect it and so didn't plan for that so see how it can happen to them too

T-they both say they are ready now...imf and UST ...want it done today and spending this weekend

T - I got both sides saying "Our part is NOW DONE!"

T- WHEN i get verification I will probably do a BL

T..this issues with the UST were computers...but now both saying they have their part done and ready to go just don't know the time and day

T..only other detail...we heard the rate last week was 36...then 38...banks seeing that

T - whatever problems there were, based on US so US was penalized.

T-this a.m. it is substantially lower..part of the issues here...what ever problems that were based on teh US not doing what they were supposed to do...so we were penalized with a lower rate...and peeps getting paid since april at diff. rates

T-the peeps that were paid at the lower rates...sorry...but the peeps paid out at the higher rate...do they do a claw back and was part of the discussion and what would be the new rate...not drop too low...still in teh 30's

T- the only other detail is last week the rate went from 36 to 38 now it went down because they said the US held up some things, we know ppl been getting paid out since April, question is ppl that got paid higher rates and does the claw back clause take effect so today there is a new rate in the 30's and caused Vnn to drop back to 6 something

T-they redid the numbers yesterday and those were the numbers

T-that makes this a great day to me, they both came out and said its not us, everybody is doin the best they can

T -exchange centers supposed to be in Sunday thats why I said Sunday …T - waiting for others to be contacted this evening.

T..they can put them on alert or call them in and give s us a heads up or they can do the release and put it on hold till they call them in…that is why the imf said they would release it before sunday we just don't know when the UST will release it and the 800#'s

T...so waiting for the verification on that and will blast that out

Q - 30 days be shortened? T - can do what they want. no one's said less than 30 days. your going to be taxed when you cash out whether it's Dec./Jan as this level we pay quarterly taxes.

T...guess they can do whatever they want to...but don't know they have to have it done before 2014...no diff to paying tax because now you will pay qtrly

q...llc/trust? t..that is for you to decide... . T each of you have to decide what legal structure you Ce in. Trust, personal name, LLC. Can't make decisions for you.

q...telling family about how you made the money have them sign an nda sunny: T - gifts after the CE and in cash and no I'm not going to have them sign an NDA. It's just cash then. t...i'm not telling them..i won't be dealing with that

T - CL was in DC on Wed., doing personal vsits and again today. t..she is there today making personal visist

q..how long? T cl in DC personal

T - IMF not step in until after this weekend. they want us to have larger sum, as it helps US /global econonmy they could have taken over some time ago. T they want us to have the larger sum helps the economy

Q do they really want to stimulate economy or drive us crazy. T- more things than just us.: T I think the best way to stimulate the economy is to send ya'll to the phunny pharm, no it is not about us…even is it was justa tech issue...won't say what it was cause it was embarrassing... . not not to just drive you crazy T - they did not do this last time on purpose but sure they would be embarrased if I said the reason for the mess up.

T they are trying to get it done

T - IQN rate continuing to drop at this moment. Nothing to be concerned with. Looks like we could see this tonight or tomorrow morning. . Have no fear

C - repeat what you said. drop too? T - yes I know, not going to say it. T still double digits, yes. . t..i know but won't say...still in double digits..no sense in getting upset with what you can't control

q..exciting time...a couple of calls ago you mentioned that in the 30 days..the usa rate wouldn't go down and now saying it will go down...when our time comes...do we have the risk of it going down again?

t..this rate is going to go down we have a limited time...from 1-15 days it will drop and continue to drop and in 30 days we will have the real rate...that is the plan and has always been the planT they are just saying you have 30 days to CE - rate can drop during that time. Not staying at $30 or ?? for 30 days.

q...at least they will give yus a reasonable time for us to get in there so peeps won't panic

t...no i said they are trying to get 4-5 m peeps in the first 5 days

t...this is what i would do to remove as much risk as possible...when the rate comes out if it is really hihg and exchangers have the same rate at the bank...who would you go with ??? q..the exchangers .t- yes they are locking in the rates

T when the rate comes out, really high or whatever and exchangers have exact same rate as banks. My rate is locked in with "exchangers." My rate is locked in for 30 days. I can take 25k note to bank and still have my money.

T - if I'm scared, concerned I got a safety net with exchangers, right there. . q..yes that would help a lot of peeps

T - if rates are competitive, you've got to move. they want to get 5 million peeps thru the system in 5 days if they can.

585 chatting football ….T football stuff

q...have you heard any more about the exchangers having the same rate?

T I havent heard anything more other than they are going to be compeditive …. t... all im' hearing right now ...even right now is they are trying to do it today and the exchangers will be competitive

q..rates below 30? t...if i say yes..what happens ...if i say no what happens

T - I don't know if they want me to put the rate out. I'll let you know before you hang up

(They texted Tony and said don't put out current rate.)

q..now that the imf says they are done and the UST...then the release...the private placement stuff completed this weekend...delay in there?

q..how much being manipulated...the rates going down and stuff happening... q...when the ust releases and the banks have the numbers...then .what is the hold up?

t...peeps have been trading the last couple of days...some private placements and did them at $1.98

T - ppl have been trading the last few days, 1.98 trade, private deals done by one country thru one bank in particular

t...could it have been part of the hold up...wasn't in our explanation...it was the system …. did they take advantage of it...yes .

T until it goes live they can do that …. t..could it delay it till sun/mon ...yes cause as long as the rate is not live..then they can continue trade

t..ust saying quit blaming us we are done and imf is done

t..so its done and even if..the rate didn't ...listen carefully...the rate didn't drop it continues to drop

q..they are still controlling...and let it continue to drop  t...guess we just don't know..it could be

t..since they are both saying they are done then someone is still buying at a lower rate..we will deal with it...don't think they will wait for it to get back down to $3...but it could happen in a couple of hours T things are in motion could happen at any time

t..they are all saying it is fixed and ready to go

t..only thing cuold be someone in the back ground still getting what they want...and they say enough is enough then it will be done bysunday a.m'

C - if everybody complete what your saying is the longer i'ts held more chances of value dropping. T - that is the truth.

q...too bad we can't get a math equation out of this for every hour it drops this much. T I just know its dropping

t..that is not bad cause it could to back up....don't have verification as to why it is dropping but look for more confirmation as to why it is dropping

T - still ready to go and the fact that I did not say what the rate was - only a couple of ways it could be doing that.

C - we've been hearing forever, gov. holding out for higher rates to stimulate the economy. Privileged got CE at higher rate. dropping because of penalty. T – that’s my understanding. t..when someone else messed up you got more...now when you messed up...and didn't do what was agreed to...so you get penalized and someone has to pay for that

C - Okie posted nego. on oil credits between US and China? T - don't think that had anything to do with it not going. t..don't think the neg had anything to do with it ...it was the system itself

T there are deals at 1.98 ariel144: t...which they are doing now and for the last couple of weeks ariel144: t..paying a price cause can't double dip …. They are not being authorized to double dip ariel144: t..things which we will be able to do

T - party is over for them, they've signed their NDA"s. ARe peeps out there agreeing to $1.98 and getting exchange.d These are private deals. ariel144: t..there are those out there agreeing and doing it at $1.98...private deals they are cashing in on

T we will get higher rate, just have to wait.

C - rate seemingly peaked, looks like we are on back side of this now as hedge funds involved. $42 might have been spike.

q...now dropping looks like we are on the back side of this...on wed. funds got involved...thought i would have spiked when they got involved ….t..don't know about any hedge funds getting involved and can't gamble with you money before officially traded would be illegal

T I dont know if they are or arent t...if hedge funds are getting involved...if they are paying 30/25$ ...and nobody to sell it to then how do they make their money?

T hedge funds not authorized to gamble with your money. I don't know anything about that. If hedge funds involved, and paying $30, $35 right now and nobody to sell it too and rate is going down, as of today, how are they making money on that.

T see rate coming out high, falling down, hedge funds jump in and pushing it back up. and they will sell and naking profit as it falls. ariel144: t...but buying it high...no

t..something that doesn't make sense to me

C - your right, the strategy does not make sense. . q..think this is like plan A . C reiterates what tony just said .: q...keep your eyes on the cheese

q...will our 25k note always be a 25k note?

T - here's the thing with that - with the 25K note if it's over then - out of country it's a 25K note but in country it's worthless sunny: C 25k note good for years. T - in country they have told them once the 25k note goes lives they only have 36hours and then it's worthless.

t...another thing want you to be aware of this … t...do i want to be a part of this group or that group...the phoney stuff in reno etc...even over the weekend....now saying tony can't come...and be a part of it...because of who he is

C - At the beginning of the call on Wed - you said WF was the reason it was stopped. Is that still in play? t- yes . C 954 - Wed. you said WF wanted to wait till Mon. Still the same? T -yes they have still not called their peeps in. t- still haven't call their ppl in til sun

T - I didn't say that was the reason but I did say there was a bank that didn't want to do it then. I don't know if that's gonna last or not - it could change in the next 2-3 hours T - could definitely be an advantage for us

T - none of the banks are paying me to direct you anywhere. I'm just giving you the info - it is what it is and there's nothing I can do about about it. c- when you said if they released it, other 3 banks wld go with it

T if it's released will WF stll be a contender to CE. T - I made suggestion during call. don't let them holdup the whole show. C - I personally like WF - I just wanted to know if that was the conversation Karen and Bob: t- that was my suggestion ... let them play catch up... don't hold up the show. just do something to get it done

T - it was an observation - my way of getting it across because I know who is listening to the calls

C - there is a lot of misinformation - I've been following you for over 3 years. Loechin mentioned the hedge fund group - ppl have respect for him...all sorts of info coming out and ppl saying it's done Karen and Bob: c- every friday , they're all done,.... yet here we are again .... frustrating . C - reason peeps frustrated is because of mis-info going out. loechin mentioned hedge funds thing Wed. night. peeps have respected for certain peeps. frustrating every fri. it's all done and we go thru w/e and here we are again. We want to believe, you have contacts, Loechin is a minister. this is where a lot of frustration is.

c- who do we really trust & believe in C - who do we really trust and believe in. I favor you a bit more than a lot of ppl out there . c- this week compared to last week being done ... are we really truly done? C are we relly, truly done? t- can't speak for anybody but me. C - is there any inclination that you think this is going to Monday and then next week or are we really done?

T - I can only speak for myself and I try not to respond to what others are putting out sunny: T - all I can do is peep asks me question and I try to make sense of it and where it fits in based on info I have. Karen and Bob: t- all I can do is hv ppl ask me ? & I try to make sense of it sunny: T - I don't bash others or their info

T - all I can do is ppl ask me a question and I try to make sense out of it based on the info I have t- don't try to do calls & put down other ppl T - don't ask me about what somebody else says. I don't know if it's true or not or where they getit from.

T - I base my calls on info I get from IMF CIA, USt and other agendcy I can't mention.: t- don't ask me what this guys says ..... that guy. I do my calls based on info I get from IMF, UST, other 3 LTR ... overseas CBI

T - I don't put down other ppl because I don't know why they are talking to so don't ask me what this or that guy says - I don't know if it's true or not true. I do my calls based on the info I get from IMF, UST, CIA and 3 letter agency that needs to remain anomyous t- best laid plans of mice & men still comes up w/wrinkles

t- can't predict if it goes to Dec14-15.... melazza: So whats the timeframe for the exchange now...still 30 days? godsgrace: T - I deal with it - no one can predict it and I can't tell you the 14th or 15th of Jan sunny: T - I can't predict it. no one can. I can tell you it doesn't make sense to me. In DC for months they said they did not want it to happen, now saying they want it done right now.

T - DC said for months they didn't want it to happen and now they do sunny: T - battles going on between c ountries/govs. we are on the sidelines. t- know those battles go on in countries/govts. we're on sidelines watching the battle T - battles go on in countries/govs and we're just on the sidelines watching the game - looking for the next play t- living in the time/moment

T - we're getting the best info we can get at the time living in the moment sunny: T - some peeps should turn TV off cause they cannot take the play by play. t- some shld just turn tv off. wait til its over

t- you won't have to watch & get caught up in the game sunny: T - it's going to be over when it is and score will be what it is. I recommend for peeps who run from site - to -site. don't listen to any of them if it doesn't work for you.

 t- don't listen to any of it .... me included.

T - it's going to be over when its over and the score will be what it's going to be - you don't have to watch it - For those who want to go from site to site listening to everyone and what they are saying - just wait until it's over and see where we end up

C - frustrated because we keep hearing it's done, it's done, it's done.

T- - you're asking for the impossible T - you ask that same question all the time and the answer doesn't change - this is the info - the only one that can tell you is the guy that will actually release it and I'm not that guy . t- nobody really knows that info . T - you're asking for something nobody knows T - we're giving you what we got - that's it

t- I'm telling you I'm talking to ppl whoo just walked out of mtg. Karen and Bob: t- can't get closer than that T - I'm talking to ppl who are in the meeting - who just walked out the meeting - you're not getting any closer that what I'm giving you.

C - I'm doing this because you are guaranteing us that this is the last call t- they did say by sat it wld be done T - I'm not guaranteeing you anything.    t- i'm going w/them T - they are saying they are going to have it done - I'm going with them t- ust was upset cause I said they were incompetent

T - UST don't take it personal - sometimes I get frustrated as well t- they were being blamed. what I was hearing did upset me & I was saying "really? t- both saying we're ready to go T - they are saying they fixed it and redid it and had it done wed night - they say they are not holding it up T UST was being blamed for everything. upset them. they fixed it and they had it done Wed. night. Don't say we are holding it up because we are not. Somebody is. Well, #'s are moving so maybe not held up. T - somebody is holding it up t- may not be held up at all

c- when you brought in dc guy, you brought in a higher level of authenticity sunny: C - you brought higher level of authenticity. Your the highest out there.

c- the situation is that someone brought in a point that dealers will not require nda if you call sterling . C - this was a post on your board - I'm not holding you accountable . T - I don't know . T - maybe Sterling has not been told that yet sunny: T - coming out of UST/DC, in places you don't want to be they are saying everyone signs NDA in our out of US to exchange., . t- dc absolutely saying all will sign nda . T - coming out of the UST and DC they are absolutely saying everyone is singing an NDA .: t- that's what I have to go with

t- that's what I have to go with T - In the US - out of the US - you will sign or they won't exchange your currency c- makes sense, but found it very curious C - maybe they won't get till last minute.

C - I'm on board - maybe what you are saying is true and they won't get it until the last minute c- rate may stabilize & even go back up C - reguarding the manipulators - you may be right and it may go back up C - it may stabilize and maybe go up - does that make sense t- makes sense to me that it may drop down to where it's supposed to be then go back up

T - I don't know why the rate has dropped 5 - 6 dollars since Wednesdaysunny: T - makes sense to me. I don't know when that will happen. I don't know why the rate has dropped $5-6 since Wed. Not giving you the rate cause they told me not too.

C - another thing - another voice in the dinar community had said the potential hold up was a glitch in the global bank: c- also that CL is not a trigger puller, but as an intermediary

t- let's say she does do this. won't be initiated in the US. rate wld have to drop back down to iraq rate

t- all contracts are written at higher rate. T - you have to understand lets say CL does do it - first of all it won't be initiated in the US - she would have to do it outside the US and then the rate would drop back down to Iraq rate. All the contracts were written at a higher rate

T - all ppl paid out have been paid out at 10X that rate - how do you justify that T - how do you redo all that. how do you spill milk and pick up every oz.? T - Catastrophic –

t- let's just pay penalty, adjust rate, get it going T - we have a minute # of ppl to deal with and let's get this thing going - wouldn't that make more sense? C – absolutely

C-zim ... rate? t- .22 T - still at .22, Rupiah, $1.08 t - those 2 tagged together. t- regardless of what iqd/vnd do

c- relative to oil credit situation. those deals inter countries... that's fixed. C - oil credit situation - those deals for inter countries have already been set at a given rate for oil credits so that's fixed.

c- one cookie jar (ours) full of cookies. if less cookies, either the same hand is in the cookie jar or another???? C - there is one cookie jar that's full of cookies and the rates have been high all this time - Whose hand is in the cookie jar: t- no new players

t- every time new card goes down, there's a change  that's where the negotiation goes back up: T - no new players - everytime a new card is laid on the table then the game is changed, the reward is changed. Mistakes have to be compensated somewhere

T - penalities have to be paid - they don't want money - they care about oil credits T - 1 country doesn't care about money, only want oil credits t- want either more oil credits or more dinar

T - there are only 2 ways - renegotiate the contract or let us get more dinar from your citizens T like lady said, give me $2 today and I'm done.

t- they feel citizens are willing cause we don't know what the rate really is. been so long in coming out. t -TPB let them negotiate while they delays is going on.

T - some ppl understand that this happens at this level of government but most ppl don't.

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c- what if they wld do it manually q..do such a thing as can they get this done so we can change one note? t...no not till the rv goes live

c- since CL stepped in, is she able to force it , even for sovereign country? t- they have it in iraq godsgrace: C - is CL able to force the RV for a sovereign country: t...yes...they already have a live rate in iraq...i've already explained why she hasn't done it

t...she hasn't forced it for the reasons i said earlier...those are the reasons she hasn't done it ..i already gave you all that already T - she hasn't forced it because of the ppl who have already done it - the rates, etc.

t...it is a good time to bring that up to pay it forward C - remind ppl to pay it forward

q...the imf and ust are they allowed to participate in the exchange?: t...no they are not

[bailey2..] just chit chatting again

c- hoping bank down the block exchanges. haven't spoken to anybody about this. not worried about nda - I don't know why ppl are upset about the nda : t..don't know either why they are upset about signing the nda once you sign the rv is over and you don't need to talk about it t- don't understand the worry either. sign & get money. don't sign & don't get money

c- if it doesn't go by the day, if we hv to go another day or two .... when it goes I'm going straight to bank T - the only thing we need to be concerned with is it is going to happen

q...about oil crdits and the rates being up and down...jsut open door for neg. come back again

t..every time someone doesn't do what was agreed upon then it opens the door for more neg. C - with all the things we brought out about oil credits and things - isn't that opening the door for negotiations to come back up again. q..we didn't cause it not to happen …t..no we did cause it..

T - we can only negotiate when someone else doesn't do what they were supposed to do. t..if we got to neg. we would be at $50

C - I didn't do anything

T - oh you mean me and you? We don't get to negotiate

T - I just tell you the truth - sometimes - maybe I give out too much info and everybody doesn't get to understand it but I think that's how you grow …t..so when you are watching the new...they are talking you can see right thru all that

t...when you know how it was done and what went into those decisions and it was a learning process for all ovf us...i know they listen on my calls …. t- I can tell you they listen in to my calls …T - when you are sitting down looking at 60 minutes or MSNBC you can literally look right through what they are saying and know what's really happening

t- know it for a fact . FBI, CIA, etc has done background on me …. t- don't have any reason to be ashamed of who I am

t..know for a fact that they do...fbi cia homeland...etc have done a back ground check on me so no reason to be ashamed and know how some of these other intel peeps are talking to T - FBI, CIA, Homeland - everyone has done a background check on me - they know who I am and I have no reason to be ashamed of who I am. They know who some of these other intel ppl are taking to

they are aware of what is going on and what other sites are saying and if wastn't giving you the right info they would have shut us down a long time ago

t- this is how life is, they even know who you are

t...i just give it the way it is what they are telling me from diff agencies. t- I'm giving you what they're telling & how I'm putting it together

T - we are doing the right thing. I'm giving you what I'm being told and we are getting the big picture and what makes sense

C - if the IMF, UST - if they released it does the banks have any lead or lag time? Do they have to do it instantly or do they have 24 - 48 hours to implement T- good Question,  some banks or at least 1 doesn't want it over this wknd t..one bank doesn't want to do it this weekend...meetings on it wed. eve. but didn't get the outcome...still haven't put their staff on notice

t- we know the steps, the procedure T - I don't know who gets to make that final decision - there were some final meetings on Wednesdayevening and we haven't gotten any info on that.

T - we know they haven't called any of their ppl in. t..don't know if it really matters..go and do the release and then get their peeps in there

T - could they just do the release and then tell them? They could ..and leave it up to that banks...does this one bank have the power to hold it up

T-waiting for the answer to that still T - or do they want that very moment for all of them to go and this one has the power to hold them up q..does that one bank continue to hold out could the others go: t...don't know: t- will hv to make a call after this call T - I don't know - that was what we were supposed to find out

t..nothing more i can say about that just that things are happening and still in motion ...ust and imf ready and now still on a timing thing again but hey want it before Sunday

t - enjoy the rest of your day - hope everyone enjoyed your Thanksgiving

[bailey2..] THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Okie Update at OOM&F Friday Afternoon

11/29/2013
(Note: .Please Check Back: We have added more Okie as he keeps chatting.) 

[..okieoilman] NEGOITATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE RELEASE OF THE R/V COULD/MAY/SHOULD OCCUR PREVIOUS TO DEC 1 BECAUSE OF CONTRACTS WITH A DEC 1ST DEADLINE.

 THE RATES ARE FLUXUATING AND BEING LOWERED A BIT (SMALL AMOUNT) BECAUSE OF DELAY'S BEING LAID AT THE FEET OF THE USA.

WE ARE AWAITING THE RELEASE OF THE 800 NUMBERS AT ANY TIME.

TIMING IS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE BANKS INVOLVED. THE UST AND IMF HAS COMPLETED THEIR PORTION OF THE PROCESS.

WE WAIT AND PRAY FOR THE IMMENENCE OF THIS WHICH WILL BE ANYTIME NOW BECAUSE OF THE DEC 1 CONTRACTS BEING HONORED.

 KEEP THE FAITH AND PRAYERS GOING UP BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE DOOR WAITING TO SIMPLY TURN THE KNOB AND ENTER.
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[..okieoilman] RATES ARE NOT QUITE AS HIGH AS THEY WERE BUT THERE STILL FANTASTIC---FAR MORE THAN WE EVER CONTEMPLATED---

 [..okieoilman] IT WILL BE AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY THAT YOU OBTAIN YOUR APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND GET TO THE BANKS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE RATES WILL CONTINUE DROPPING DURING THE 30 DAY PERIOD OF TIME WE HAVE TO EXCHANGE OUR 3 ZERO NOTES.

 [..okieoilman] THE IRAQI'S HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THEY ONLY HAVE 36 HOURS TO EXCHANGE THEIR 3 ZERO NOTES---THAT ONLY APPLIES TO IN COUNTRY RATE EXCHANGE (IN IRAQ ONLY)

 [..okieoilman] IRAQI RATE IS NOW PREVELANT AT 3.44 AND THAT NUMBER OR CLOSE TO IT WILL WHAT EVENTUALLY BE THE INTERNATIONAL RATE (AND OURS ALSO)--BUT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT THANK GOD

[..okieoilman] I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE AMPLE TIME FOR US TO GET TO THE BANKS

[..okieoilman] PHONE

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Direct Intel from Stage2Omega Friday Afternoon


11/29/2013
DIRECT INTEL from stage2omega Today at 2:54 PM

PER CONVERSATION, THE EVENT WILL TAKE WITH OR WITHOUT A BIG 4 TIER I BANK.

MAJORITY SHAREHOLDERS OF THE BANK AND SEVERAL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE DISCUSSING THIS AS THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE LEFT OUT, BUT PER AOP (Authors of the Plan) THERE ARE NO MORE NEGOTIATIONS & DISCUSSIONS AS ALL OTHER BANKS ARE READY RIGHT NOW.

CRITICAL TIME WINDOW IS AFTER HAWAII BANKS CLOSE TONIGHT.
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I HOPE YOU GUYS HAD A GREAT THANKSGIVING, I SURE DID.

I DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU ALL. THE 3 LTR AGENCIES IN CHARGE DID NOT LIKE MY POST EARLIER TODAY.

THEY WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY INTEND TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE SUNDAYOR MONDAY.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE RELEASED, BUT THEY SAID THEY WILL GET THEIR PART DONE.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT GUYS.  I WILL SEE YOU ON THE CALL TOMORROW. IF WE HAVE ONE.

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Loechin and TNT Members Chat Friday Morning

11/29/2013

[greenbaron] Please forget black friday and remember Saturday is for small businesses that need your money. Visit your home town stores that live and employ in your town making it a better place to live

(ClassicRockChick] Morning Loechin. Are we still looking great great great?

 (loechin] ClassicRockChick yes ..

(loechin] donk I can tell you that everyone is done and they are working the plan. The rates will not be $38 and $10 but more like maybe a STARTING rate of $30 and $6 ..

(maddendomination] loechin from what i have seen so far their plan is pretty much useless so far

[loechin] maddendomination No there is a plan and they are working it well
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Read More Link on Right

(loechin] Problems have been fixed and the plan is working like they want it .

 [ClassicRockChick] loechin If I may ask, what plan are they working on? I thought they wanted to release this ASAP for Black Friday?fixing the issue they had and now everything is ready!!??

[loechin] ClassicRockChick Never was part of the plan

[loechin] Problems have been fixed and the plan in working like they want it

[43tennis] loechin - Do you think we will see the RV today?

 [loechin] 43tennis 800's maybe

[coyotehunter] loechin I don't have a clue how you, Okie and Tony put up with all this lack of understanding

 [loechin] coyotehunter I love people

[Frenchy] loechin Do You think the Rates will go down anymore on the IQN and VNN?

 [Frenchy] loechin Before we see it I mean.

[loechin] Frenchy No

[MRP] loechin Do you see evidence that we are coming out of the Ground Hog Day pattern and not seeing a repeat of other Novembers?

[Frenchy] loechin Thanks.. Those rates are Plenty.. Do You Know if it is 6 or 9 zeros on the zim?

 [loechin] Frenchy I don't care lol

[loechin] Guys I can't say much more except they are and have been working their plan

[utahgirl] loechin lol so you are saying they do have a plan then lol

[loechin] utahgirl yep

GJHHonor] loechin this has to have rv;ed they had a higher rate , many has exchanged and everyday the rate is going down JUST my opinion

[Rinzler] Loechin -- is there a new back wall by chance?? Has anything changed in that regard?

[wanda270] loechin does their plan seem to include us reg. peeps and *800#'s soon (today maybe).... Thankyou... :)

[loechin] wanda270 soon

redhead1] loechin - I will tell you this - I have seen many gurus - intel providers - come and go - personally I do not care if they get the information wrong but I hate it when they disappear - thank you for staying the course and having the courage to keep coming into the room

[rosheen1] loechin Happy Thanksgiving friend. I hope it was great! When you say rates such as $30 and $6 are STARTING rates, does that mean they will go down from there, or is there a chance for them to go up? Thanks so much!

[loechin] rosheen1 They will go down

 [kansaschick] rosheen1 Good question, and why the lowered rate from what Tony said?

 [rosheen1] loechin Thank you for that! I appreciate your answer...and I agree with redhead too. Thanks for sticking with us through thick and thin!

(Texaslove] Loechin... So this has been plan all along to get rate back and 30 and decrease as we start making appts? Thank you

(loechin] Texaslove Not what I said lol ..

 [kansaschick] So I can only assume the rates dropped due to the UST delay of the release.

 [jackaroo] kansaschick i think they drop because of their tradability on the market. thought i heard that anyway.

 [Moonchild] the high rates, as far as I can tell, only make sense if there is a major devaluation of the USD concurrently. That would not be good for the US although dinarians would be ok.

 [MRP] Folks, let's apply business logic. If the rates come in above real value, the rates will go down momentarily. But, currencies will be on the free market, and hedge funds and other institutional buyers will purchase. This will drive the rates up some. Listen to Tony's calls. He talks about that, especially if the rate comes in lower.

[rasher4736] loechin (hi) do you think we will see it today?

 [loechin] rasher4736 hopefully but I don't know

(gnosis] Loechin , blessings. Do you know what the delay was from your Thursday morning possibility?

(loechin] gnosis No delay a plan ..

[kansaschick] If this is all part of the plan I hope the plan includes turning this loose by Dec. 1.

 [tidalwave] Loechin so this is a planned release, not a delay and its on schedule?

[loechin] tidalwave I believe so

[topanga] If it is done i Iraq and just waiting to pop here why are the Chinese WF PP deals not taking place. If it is so imminent I would think they'd scoop it up and at the very least offer private SKR's.

 [skidaddy] loechin would the plan have anything to do with the new banking laws Iraq is supposed to implement on Sunday?

[loechin] skidaddy No

[gnosis] Iraq's laws were already passed and the Dec 1 date was more like an audit date but had no baring on Iraq's new rv is what dc man said

[gnosis] Loechin can you say any more specifics about the plan and where they are at with it?

 [loechin] gnosis The End

[gnosis] Nice, the best part of a story :)

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[hopeinwyo] loechin Someone has told me that the lowest people on the list (us) will never see the banks. Please tell us that could not be true legally, if for no other reason. I know someone who, based on that rumor has sent most IQN to a group in CA for a large whale cash out. No idea of rate, but I'm betting it is very small.

[redhead1] hopeinwyo - I know that group - they are offering $6.40 and the person in charge is reselling the dinar so your friend will probably never see his money or dinar again - they are not whales - they are scammers

[jerseygirl] jackaroo supposedly the hedge funds are getting involved should go sky high - no

 [loechin] hopeinwyo lol Stop listening and your friend most likely got screwed

[redhead1] hopeinwyo if you have to turn in your dinar and there is not a legitimate paymaster - you can kiss it goodbye

[hopeinwyo] redhead1 brendad Yes, afraid that's true. Feel bad for those who have listened. Really sad.

[okrocks] Never ever give your dinar to anyone but a bank... period ... too many scams out there and people are falling for it... why would they pay for your dinar and not go to dealer and buy some for much less? think about it

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/loechin-and-tnt-members-chat-friday-morning.html
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Loechin 

  [Are we still looking great great great?]  yes.  I can tell you that everyone is done and they are working the plan.  [from what i have seen so far their plan is pretty much useless so far.] Problems have been fixed and the plan is working like they want it. 
 The rates will not be $38 and $10 but more like maybe a STARTING rate of $30 and $6.  [When you say rates such as $30 and $6 are STARTING rates, does that mean they will go down from there, or is there a chance for them to go up?]  They will go down.  [do you think we will see it today?]  hopefully, but I don't know
the 800 numbers MAY be out..........


Cobra Update - The Jesuit Agenda

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Cobra Update - The Jesuit Agenda
Posted By: Mr.Ed [Send E-Mail]
Date: Thursday, 28-Nov-2013 22:42:59


Cobra Update - The Jesuit Agenda
(This blog is the official communication outlet for the Resistance Movement.)
Thursday, November 28, 2013
The Jesuit agenda is to infiltrate the Eastern Alliance with its agents and hijack
the process of creating the new financial system. Needless to say, top people
within the Eastern Alliance are aware of this and will not let it happen. Also,
top members of the White Dragon Society have learned their lesson after their
predecessors were fooled decades ago when they surrendered much of their gold
to Jesuit agents for worthless pieces of paper (US government bonds). The White
Dragons are much more careful now, especially as the Jesuits are trying to
infiltrate them through Te-Wu, the Chinese secret intelligence agency.
The Jesuit plan is to let the Light forces purge the Illuminazi faction
(Rockefeller, Bush, Kissinger, Cheney & Co.) and then secretly team up with
the Rothschilds to take over the process of creating the new financial system.
Their agents are present on endless negotiations for the surrender of the Cabal
and they are trying to steer the agreements closer to the Jesuit agenda. This
is the source of proposals to make the Pope the new M1 (monetary controller). This
is the reason why the new Jesuit Pope is promoting the idea of a central world
bank. They are also seriously considering the idea of allowing a worldwide debt
jubilee so that they would be portrayed as saviors of humanity under the wings
of »benevolent« Catholic church. They would then promote the Catholic cult in a
renewed, more publicly appealing way, and gradually absorb other religions into
it (starting with Buddhism) until they would reach their goal of a global
religious mind programming cult, at the same time keeping all past atrocities of
the Catholic church under the carpet.
Through special compartmentialized CIA programs they have infiltrated the truther movement
to the point that about 70% of intel in alternative media is disinfo coming
directly or indirectly from Jesuit sources. I have a list of people and groups
inside the truther / liberation movement that are either under direct Jesuit
control or are manipulated by the Jesuits and it may or may not be released in
the near future.
The Jesuits are working under the command of the Archons to maintain the quarantine
status of planet Earth. It is good to know that the Jesuit organization is a
16th century creation of the Farnese family, which is one of the most powerful
papal Black Nobility families in Italy.
One of the reasons the Jesuits have created WW2 was to orchestrate a wordlwide gold
grab to finance their black budget programs to maintain the quarantine status
of our planet (secret space program, deep underground military bases). Operation
Golden Lily was a Jesuit operation and general Yamashita was a puppet in the
hands of the Jesuits:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/A-100-030-Q-001%3DHISTORY+REVISITED+%281%29.pdf
It is good now to mention the role of the Positive Templars in the Jesuit
downfall. Through a strategically brilliant move they temporarily sided with
their arch-enemies Rothschilds and together they triggered the March revolution
in 1848 and 1849 through Memphis-Misraim Egyptian freemasonry groups in Italy,
France and Hungary. These were the only main freemasonry groups that were not
infiltrated by Jesuits by then.
The March revolution in Europe has significantly lessened the power of the Jesuits
as it decreased the influence of the Black Nobility, removed feudalism and accelerated the slavery abolition process worldwide. The living conditions for many
humans started to improve. Also, the focus of humanity started to shift from
emotionally based Jesuit religious control into the mind, which was further
promoted with advance of science and universal education.
Needles to say, the temporary alliance between the Positive Templars and the
Rothschilds was over as soon as the March revolution has ended.
It is interesting to note that the March revolution was financed with gold bullion
which would now be worth only about $10 million. Organizing a drastic world
change does not need to be very expensive.
Now the Positive Templars are creating a much more powerful alliance with another,
much more positive group and together they will eradicate the Jesuit power from
the surface of this planet forever.
Currently the Jesuits are the main operational task force for the Archons to maintain the
quarantine status for planet Earth.
Their previous superior general Hans Peter Kolvenbach is instrumental in keeping the
fear vibration among humanity on the surface of this planet. He is the
mastermind behind the 911 (Twin Towers) and 311 (Fukushima) false flag attacks
and the main engineering force behind the Syria conflict. He is conveniently
living in Lebanon, very close to Syrian border.
Papal adviser Heinz (Henry) Kissinger created PI-40, a clandestine group which is now
the main Jesuit-controlled force for preventing positive ET contact:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_F_2.htm#the_prominence
The real reason why the Jesuits created CIA, NSA, NRO and NGA was to monitor and
evaluate the threat that positive ET races pose to the their empire.
Main purpose of CIA is to
install Jesuit-friendly political regimes throughout the planet and especially
to dictate their policy regarding positive ETs. The main programming center of the
Jesuits is Georgetown university in Washington:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University
It might be interesting to
note that many CIA directors went through Jesuit programming there. George
Tenet, who was a CIA director at the time of the 911 false flag, was a
Georgetown university graduate. David Petraues, who was a CIA director a few
years ago, completed a military fellowship at Georgetown university. Previous
CIA director Michael Morell is a Georgetown post-graduate. Current CIA director John
O. Brennan received a B.A. from Fordham university, another major Jesuit
programming center.
Also secretaries of defense
like to visit Georgetown a lot. Donald Rumsfeld, who was a secretary of defense
during the 911 false flag, attended Georgetown (he was not good at school
though). Robert Gates, who was a secretary of defense between 2006 and 2011,
achieved his Ph. D. at Georgetown. Chuck Hagel, the current secretary of defense,
was a professor at Georgetown. The role of secretaries of defense is to strengthen
the negative military under Jesuit control. Until 2004 their role was also to
oversee the process of creation of deep underground military bases. After 2004,
all those bases were cleared by the Resistance.
The main purpose of NSA is
to monitor ALL electronic communications on the planet without exceptions and
intercept, analyze and evaluate all messages that would indicate a contact with
benevolent ET intelligence or with the Resistance as any trace of that contact
would pose a perceived threat to the Jesuit empire.
The main purpose of NRO is
to constantly monitor the surface of our planet and its vicinity for any trace
of positive ET contact. If any such contact occurs, the NRO then notifies the
negative military which then removes that positive ET contact one way or another
as it perceives it as threat to the Jesuit empire.
The main purpose of NGA is
to map the surface of the planet in detail as to control it completely.
The power structure of the
Jesuits in the USA looks like this:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1800251/pg1
Apart from people mentioned
above I would like to mention Leon Panetta, who was both a secretary of defense
and CIA director and was programmed at the Santa Clara Jesuit university.
Janet Napolitano, who was a
head of DHS until recently, graduated from the same Jesuit university.
You might also want to look
at the map of 10 FEMA regions within the United States:

And compare it to the map of
10 Jesuit provinces within the US:

To clarify, I did not reveal
the Jesuit agenda to install fear, but to inform and bring awareness to the
situation. There are Light forces at work and they will NOT allow the Jesuit
agenda to be successful.
Victory of the Light is
near!
http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-jesuit-agenda.html

DINAR BANKER HAS NO NDA ACCORDING TO A FRIEND WHO SPOKE TO THEM BY PHONE....

DINAR BANKER HAS NO NDA ACCORDING TO A FRIEND WHO SPOKE TO THEM BY PHONE....

Date: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I spoke to someone at DB and they  said no NDA no 30 limit and the 3 000 notes will be good after 30 days.

We can trade for gold and silver just let them know how much, we do not have to exchange it in USD first.

This is all GREAT NEWS. They will take payoff out of reserves and send the rest or go there, our choice.

I think Tony is being lead to inform us of what the government wants us to do so we get in a jam with the gov probably unknown to him or not.

I think I will take my time.  We do not know what the banks will be doing for sure.
Have a Great Day and Happy Thanksgiving!