Saturday, August 31, 2013

REBELS ADMIT RESPONSIBILITY FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK --- CHEMICAL WEAPONS SUPPLIED BY SAUDI ARABIA, NOT SYRIA! FORWARDED BY ERASMUS OF AMERICA - AUGUST 31, 2013 - 9:05 AM


Rebels Admit Responsibility for Chemical Weapons Attack

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Militants tell AP reporter they mishandled Saudi-supplied chemical weapons, causing accident
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August 30, 2013

Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia.
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“From numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families....many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the (deadly) gas attack,” writes Gavlak. (back up version here).
Rebels told Gavlak that they were not properly trained on how to handle the chemical weapons or even told what they were. It appears as though the weapons were initially supposed to be given to the Al-Qaeda offshoot Jabhat al-Nusra.
“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” one militant named ‘J’ told Gavlak.
His claims are echoed by another female fighter named ‘K’, who told Gavlak, “They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them. We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”
Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of an opposition rebel, also told Gavlak, “My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” describing them as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.” The father names the Saudi militant who provided the weapons as Abu Ayesha.
According to Abdel-Moneim, the weapons exploded inside a tunnel, killing 12 rebels.
“More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government,” writes Gavlak.
If accurate, this story could completely derail the United States’ rush to attack Syria which has been founded on the “undeniable” justification that Assad was behind the chemical weapons attack. Dale Gavlak’s credibility is very impressive. He has been a Middle East correspondent for the Associated Press for two decades and has also worked for National Public Radio (NPR) and written articles for BBC News.
The website on which the story originally appeared - Mint Press (which is currently down as a result of huge traffic it is attracting to the article) is a legitimate media organization based in Minnesota. The Minnesota Post did a profile on them last year.
Saudi Arabia’s alleged role in providing rebels, whom they have vehemently backed at every turn, with chemical weapons, is no surprise given the revelations earlier this week that the Saudis threatened Russia with terror attacks at next year’s Winter Olympics in Sochi unless they abandoned support for the Syrian President.
“I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” Prince Bandar allegedly told Vladimir Putin, the Telegraph reports.
The Obama administration is set to present its intelligence findings today in an effort prove that Assad’s forces were behind last week’s attack, despite American officials admitting to the New York Times that there is no “smoking gun” that directly links President Assad to the attack.
US intelligence officials also told the Associated Press that the intelligence proving Assad’s culpability is “no slam dunk.”
As we reported earlier this week, intercepted intelligence revealed that the Syrian Defense Ministry was making “panicked” phone calls to Syria’s chemical weapons department demanding answers in the hours after the attack, suggesting that it was not ordered by Assad’s forces.
UPDATE: Associated Press contacted us to confirm that Dave Gavlak is an AP correspondent, but that her story was not published under the banner of the Associated Press. We didn’t claim this was the case, we merely pointed to Gavlak’s credentials to stress that she is a credible source, being not only an AP correspondent, but also having written for PBS, BBC and Salon.com.
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FORWARDED BY ERASMUS OF AMERICA - AUGUST 31, 2013. UNLESS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WAKE UP FAST, WORLD WAR III IS READY TO BREAK OUT IN MIDDLE EAST AND DIRECTLY BETWEEN RUSSIA AND AMERICA. OBAMA IS AN IDIOT AND NEEDS TO BE STOPPED FAST BEFORE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE DIE ON EARTH INCLUDING ALL OF AMERICA!

     I in different form released a similar message yesterday, but headstrong Obama is trying to trigger off World War III any moment now. It is time for Congress to tell him that he cannot proceed without first study and authorization by Congress as required by the terms of the U.S. Constitution. If he tries to start a war without authorization of Congress, promptly impeach him from the White House and I emphasize promptly!
      The evidence is now coming out clearly that Saudi Arabia was the instigator of this pending nuclear World War III. The chemical weapons were supplied by Saudi Arabia and apparently accidentially set off by the Syrian rebels who didn't know what they were. These were not the chemical weapons apparently that Syria possessed, but Saudi Arabia did possess them and supplied them to the Syrian rebels who didn't know what they were and how to use them.

     Saudi Arabia is apparently behind all this and trying to instigate a "Holy War" against Russia by the Muslim nations of the Middle East. The U.S. news services are heavily censoring the truth from the American people. Dr. Goebbels of Nazi Germany would be so proud of the U.S. news media practicing the principles of propaganda and news censorship that Dr. Goebbels taught to Nazi Germany and studied by U.S. intelligence sources and carried out by the American news media getting into very deep and dangerous waters by setting America up to a pending nuclear World War III.
      Nesara News has done such an excellent job of bringing out the truth versus the censored and lying version presented by corruptly controlled American news media, I recommend all Americans read all the reports pretaining to this crisis Obama is trying to turn into World War III from this Thursday through August 31, 2013. Read them on Nesara News and promptly tell your elected officials to slam the brakes on Obama and be ready to impeach him immediately if he tries to start a war without Congressional investigation and authorization first as required by the U.S. Constitution.
      I spent eleven calendar years in military academies, heavy background in military intelligence, and I warn you that Obama is apparently insane as all hell and needs to be promptly yanked out of the White House on mental grounds of insanity before he gets America clobbered in an all-out nuclear war and killing off most or all of America as well as getting killed off colossal millions in the Middle East and Europe and maybe mass slaughter in all nations of the world before this mess of mass stupidity is all over. The Russian military are not stupid. I cracked their security and studied all their nuclear attack plans for the annihilation of America from the Moscow Institute For Nuclear Studies. The Pentagon is apparently controlled by Obama stooges and they are not listening to my warnings how deadly Russia would be in a pending nuclear war. This matter needs to be calmed down by the prompt removal of Obama from the White House as he is acting on fraudulent claims and ignoring of evidence that the chemical weapons came from Saudi Arabia to start a Middle East war with, not from Syria. Also, prompt passage of my proposed Omni Law which creates a legal oversight committee not controlled by politics to keep Wash., D.C. honest and responsible and smart in laws and policies they set up. The politics have got to stop and sanity start reigning in America!
      Pass this message all over America and fast. Obama wants to push the button to start World War III and maybe get America annihilated in the process and over damn nonsense stirred up by the mad Nero in the White House called Obama.
     The proposed Omni Law is on my website and can be passed as soon as the major portion of the American people care and want responsible government in Wash., D.C. instead of the insane actions of an insane man in the White House called Obama. My website is www.fastboomamericaneconomy.com  Email is fastboomamericaneconomy.com@gmail.com  Mailing address for those wanting to place orders for items on the website but prefer to place order by mail instead of through the website is NIFI, P.O. Box 1465, Seneca, SC 29679 . Make checks, etc. out to NIFI and what payment is for. Website is used to help finance the Omni Law Drive in America through the Omni Law Loan Program and sell of products that deliver more funding for the Omni Law Drive. Obama is a prime example why the Omni Law needs to be passed and now! Read the updated Omni Law report on the website for the version to be passed by Congress and ratified by the state legislatures.
      Yours For God And Country, Erasmus Of America (pen name for the maverick in military intelligence the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Pentagon long ago sent congratulations to him for the Slavic Royal Alliance Ruse which saved America from pending nuclear World War III then and said this was the most brilliant military intelligence ruse in the national history of America. Unfortunately for now, no ruse is going to save America from a fast coming World War III but only facing the truth and acting promptly to strip Obama of national power and leadership unless 300 million Americans are anxious to die in a possibly fast coming World War III.)




TNT Blast from Tony Friday Night

TNT Blast from Tony Friday Night

08/30/2013



TNT BLAST FRIDAY NIGHT 8 EST - Good Evening Everybody! Sorry for the short call this morning but we were anticipating the President having something to say immediately at that time or I would have stayed longer.

We have been on calls all afternoon getting information. The general consensus is, even though we saw the lower rate today, PLAN A IS STILL IN EFFECT! NO BAD NEWS!

Everyone is still excited and bank personnel are on the job as we speak.

We will know better by sunrise, which way we are going… so look for a TNT BLAST or TNT CALL tomorrow at our regular time! Tony TNT

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Massive Manipulation-We Are At The CUSP

Keep A Jaundice Eye On Silver Price Especially Until September 1st 2013: Massive Manipulation ~ We Are At The CUSP!

Silver 5Xs More Rare Than Gold
Silver 5Xs More Rare Than Gold
UPDATE -> They may throw in the towel even after massive manipulation or plummet price for last go of paper silver.

Bullion was mauled in the overnight session, when thin volume facilitates cartel price management.
As can be seen with the overnight session’s sharp decline, this was not the typical stair-step downward move that would be considered normal profit taking following last week’s big gains.
In fact, the regular session on Monday saw normal profit taking during London and New York trading sessions.
Who in their right mind would try to exit large positions for profit taking during the most illiquid period during Tuesday’s overnight session?
Today’s upside reversal speaks to the underlying strength of this new bull cycle. The character of the bullion market has changed, readily apparent to anyone with a lick of “mercantile sense” as James Sinclair observes.
The silver COT’s [COMMITMENT OF TRADERS] are showing that SOMEONE is massively shorting on the latest rise in the price of silver. Although in the past it has usually been JP Morgan, I believe that it may be someone else this time…a non-regulated hedge fund like BLACKROCK. This would be part of their takeover plans of the silver rigging reigns. RoadtoRoota
By Eric Dubin, The News Doctors:
It should also be noted: the argument can be made that coming into Monday during the access hours there was a small cartel raid that set the stage; who needs “nudge teams” when they already exist on Wall Street?
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Conventional thinkers outside of the reality-based community might scoff at this analysis. So be it.

The bottom-line is that Tuesday’s overnight session witnessed a raid. It’s very visible in the chart.

Today’s upside reversal speaks to the underlying strength of this new bull cycle. The character of the bullion market has changed, readily apparent to anyone with a lick of “mercantile sense” as James Sinclair observes. It also comes a day before the release of minutes from the FOMC, and futures contract settlement later this month. Precious metals markets typically come under pressure against that sort of backdrop.
Regular readers are familiar with daily cartel patterns of crashing the gold and silver markets on both the LBMA and COMEX open.
Hedge funds are incrementally increasing their long exposure. Some of these very same hedge funds were playing the short side more aggressively only three weeks ago. In addition, the hot money crowd is demonstrably not interested in laying on big, new short positions; many are looking for entry points to get long. This shift in the speculator community is contributing to fast upside reversals like we see in this morning’s trade.
Meanwhile, fundamentals for the physical market are strengthening. The seasonally strong period for Asian purchases has begun. We also have the bullion banks apparently net long both gold and silver. The talking heads on CNBC might not be able to see that the bullion markets have turned, but you can and that’s why you’re reading this (and the brainwashing box is ideally turned off!).
Mining Shares Confirming Bullion Price Action
Monday’s standard profit taking was telegraphed to some extent by Friday’s tepid trading across mining shares. Mining shares have a tendency of revealing short-term inflection points when it comes to the speculator community. The shares also can reveal shifts in the aggregate view of longer-term oriented investors.
Ever since the cyclical bear cycle in bullion began last fall, all mining share rallies were eventually sold. Precious metals equities acted like they had fallen into a bottomless pit. Early this month, that pattern decidedly changed. Dips are being bought – sometimes, quite aggressively.
Today’s trading offers a perfect example. It speaks to the fact that the character of the precious metals market has changed. At 12:00 EST, Gold was up about half a percent, Meanwhile, the Market Vectors GDX ETF was up over a buck, and more than 3.5%. Trading volume in the shares has been healthy all morning. This” confirming” trading action is consistent with a precious metals market that has fully switched into a new bull market cycle.
Last Friday, SD Weekly Metals & Markets radio show covered longer-term forecast for the balance of the year and 1Q-2014.
Click here to listen to the show.
Trading we see this week fits with our longer-term forecasts. Most investors are not seeing this rebirth of the bullion bull market cycle. Eventually, that will change.
 
Simply hold – they are now trying to buy your silver on this tiny rise but you MAY see the price fall dramatically. They have created a massive amount of paper silver to trick the silver charts into thinking there is much more silver than there really is. But Demand Is growing Strong For The Real Physical Silver At This CUSP.
China has outlawed this practice of ‘derivatives’, where’s the law enforcement in our own country?
Commercial longs are controlling the silver PHYSICAL market supply (this is good as we who hold are apart of this).
But its the banksters who are printing paper silver as if it were real. They in time will see their own waterloo. Volubrjotr
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Glenn Beck begins to teach America’s biblical (Israelite) identity!

Glenn Beck begins to teach America’s biblical (Israelite) identity!

by: Dr. James W. Bruggeman of Stone Kingdom Ministries - http://stonekingdom.org/skmblog/?p=1151

August 30, 2013


Praise God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ! An article posted today (Friday, August 30, 2013) in the widely-read World Net Daily began this way:

[Quoting] Radio and television host Glenn Beck is now going public with his belief the United States is among the famous “Lost 10 Tribes of Israel,” and America today is suffering calamities just as ancient Israel did due to its disobedience to the laws of God.

Echoing the conclusions of some experts who have delved deeply into what’s known as the theory of “Anglo-Israelism” or “British-Israelism,” Beck took viewers of his TV show into a biblical history lesson dating back to the time after King David of the Old Testament, when the once united kingdom of Israel became divided. …Beck explained that eventually, God warned the rebellious northern kingdom to stop its sinning, or else face disaster. [end quote] Full story here.

I am so thrilled for many reasons that Glenn Beck has taken this courageous step.  One reason is because this is a second and extended answer to my personal prayers of over 30 years ago!  And I did not even expect this second and greater answer to my prayer.

At that time—the late 70s—I was working full-time for an organization trying to educate my fellow citizens, to awaken them to the true facts of history and politics and how we are losing our God-given liberties.  Here was the first step in how God answered my prayer:

At this point, allow me to quote myself (only slightly edited) from a lecture which I presented to our Stone Kingdom Fellowship groups in Tennessee and Atlanta in June of 2010.  It is lecture #2 in my series called Mystery Babylon and the Stone Kingdom. It is entitled “We’re in Trouble—First, the Prophet.”

[begin quote] The more I labored the more disheartened I became as I was coming to the conclusion that there was no way that I and my fellow laborers—in 1979—were going to be able to stop the juggernaut of a tyrannical, one world government which would plunge the world into a millennium of the darkest of Dark Ages.

But there I was, basically teaching true American history to merely small groups of interested citizens, and occasionally to larger audiences of maybe a couple hundred.  In those days, I used to pray that someday, someone could get on national radio or television and teach the American people our truth—the truth about the Founding Fathers, the truth about the Constitution, and the truth of our history, how it has been distorted and twisted by evil men who have crept in unawares.

Men like Horace Mann in the 1800s and John Dewey, the progressive socialist, in the early 1900s, and men like William Ayers in our era.  Back in the 70s, Bill Ayers was a co-founder of the violent, Marxist Weather Underground terrorist group, who blew up buildings which killed and maimed people.

Ayers now says they should have done more bombings!  The word for that is “unrepentant.” Last I heard, Ayers is a university professor who, among other activities, writes textbooks for teaching teachers, and is a friend and unofficial consultant of President Obama.

I prayed back then that I would see the day when the truth would be taught, not just to small groups as I was doing, but to the masses on television.  My friends, praise God, my prayer of 30 years ago is being answered. I told you earlier that in this series of lectures I would name names.  I now see a man who is doing that work.  Yes, I believe that Glenn Beck is one of the prophets sent by God to teach America our true history.  And he is a Mormon of all things! (grinning)

Isn’t that just like our Father, though?  He is always coming up with something to surprise us—an answer to prayer sometimes comes from where we would least expect it.  Has that ever happened to you?  Yeah, so God sends a Mormon to do the job.  I think part of the reason is to see if we can learn to work with Christian brethren no matter what brand they are wearing, no matter what denominational box they are popping out of.

I have heard Glenn Beck enough on his radio program and seen enough of his television programs [when he was on the Fox network] to believe that he is my Christian brother.  Of course, he does not have perfect doctrine—but then neither do I,… nor do you.

Now before some of you go bananas on me, just think about it.  Did you expect that God would send prophets who are without warts, as it were?  Perhaps you have been under the impression that the prophets of old were so holy and pious that they never had a flaw or fault in their lives.

If that is the impression you have had, let me help dissuade you of that false notion: think of the prophet Hosea.  He believed that God told him to marry a whore, so he did.  And He was right; that was God’s Plan for him, but I am here to tell you that if you think you know about some rocky marriages, just picture how rocky that one must have been.

Then there is cry-baby Jeremiah, (known as “the weeping prophet.”) Jerry at first balked at God’s command to him because, he said, he was too young to be a prophet.  And then there was Moses, who complained that he was not a public speaker.  And Jonah, who was so in defiance against God’s will that he go preach to the non-Israelite Assyrians of Nineveh so they would repent…

Jonah was so dead set against that idea that he took off on a ship in the other direction.  I could go on, but you get the picture.  Glenn Beck frequently reminds his listeners and viewers of his warts, including the fact that he divorced his first wife, and that he hit bottom as an alcoholic.

I don’t know if he was raised as a Mormon or simply converted to it after he hit bottom, but as you know, in the Mormon religion, alcoholic beverages are forbidden, so obviously that kind of church family would make his abstinence from alcohol easier for him.

[I have since learned that Glenn was born Roman Catholic, and only became Mormon in the past decade or so, probably due to the influence of his long-time Mormon friend and radio show sidekick, Pat Gray.  Glenn’s other radio show sidekick is Stu Brugiere, who is Jewish.  The Wikipedia entry about Stu says he is the Executive Producer and head writer for The Glenn Beck Program.]

So when I tell you that Glenn Beck is a prophet, it does not mean that he walks on water.  I mean that the work he feels compelled to do fits right in line with God’s word in Isaiah 10 and Judges, chapter 6: Namely, that first comes the prophet, then the deliverer.  The prophet who teaches Israel her history.

That is what Glenn Beck is doing.  Five days a week, this man reaches millions with his radio program.  And five nights a week, on the Fox News Network [now on his own The Blaze TV and internet program], he is there for a full hour with his chalkboards and other visual aids, just a self-taught man, who is now America’s true-history professor.

So, you may wonder, is James Bruggeman becoming a clone of Glenn Beck?  [Meaning that my introductory lectures in the Mystery Babylon and the Stone Kingdom series were all about true American history and a look at the proper function of government, which was what Beck also happened to be teaching at that time (2010).]

No, he is a clone of me 30 years ago, except that he has a national megaphone and I praise God for it!  He is teaching what I was teaching 30 years ago, except of course, the names have changed.  We have a new generation of Insiders who are now at the helm of Mystery Babylon.  But the game is still the same.

And Glenn Beck gets it… not completely…and not exactly as you or I might see it, but enough to do the job he is called to do.  So understand that this is not an unqualified endorsement of everything he says and does.

Because occasionally, I hear him say something or promote some person or their work, something which just makes me cringe.  For example, he and I have a very different view on Israel.  But what do you expect?  He is a Mormon and their view of  Israel is about the same as the Baptists, the Methodists, and numerous other Christian denominations.

[Perhaps that is now beginning to change (with Glenn teaching America is Israel).  It will be interesting to see if Stu Brugiere becomes a “Messianic Jew,” or a (fill-in-the-blank-denomination) Christian; although that would still conflict with Beck if Beck is indeed learning more about America’s true biblical identity.

At this point, it appears that Glenn is at the old Worldwide Church of God level of understanding; i.e., Armstrong’s version of old Anglo-Israelism or old British Israelism (where they identify the Anglo-Saxons as the ten lost tribes and the modern Jews as the true and literal descendants of the tribe of Judah.)  Herbert W. Armstrong came along in the 1930s and essentially plagiarized large portions of Bishop J. H. Allen’s 1903 classic, Judah’s Sceptre and Joseph’s Birthright—an enlightening and basic book, which we still offer: SKM # B-124, a 377-page hardback, $22 ppd.]

It is important to recognize that Glenn Beck had become a famous and prominent talk show host long before his eyes were opened to what is really going on.  It has only been in about the last three years that his program has changed to become American History 101, Continuing Education for America.

God put Glenn Beck in the “pulpit” of the 3rd most-listened-to talk radio program in America and then God opened his eyes and put fire in his heart to plead with the American people to wake up.  He even referenced himself as one of the “watchmen on the wall” of Ezekiel.  Beck is one of the answers to my prayer in the 1970s.

Beck is a funny guy, a true comedian, and that helps to break up the very serious matters he is dealing with.  But when he is serious—and of what I have heard of his programs, I would guess that I agree with about 90-95% of what I hear coming from his lips.

And brothers and sisters, that is far more than enough for me to feel comfortable in suggesting to you that you encourage sleeping Americans to listen to or watch Glenn Beck.  They may not wake up to who true Israel is by watching Beck, but at least they will wake up to the plight we are in as a nation.  That’s a first step.  [But now, three years later, in 2013, millions more Americans may just also wake up to their true biblical identity as the descendants of Jacob-Israel!]

I have often heard Beck pleading with his listeners to pray to the God of the Bible, and “you must look to God” for deliverance; he used illustration of Moses putting the serpent on the pole—and he said it’s so simple that many will not do it! “Look to God,” Beck says.

“You must pray,” he says “and expect miracles…like Moses and the children of Israel at the Red Sea.”  Hello-o-o-o-o-o!  There is much, much more that I have heard from him that persuades me this man is a true prophet, a prominent one, but only one of many who are doing the job of teaching Israel her history before God sends the deliverers.

Remember how in lecture #1 of this series, I told you about George Orwell in the same context with Ayn Rand and her book, Atlas Shrugged?  And I told you her book was prescient of what we are now experiencing in America?

Well, just a couple nights ago [June, 2010], on his evening television program, Beck was giving a promo for what he was going to be discussing next week, and he had three pictures on his magnetic blackboard: George Orwell and Ayn Rand were two of them.

And let me close this lecture with this: Do you remember that I closed the first message with a passage from Isaiah 52:1 which began with the commands to Israel to “Awake, awake!”?  Well, at the beginning of 2010, Glenn introduced a new theme song for his radio program.  [..which in 2013 has now been superseded with a screaming “singer”—an irritating theme song.]

It’s a powerful melody, but I wondered who wrote the interesting lyrics.  I researched it this week and found out that he, Glenn, did.  So listen to these two short lines:  He is a prophet. Here are the lyrics: Search for answers everywhere, we will be the key.  We must remember who we are; we will be the key.

I am certain that my brother in Christ, Glenn Beck, has no idea that he is asking for America to be awakened to who we are, [...or maybe I was wrong.  Maybe he was already learning in 2010 what he is now in August of 2013 sharing with America.] and when we do awaken, we will be the key to our deliverance because we are also commanded to loose thyself from the bands of thy neck.  (Isaiah 52:2) Praise ye the Lord! [When I agree with Beck that we will be the key, do not misunderstand: of course, it is the Lord’s doing, but God usually works through people, doesn’t He?]  [End of quoting my lecture from 2010.]

So in 2010, I saw that the Lord had answered my prayer of 30 years ago.  Now, today, in August of 2013, He has added even more by having this self-admitted, flawed man (aren’t we all?)  fulfilling the role of a prophet to help awaken God’s true Israel people in America (and elsewhere).  Praise ye the Lord!


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Jester and Members Chat at Jester's Place Late Friday Night

Jester and Members Chat at Jester's Place Late Friday Night

08/31/2013
Jester: HELLO FELLOW AMERICANS.... HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL TONIGHT...

Jester: EVER HAVE ONE OF THOSE DAYS THAT WILL NOT END AND FINALLY YOU JUST HAVE TO WALK AWAY FROM IT? THAT WAS TODAY...

Jester: I WISH I HAD SOMETHING COOL AND INSPIRATIONAL TO POST TONIGHT BUT I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO WORK ON ANYTHING... I GUESS WE WILL JUST WING IT... HAHAHA...

Jester: HI EVERYONE.... NICE TO SEE YOU ALL... SORRY I AM SO LATE... I ALWAYS MEAN TO GET HERE EARLIER BUT EVENTS CONSPIRE AGAINST ME...

lulu: Jester can you tell me why gold will plummet after the reset when it is backing currencies does this represent physical or paper gold?

Jester: lulu NOT SURE WHERE YOU READ THAT... I WOULD EXPECT THE OPPOSITE REACTION... RIGHT NOW IT IS MANIPULATED.... LATER NOT SO MUCH....
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lulu: Jester from Mark Z last night not sure if he referred to physical or paper thank you love

Jester: lulu AHHH.... VERY SHORT TERM... I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN... BUT NOT IN THE TIME FRAME YOU SHOULD BE WORRYING ABOUT IT... YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING RIGHT AWAY... THINGS WILL BE VERY VOLATILE...

mohawk: Jester...where do you think we are without causing any problems?

jeff548: Jester can you answer this and clarify it for us uummm did the big wigs ever cash in to a double digit rate and are delaying this on spite just so that the IMF comes in and gives us a lower rate...????

 Jester: jeff548 WELL... I DOUBT IT.. IT IS A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED ANSWER THAN THAT... SINCE NOT ALL OF THE BIGWIGS WILL PARTICIPATE... AND THEY HAVE NOT CONTROL OVER IT... AND THEY DID NOT GET A DOUBLE DIGIT RATE... AND THEY ARE NOT HOLDING IT UP... HOW'S THAT?

Robertprofessor: Jester I'm across the highway right now from Mt. Antero. There are active gold mines on the west side of it now. Thinking I might like stock in mining companies.

Jester: Robertprofessor I KINDA LIKE THAT TOO... MARKZ LIKES THEM AND I AM GOING TO SAY HE KNOWS ALOT ABOUT THAT FROM TALKING TO HIM... SO A GOOD IDEA I WOULD SAY...

Lake Lady: Jester: Plan A, B or C? or???

siskhyder: Jester any announcements today?

Jester: siskhyder NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.... DARN IT...

bigmoneyboss: Jester... With all Syrian borders being closed, do to think this is good way to keep terrorist from transporting currency?

Jester: bigmoneyboss NOT SURE IT IS CURRENCY ON THEIR MIND... I THINK THEY ARE MORE INTERESTED IN GUNS...

surfnomad: Jester Question I have heard that the General's group rate will be the best. I’m not arguing that, just trying to gain clarity. I have read the General’s explanation of how they came up with their rate with the banks, he stated they have negotiated a tighter spread based on high volume; It seems most people refer to the generals group as the PP with China for oil credits. Have I confused two groups or are they the China Oil Credit Group?

Jester: surfnomad WELL GENERAL ALWAYS GETS TICKED AND BADMOUTHS ANYONE THAT TALKS FOR HIM... SO I AM NOT GOING TO... LET HIM ANSWER IT...

Jester: WITH THAT SAID... I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DO BELEIVE THEY WILL BE THE BEST RATE YOU CAN GET... AND I DO BELEIVE THAT IS WHY... MY OPINION...

mohawk: Jester, following up on Lakelady's question...are we still on plan A or can you say?

Jester: mohawk MISSED LADYLAKE.... SORRY.... BUT I AM NOT AWARE THERE IS ANY OTHER PLAN... SORRY... WE ARE NOT HEARING ALL THAT PLAN B NONSENSE...

CTMAMA: Jester, it makes sends to me. That if the "little people" would be much Mott of a threat to THEIR power if we were in High , ratherl than low currency.

 Jester: CTMAMA WELL NOT A LOT IN THIS RIDE MAKES SENSE.... AND THAT DOES NOT EITHER... THEY SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE CONTROL OVER IT... YOU BETTER START THANKING CHINA FOR TAKING CARE OF YOU SO THAT THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM...

VenusVisitor: Jester, Russia confronting Sadi Arabia any truth too that? Isn't that OPEC ? Any thoughts on how that works in global reset?

Jester: VenusVisitor HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT... YOU HAVE A LINK TO PRESENT?

dave_144: Jester With the Sept 1 date rapidly approaching are any of the Rats looking for a safe place to hide?.

jharv: Jester ....It has been reported the "Chinese Gentleman" swipted his card, the last one, and is returning home, any coment?

Jester: WHO IN THE HECK THINKS UP THIS CARD SWIPING THING ANYWAY? THEY ARE NOT CARRYING AROUND THE FATE OF THE WORLD ON A DANG CARD... THEY MAY HAVE SOME CODES... BUT NOT ON A CARD... MORE LIKELY THERE IS PAPERWORK TO SIGN...

sananddan24: Jester a while back you said there were steps or certain things that that you and your sources were watching to give clues to the end of the process...are you seeing these clues and the end for us?

 [Jester] sananddan24 THEY ARE STILL RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE FOR THE TIME BEING... I KNOW THAT SUCKS.... BUT I AM NOT GOING TO LIE ABOUT IT...

[airam] Jester Jester Ben Ber Ben Bernanke announced that he is resigning the Federal Reserve effective September 1, 2013. One of the Federal Reserve Governors has resigned effective September 1, 2013. Janet Napolitano [Homeland Security] has resigned effective September 1, 2013. if true then sept 1 becomes important for the republic and therefore for the GCR ????

[Jester] airam WE LIKE THAT DATE VERY MUCH TOO... AND WE WOULD SURE LIKE TO SEE THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS THEY KEEP PROMISING US...

 [ljp] Jester, do you see anything in particular that held it up for going today? I heard that banks had the rates on their screens but not for public yet.

Jester: ljp THE BANKS HAVE HAD THE SAME RATE ON THIER SCREENS FOR WEEKS.... I REPORT THAT SAME INFORMATION EVERY SINGLE DAY.... THE FACT THAT SOMEONE ELSE SAYS DIFFERENT IS JUST BS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE... SO YOU SHOULD ASK THEM...

[CTMAMA] jester if I wore the powers that be, I had rather see me more millionaires than billionaires, therefore I am would hold out for the lowest price at cash in

Jester: CTMAMA WRONG PTB... RETHINK WHO IS IN CHARGE...

CTMAMA: to tell you the truth jester, I'm not sure I know WHO is in charge anymore! thank you sir

sclovingit: Jester - do you agree RV before O strikes Syria?

Jester: sclovingit WELL I DON'T THINK O WILL SO I GUESS I DO THINK THAT...

sclovingit: Thanks. I'm so hoping you are right about O not starting another war!

  Jester: RUSSIA PUT OUT A PRETTY BIG STATEMENT... THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROBLEM.... IF THERE IS ONE.... EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO BACK OFF...

Rusty_Nail: Jester, If the UN investigation proves that the people in Syria were in fact gassed by the rebels instead of the government. Will that be the deciding strike against Obama?

Jester: Rusty_Nail I'D LIKE TO THINK HE IS SMART ENOUGH TO BACK OFF BUT HERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION.... WHERE DID THE REBELS GET THE GAS? THAT MIGHT BE THE BIG QUESTION... HMMMM...

airam: Jester The Pope also cleaning the house starting on Sept 1 The Most Holy Francis issued an Apostolic Letter on July 11 and effective September 1, 2013 that effectively stripped away the immunity of all judges, attorneys, government officials and all entities established under the Roman Curia [hint: All corporations are established under the Roman Curia]. All of these "persons" can now be held accountable for war crimes, crimes against humanity.... getting ready for GCR????

Jester: airam WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR ABOUT THAT LONG... HE IS CLEANING UP HIS HOUSE... AND GOOD FOR HIM FOR DOING IT...

Jester: OK... LOTS OF INTROSPECTION ABOUT THE SYRIAN CONFLICT.... SUFFICE TO SAY I DO BELIEVE THAT O SHOULD NOT GO OFF HALF COCKED... BUT HE IS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER EXCUSE TO HIDE THE OBVIOUS STUFF IN THE NEWS AND DISTRACT EVERYONE... HOPEFULLY HE DOES NOT GET IT....

Jester: IF YOU GUYS WILL START THINKING POSITIVE LIKE THERE WONT 'BE' A CONFLICT... IT WILL HELP THAT THE POSITIVE VIBRATIONS GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE...

sclovingit: Jester, Is there anything we can look for on Sat or Sun besides Zap's post? 

Jester: sclovingit I LIKE ZAP... ALWAYS HAS GOOD INSIGHT TO THINGS... SOMETIMES IT TAKES A BIT TO FIGURE IT OUT BUT USUALLY PRETTY ACCURATE...

[sclovingit] Jester, Let me rephrase - not a slam on Zap. With the market closed, Forex closed for a bit, and no longer looking for CL or JL to give a speech, any type of news that will let us know it continues to move forward?

 [wango1] sclovingit things are happening just picture a running snail.

[VenusVisitor] Wango really?

 [wango1] VenusVisitor yes we just want it at rapid speed and our snail has it's own pace

[geoworld] wango1 Or a turtle race LOL

wango1: geoworld a turtle would be quicker lol

tree: A dead slug would be quicker

Wango1: tree it isn't dead we have under estimated how long everything takes from Chapter 7 forward

kevp888: Please excuse me butting in but I must leave in a few minutes. Just a thought for all. Do not forget the importance of the date, Sept 1. This is the day new rules are in play where those nasty corporations and others are concerned. This day brings with it total transparancy along with personal responsibility and liability for those who choose to act against the people of this world. Could RV be more suitable to occur after that date? I sure think so. The naughty ones will be running very fast imo.

Jester: THANKS GUYS... HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GOOD TIME.. I KNOW I DID... GREAT QUESTIONS AS USUAL... I WILL TRY TO BE HERE EARLIER TOMORROW...

 paul: Jester.. Thanks and just keep on telling the truth !!!

Justice: Goodnight everyone!!!!

Jester: TAKE CARE... GOD BLESS YOU ALL.... AND GOD BLESS AMERICA....

Flying Eagle: BYE BYE BYE SEE YOU ALL TOMORROW - SAME PLACE - SAME TIME....

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Dinarmaven Friday night post

Dinarmaven Friday night post

08/30/2013
From Dinarmaven:

Guys- I've been on the phone all day and everything I'm hearing squares directly with what Tony & Loechin said today. But that's not what I want to talk about tonight. I had a PM today with a special person who's on the verge of losing everything. The house, the car, the furniture...everything. She was losing hope.

I reminded her that sometimes God tests us to strengthen our faith. That said, God promises to take care of his people and I told her not to worry. She either hangs-on by the skin of her teeth and pays everything off post RV, or she buys everything new. I asked her if she planned to buy a new house anyway after the RV. She said "Yea, our dream home."

So I said, "Then why are you worried so much about saving the one you have? You'll be shopping for a new one on Tuesday anyway." It's funny how the reality of our situation clouds the reality of our dinar situation.

The truth is she is already rich. She just doesn't know it yet.

Until next time - DINARMAVEN.



August's Top Ethical Investing News--The Soul Investor

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Subject: August's Top Ethical Investing News--The Soul Investor
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013

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Shareholder support for environmental resolutions hits 10-year high. - [COMMENTARY] "It wasn't too many years ago when sustainable investors would be happy with just enough support for a shareowner resolution addressing environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) for it to qualify for the following year's proxy ballot. The degree to which the landscape has changed is made evident by a review of the 2013 proxy season compiled by Jackie Cook of Fund Votes. Cook's Proxy Season Roundup summarizes the votes on 502 resolutions submitted by shareowners in 2013. Two-thirds address corporate governance concerns, while the remaining focus on environmental and social issues."

I believe such shareholder proxy resolutions will continue to increase as the effects of climate change mount. Companies not gearing-up for sustainability will be hounded at stockholder meetings and their stock prices punished.
Shareholder support for environmental resolutions hits 10-year high, by Robert Kropp, August 22, 2013, GreenBiz.com, USA.

Index of socially responsible mining companies being released. - [COMMENTARY] "The index showcases Canadian junior mining companies that are excelling both in social responsibility and are ranked in the top 100 based on market capitalization, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers annual junior mine report. Through financial analysis, the MacCormick index details how these companies are financially outperforming their peers as a result of their social responsibility efforts. This is a good idea. No matter how much many ethical investors disparage the mining sector, mining still has to go on, and so we might as well encourage mines to optimize their ESG practices.
Index of socially responsible mining companies being released, press release, August 28, Cape Breton Post, Canada.

Trust in the financial industry plummets more in the UK than in all other English-speaking countries, reports CFA survey. - [COMMENTARY] "The CFA Institute’s ‘Investor Trust’ study revealed that only a third of British investors had faith in the financial services industry, compared with 45 per cent in the US and 68 per cent in Hong Kong." This might be because of the numerous financial scandals that keep rocking the UK financial industry--probably more than even in the US. Nonetheless, the financial industry, together with governments particularly, has become increasingly unpopular everywhere due to their opaque and unethical behaviours.
Trust in UK financial industry plummets, reports CFA survey, by Iona Bain, August 21, 2013, FT Advisor, UK.

Where Are The Most Socially Conscious Consumers? - [COMMENTARY] "In Nielsen’s latest Global Survey on Corporate Social Responsibility of 29,000 Internet respondents in 58 countries, the density of respondents willing to spend more on products and services from companies that give back varies considerably across the 58 countries Nielsen examined... What makes consumers in India nearly three times more likely to reward companies that give back than those in Estonia and Belgium? It might be because consumers in India already have high corporate social responsibly (CSR) expectations."

Apparently, India leads in having the world's most socially conscious consumers! In most developed countries the scepticism towards companies is great and hence lessens people's trust that companies will act in a socially conscious way. The page linked to below has a table of the survey results for most countries.
Where Are The Most Socially Conscious Consumers? Press release, Nielson, August 19, 2013, USA.

Sweden named world’s ‘most sustainable’ country after ESG analysis. - [COMMENTARY] "A new report by Swiss investment group RobecoSAM, which scores countries on sustainability based on their environmental, social and governance (ESG) policies, has hailed Sweden as the world’s most sustainable country... The scores demonstrate great success for Scandinavian countries, with Sweden topping the list with a sustainability score of 8.25 out of 10, closely followed by Australia, Switzerland, Denmark and Norway. The UK came in at sixth in the list, scoring 7.57 out of 10, then Canada, Finland, the US and the Netherlands."

The Scandinavian countries always top such lists. Some ethical investors might want to consider country specific investments in the light of such results.
Sweden named world’s ‘most sustainable’ country after ESG analysis, by Nicky Stubbs, August 19, 2013, Blue & Green Tomorrow, UK.

CFA Institute/Edelman Study: Only Half of Investors Trust Investment Firms to do what is Right. - [COMMENTARY] "Investors worldwide have little trust in the investment profession and believe there is much that can be done to restore trust, according to the CFA Institute/Edelman Investor Trust Study. The study reveals that just 53 per cent of investors in the U.S., U.K., Hong Kong, Canada and Australia trust investment firms to do what is right. Retail investors are less trusting of the industry (51 per cent) than their institutional counterparts (61 per cent), and investors in the U.S. (44 per cent) and UK (39 per cent) are less trusting than those in Hong Kong (68 per cent)."

Though pitiful, the survey results are unsurprising given past events. The type of individuals the industry demands and attracts is a key problem. However, what would've been useful would have been to segment-out the responses of ethical investors with ethical brokers! I believe they would show a better result and perhaps point the investment industry towards a better direction.
CFA Institute/Edelman Study: Only Half of Investors Trust Investment Firms to do what is Right, press release, August 14, 2013, CFA Institute/Edelman, USA.

India passes law requiring companies to spend 2% of net profits on CSR [Corporate Social Responsibility]. - [COMMENTARY] "Companies qualifying are required to form a CSR Committee with at least one independent director. The CSR spend of a company which meets the aforementioned threshold is required to be 2% of the average net profits for the preceding three financial years."

As far as I know, India is the first country to create a law requiring companies to allocate a portion of their profits to CSR. I think it's a terrific idea that companies spend on CSR because they realize its inherent value for all their stakeholders, and most importantly, for their shareholders. However, I'm not keen on crystallizing a set percentage of net profits to enable it. The profit case alone could dictate much higher spending for many companies. Nonetheless, I admire the Indian government's motivation to do what it can to inspire CSR in the country and hope other governments become more proactive too in motivating their business sector towards CSR.
What you need to know about the new Company law and CSR, by Dev Chatterjee, August 9, 2013, Business Standard, India.

A Majority of Consumers Willing to Spend More for Socially Responsible Products. - [COMMENTARY] "Sixty percent of consumers are willing to pay more for a product that is believed to have benefits for environmental or social concerns, according to a study by New York University’s Stern School of Business. The study went so far as to say consumers would be willing to pay an extra 17 percent on average to buy a product that was believed to have some sort of positive social effect."

This is the second study in as many days to suggest consumers will pay more for socially responsible products! These surveys offer great encouragement to companies selling socially responsible/green products--and to investors in those companies too!
A Majority of Consumers Willing to Spend More for Socially Responsible Products, by Kent McDill, August 7, 2013, Millionaire Corner, USA.

'Impact' Trumps SRI Among Wealthy Investors. - [COMMENTARY] "In a recent Spectrem Group survey, investors with between $5 million and $25 million in liquid net worth expressed less interest in socially responsible investing than they did five years earlier. The survey results did not come as a surprise to officials at a leading SRI investment firm Calvert Investments, who said wealthy families and foundations are moving away from legacy SRI vehicles."

This is interesting news! "Lynne Forde, Calvert’s executive vice president for distribution [said,] 'They’re much more interested in impact investing, where they can put larger sums of money to work for both financial return and social impact.'
'Impact' Trumps SRI Among Wealthy Investors, by Leila Boulton, August 6, 2013, Private Wealth, USA.

Is it time to divest from fossil fuels? - [COMMENTARY] "The unthinkable is starting to happen in the financial services sector: a movement to divest from oil and gas companies that affect climate change. Norway’s Storebrand, which holds more than $30 billion in assets, recently announced that it would exclude 13 coal and six oil sands companies from all investments 'to reduce Storebrand's exposure to fossil fuels and to secure long-term, stable returns for our clients.'" The logic of divesting from carbon-based companies is now being based on solid financial grounds!
Is it time to divest from fossil fuels? By Sissel Waage and Edward Cameron, August 2, 2013, GreenBiz.com, USA.

Growing corporate Interest in ESG and the need to report on it. Elaborating on corporate interest in ESG is this interesting article, Five Global Trends Leading a Growing Corporate Interest in ESG, by Dinah Koehler and Chris Park, August 2, 2013, CSR Wire Talkback. Demonstrating the time is now for companies to provide ESG disclosure is this post, Increasing Sustainability Disclosure for Shareholders, by Sue Reisinger, August 2, 2013, in the Corporate Counsel.
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SHHH! TEEN MOB THAT RAPED 2 WOMEN ... WAS BLACK



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(Editor’s note: Colin Flaherty has done more reporting than any other journalist on what appears to be a nationwide trend of skyrocketing black-on-white crime, violence and abuse. WND features these reports to counterbalance the virtual blackout by the rest of the media due to their concerns that reporting such incidents would be inflammatory or even racist. WND considers it racist not to report racial abuse solely because of the skin color of the perpetrators or victims.) Videos linked or embedded may contain foul language and violence.
The original news story from local sources and linked on the Drudge Report said 12 teens raped two women, aged 32 and 24, Thursday evening in Wilmington, Del., and police were looking for help in finding the suspects.
The local Wilmington paper dutifully said the police were searching for “teens” of unspecified race.
Only later was it reported the teens – all believed by police to be between age 12 and 17 – were also black.
Local readers noticed the omission.
“Maybe they could get some help finding these youths if they would give a description,” said Michael Harmon in the News Journal web site. “They already know the ages somehow. Whenever they got the ages of these idiots, maybe someone could give them the race.”
Another commenter, representative of the many people who used to live in the city but now live in the suburbs, said, “The once great city of Wilmington has become just another urban jungle … overrun and in many ways taken over by savages.”
The local CBS affiliate in nearby Philadelphia made more than one jaw drop by finally listing details from the police report that were omitted from local stories: The alleged perps were black.
“They didn’t (list the race) at first,” said one reader of the CBS coverage. “They got called out in the comments and about 400 posts later, they silently updated without saying ‘update.’”
As horrific as the crime was, few are surprised it could happen in that neighborhood or that city. Last year, Parenting magazine named Wilmington the most dangerous city in America: “Wilmington managed to snag the number one spot on our list for highest rate of violent crimes per 100,000 people. And while the overall state of Delaware ranked moderately well in the peace index (which looked at factors such as police per capita, percentage of population behind bars and access to small arms), Wilmington came in the top spot for sex offenders per capita.”
The park where the assault took place is located in the Hedgeville neighborhood of Wilmington. This used to be the center of the city’s Polish community in the 1960s, but today it is largely a black neighborhood, with a smattering of Hispanics and white urban pioneers.
Violent crime is an everyday fact of life in and around that neighborhood. Local political officials are often found at crime scenes, promising to end the violence that regularly racks this city of 70,000.
Despite the periodic outbursts to the contrary, city leaders are surprisingly tolerant of violent crime.
At a recent meeting, the Wilmington City Council voted unanimously to remove the box that convicted felons have to check on city employment forms. In the two-hour discussion of repatriating violent felons back to Wilmington after they serve their sentences, not one council member mentioned in any way the thousands of victims of violent crime in the city.
Neither did one councilperson refer to the 80-percent rate of recidivism that local felons experience after they are released from state prison.
Loretta Walsh, a longtime member of the city council who only recently gave up her committee chairmanship overseeing the police department, recently said she was “furious” at a local police officer for telling a victim of crime she lived in a dangerous neighborhood.
Several cases of black mob violence in Wilmington were documented in “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence and how the media ignore it.”
Last year, shooting broke out at a soccer game a mile from this rape. One person died, and police found shell casings from 14 guns at the scene.
Earlier in August, Wilmington police responded to a crime scene where 100 black people had been fighting in the streets. Four people were shot. None died.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/shhh-teen-mob-that-raped-2-women-was-black/#YWJksFzkXhvrsyEs.99