Late
Tuesday Night Jester Chat:" The Petrodollar Is Dying"
09/17/2014
Jester’s Place:
[Jester] HI YA MODS, PEEPS, LURKERS, AND WEIRD CRITTERS....
[lulu] Jester what is your take on the Scotland independence vote what will it do to England's banking
[Jester] lulu MACROECONOMICS IS NOT MY THINGIE... DO NOT HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT...
[dinar chaser] Jester To something a little more serious, do you think the UST has any gold stashed to support the TRN? I was kind of hopeful China would share some, just to keep the relationship going with the US so we'd keep purchasing their stuff. I mean, the BRICS thing is great, but would pale in comparison in purchasing power to how much the US/West buys. Yes?
[Jester] dinar chaser HARD TO SAY... ACCORDING TO ALL REPORTS THERE IS NONE... I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE...
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[Jester] HI YA MODS, PEEPS, LURKERS, AND WEIRD CRITTERS....
[lulu] Jester what is your take on the Scotland independence vote what will it do to England's banking
[Jester] lulu MACROECONOMICS IS NOT MY THINGIE... DO NOT HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT...
[dinar chaser] Jester To something a little more serious, do you think the UST has any gold stashed to support the TRN? I was kind of hopeful China would share some, just to keep the relationship going with the US so we'd keep purchasing their stuff. I mean, the BRICS thing is great, but would pale in comparison in purchasing power to how much the US/West buys. Yes?
[Jester] dinar chaser HARD TO SAY... ACCORDING TO ALL REPORTS THERE IS NONE... I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE...
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[dinar chaser] And I still have a
problem with the amount of USD reserves all these countries have. How could
they let the dollar die? Plus, we have the PTB, that run all the central banks.
They won't let the USD die either, would they?
[Jester] dinar chaser WHAT CHOICE DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY HAVE? IT IS NOT UNDER THEIR CONTROL... WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHINA AND RUSSIA AND THE BRICS...
[Jester] WHEN YOU HAVE A DEBT THAT CANNOT BE PAID WHAT HAPPENS? BANKRUPTCY? FORECLOSURE? THINK ABOUT IT...
[dinar chaser] Jester We need the republic back in play big time and sooner than later.
[dinar chaser] Jester Point taken. Since the UST has up to $4T dinar they received/took from Iraq, reportedly, wouldn't the PTB, since their backs are against the wall, be interested in revaluing the dinar to help fund, and pay some of the debt of, the US to try to keep their almighty dollar alive? They have to be getting pretty desperate.
[Jester] dinar chaser YOU ARE CONFUSING THE UST AND THE FED AGAIN....
[Jester] dinar chaser THE FED HAS THE ISSUE... NOT THE UST...
[pokerbrat] At least karma catches up with you right?
[Jester] pokerbrat ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH..
[dinar chaser] Jester Are you saying the UST actually controls itself, without PTB pressure, etc.?
[Jester] dinar chaser YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE UST IS THE REPUBLIC SIDE... THE FED IS THE CABAL SIDE...
[Jester] THE UST HAS NOTHING... AT PRESENT ANYWAY.... THE FED HAS DEBT... THAT WE OWE.. THEORETICALLY... SO BACK TO THE POST I MADE OF HOW ALL THE WEALTH TRANSFERS AND MAKES EVERYTHING WORK OUT...
[Jester] OF COURSE THAT WAS THE EASY WAY VERSION... BUT THE BAD GUYS HAVE NOT LET THAT PROCEED... SO... THE HARD WAY WORKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT... THE FED BANKRUPTS EVENTUALLY... AND WITHOUT THE EASY WAY SCENARIO IT IS HARDER FOR THE UST TO RECOVER... BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY... EITHER WAY THE RESULT SHOULD BE THE SAME...
[dinar chaser] Jester So, we are waiting on the BRICS to continue to build their 'non-dollar' system by getting more countries on board so as to have a large enough presence to make the Fed collapse?
[Jester] dinar chaser THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WATCHING IN REAL TIME RIGHT NOW...
[pollyp] Bangladesh wants in now
[LuckyB] Japan will skedaddle that way also you watch
[dinar chaser] Jester Wow! And watch we are. Thanks to you, we know what we're looking for. It ugly, but kind of pretty at the same time. I just wish the good guys could snap the back of the PTB quickly and pull the trigger on the new republic.
[Jester] dinar chaser I AGREE.... THE ONLY DISTRACTION WOULD BE IF O IS SUCCESSFUL IN PULLING OFF A WAR TO DISTRACT AND DELAY THINGS FURTHER...
[Jester] BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE LINING UP TO HELP THAT SCENARIO... SAME AS SYRIA LAST YEAR...
[Jester] AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND TO DO IT... SO... CHECK... AGAIN...
[dinar chaser] Jester Can you lay out how the UST would recover? What would they recover with?
[Jester] dinar chaser I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL I CAN ABOUT THE UST GROUPS... THERE IS A PLAN....
[catz] Just saw this article in several places this evening. In a surprise move the Shanghai Gold Exchange said it will open it's new international gold trading platform this Thurs. 11 days ahead of schedule.
[catz] Jester Will the new gold platform in China speed up the demise of the Fed Reserve?
[Jester] catz THE MORE THE GOLD BACKS THINGS UP THE MORE THE DOLLAR GOES DOWN THE TUBES...
[dinar chaser] Jester I think the world is on to the US's war game, so I agree, that is likely not going to happen. What I do see if the US trying to keep their grip on the middle east by keeping the countries somewhat separated from each other, and distracted (ISIS) so they can continue to push the petro dollar for oil and keep the Russia/China direct trade thing from happening.
[Jester] dinar chaser THE PETRODOLLAR IS DYING... THE HANDWRITING IS ON THE WALL FOR THAT TOO..
[Jester] AND THEY CANNOT KEEP THE CHINA/RUSSIA/BRAZIL/SOUTH AFRICA/INDIA TRADE FROM HAPPENING... IT IS CALLED BRICS...
[Jester] AND OTHERS ARE ON BOARD.... AUSTRAILIA... MONGOLIA... AND OTHERS....
[dinar chaser] Jester One little, or maybe not so little, problem I have agreeing with that completely is I believe the US has control of the new Iraq government and won't let them move away from the petrodollar. I could be wrong, but I think the US is in their pretty tight.
[Jester] dinar chaser WHO CARES? IT WILL NOT TAKE LONG FOR IRAQ TO FIGURE IT OUT... I AM NOT WORRIED THEY WILL NOT...
[pollyp] Jester, Saudi Arabia could be the stickler
[Jester] pollyp THEY ARE ALREADY WAVERING...
[pollyp] Jester, hmmm, so if Germany goes too, the rest are just chump change
[dinar chaser] Jester They already know what's going on, but the US has them by the proverbial bal_s. They are afraid of what the US will do to the people in their government if they don't continue to play ball. Fearful for their lives. Pretty powerful stuff.
[motoxr] Jester, when the US goes in for war reasons and then sets up their central banking system dont they now somewhat control how the CBI operates?
[Jester] motoxr THAT IS THE PLAN... UNLESS THEY REVOLT AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT... MOST DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO... WE'LL SEE...
[dinar chaser] Saudi is run by the royal family and all the princes they have. Most have Jihadist backgrounds and truthfully don't like the US and would rather kill_ them than partner with them. Just my opinion, of course.
[pollyp] Dinar chaser, ally
[dinar chaser] pollyp pollyp Possibly in name only.
[Jester] dinar chaser I DO NOT SEE IT THAT WAY... THE CONTROL IS TENUOUS... IT IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE... BIG BROTHER DOES NOT HAVE THE CONTROL THEY THINK....
[pollyp] Dinar chaser, head to head competitors with Russia for Europe
[Jester] pollyp THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT TOO...
[Jester] DANG.... LATE AGAIN...
[Jester] WELL... YOU GUYS KEEP WATCHING... YOU ARE ALL ABLE TO SEE IT NOW... GOOD QUESTIONS AND YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS... TRUST YOURSELVES AND YOUR INTUITION...
[dinar chaser] Jester Me be hopeful you are correct. Seems to me, everytime a mid east leader tries to make a deal to sell oil directly to someone other than the US, they end up pushing daisies. Lybia found that out. Saddam found that out. So did Maliki. He just isn't pushing daisies, yet.
[Jester] dinar chaser THIS AIN'T CHINA AND RUSSIA... THEY ARE RUNNING THE SHOW... AND O IS LOOKING FOR FRIENDS.... AND FINDING HE HAS NONE... INCLUDING US...
[dinar chaser] Jester He certainly has build a big time headwind for himself. Poor, poor, pitiful him...Great time tonight gang. As always. Thanks Jester, mods and critters.
[Jester] dinar chaser WHAT CHOICE DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY HAVE? IT IS NOT UNDER THEIR CONTROL... WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHINA AND RUSSIA AND THE BRICS...
[Jester] WHEN YOU HAVE A DEBT THAT CANNOT BE PAID WHAT HAPPENS? BANKRUPTCY? FORECLOSURE? THINK ABOUT IT...
[dinar chaser] Jester We need the republic back in play big time and sooner than later.
[dinar chaser] Jester Point taken. Since the UST has up to $4T dinar they received/took from Iraq, reportedly, wouldn't the PTB, since their backs are against the wall, be interested in revaluing the dinar to help fund, and pay some of the debt of, the US to try to keep their almighty dollar alive? They have to be getting pretty desperate.
[Jester] dinar chaser YOU ARE CONFUSING THE UST AND THE FED AGAIN....
[Jester] dinar chaser THE FED HAS THE ISSUE... NOT THE UST...
[pokerbrat] At least karma catches up with you right?
[Jester] pokerbrat ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH..
[dinar chaser] Jester Are you saying the UST actually controls itself, without PTB pressure, etc.?
[Jester] dinar chaser YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE UST IS THE REPUBLIC SIDE... THE FED IS THE CABAL SIDE...
[Jester] THE UST HAS NOTHING... AT PRESENT ANYWAY.... THE FED HAS DEBT... THAT WE OWE.. THEORETICALLY... SO BACK TO THE POST I MADE OF HOW ALL THE WEALTH TRANSFERS AND MAKES EVERYTHING WORK OUT...
[Jester] OF COURSE THAT WAS THE EASY WAY VERSION... BUT THE BAD GUYS HAVE NOT LET THAT PROCEED... SO... THE HARD WAY WORKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT... THE FED BANKRUPTS EVENTUALLY... AND WITHOUT THE EASY WAY SCENARIO IT IS HARDER FOR THE UST TO RECOVER... BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY... EITHER WAY THE RESULT SHOULD BE THE SAME...
[dinar chaser] Jester So, we are waiting on the BRICS to continue to build their 'non-dollar' system by getting more countries on board so as to have a large enough presence to make the Fed collapse?
[Jester] dinar chaser THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WATCHING IN REAL TIME RIGHT NOW...
[pollyp] Bangladesh wants in now
[LuckyB] Japan will skedaddle that way also you watch
[dinar chaser] Jester Wow! And watch we are. Thanks to you, we know what we're looking for. It ugly, but kind of pretty at the same time. I just wish the good guys could snap the back of the PTB quickly and pull the trigger on the new republic.
[Jester] dinar chaser I AGREE.... THE ONLY DISTRACTION WOULD BE IF O IS SUCCESSFUL IN PULLING OFF A WAR TO DISTRACT AND DELAY THINGS FURTHER...
[Jester] BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE LINING UP TO HELP THAT SCENARIO... SAME AS SYRIA LAST YEAR...
[Jester] AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND TO DO IT... SO... CHECK... AGAIN...
[dinar chaser] Jester Can you lay out how the UST would recover? What would they recover with?
[Jester] dinar chaser I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL I CAN ABOUT THE UST GROUPS... THERE IS A PLAN....
[catz] Just saw this article in several places this evening. In a surprise move the Shanghai Gold Exchange said it will open it's new international gold trading platform this Thurs. 11 days ahead of schedule.
[catz] Jester Will the new gold platform in China speed up the demise of the Fed Reserve?
[Jester] catz THE MORE THE GOLD BACKS THINGS UP THE MORE THE DOLLAR GOES DOWN THE TUBES...
[dinar chaser] Jester I think the world is on to the US's war game, so I agree, that is likely not going to happen. What I do see if the US trying to keep their grip on the middle east by keeping the countries somewhat separated from each other, and distracted (ISIS) so they can continue to push the petro dollar for oil and keep the Russia/China direct trade thing from happening.
[Jester] dinar chaser THE PETRODOLLAR IS DYING... THE HANDWRITING IS ON THE WALL FOR THAT TOO..
[Jester] AND THEY CANNOT KEEP THE CHINA/RUSSIA/BRAZIL/SOUTH AFRICA/INDIA TRADE FROM HAPPENING... IT IS CALLED BRICS...
[Jester] AND OTHERS ARE ON BOARD.... AUSTRAILIA... MONGOLIA... AND OTHERS....
[dinar chaser] Jester One little, or maybe not so little, problem I have agreeing with that completely is I believe the US has control of the new Iraq government and won't let them move away from the petrodollar. I could be wrong, but I think the US is in their pretty tight.
[Jester] dinar chaser WHO CARES? IT WILL NOT TAKE LONG FOR IRAQ TO FIGURE IT OUT... I AM NOT WORRIED THEY WILL NOT...
[pollyp] Jester, Saudi Arabia could be the stickler
[Jester] pollyp THEY ARE ALREADY WAVERING...
[pollyp] Jester, hmmm, so if Germany goes too, the rest are just chump change
[dinar chaser] Jester They already know what's going on, but the US has them by the proverbial bal_s. They are afraid of what the US will do to the people in their government if they don't continue to play ball. Fearful for their lives. Pretty powerful stuff.
[motoxr] Jester, when the US goes in for war reasons and then sets up their central banking system dont they now somewhat control how the CBI operates?
[Jester] motoxr THAT IS THE PLAN... UNLESS THEY REVOLT AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT... MOST DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO... WE'LL SEE...
[dinar chaser] Saudi is run by the royal family and all the princes they have. Most have Jihadist backgrounds and truthfully don't like the US and would rather kill_ them than partner with them. Just my opinion, of course.
[pollyp] Dinar chaser, ally
[dinar chaser] pollyp pollyp Possibly in name only.
[Jester] dinar chaser I DO NOT SEE IT THAT WAY... THE CONTROL IS TENUOUS... IT IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE... BIG BROTHER DOES NOT HAVE THE CONTROL THEY THINK....
[pollyp] Dinar chaser, head to head competitors with Russia for Europe
[Jester] pollyp THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT TOO...
[Jester] DANG.... LATE AGAIN...
[Jester] WELL... YOU GUYS KEEP WATCHING... YOU ARE ALL ABLE TO SEE IT NOW... GOOD QUESTIONS AND YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS... TRUST YOURSELVES AND YOUR INTUITION...
[dinar chaser] Jester Me be hopeful you are correct. Seems to me, everytime a mid east leader tries to make a deal to sell oil directly to someone other than the US, they end up pushing daisies. Lybia found that out. Saddam found that out. So did Maliki. He just isn't pushing daisies, yet.
[Jester] dinar chaser THIS AIN'T CHINA AND RUSSIA... THEY ARE RUNNING THE SHOW... AND O IS LOOKING FOR FRIENDS.... AND FINDING HE HAS NONE... INCLUDING US...
[dinar chaser] Jester He certainly has build a big time headwind for himself. Poor, poor, pitiful him...Great time tonight gang. As always. Thanks Jester, mods and critters.
[Jester] DID NOT WORK IN THE UKRAINE THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT
WOULD... MAINLY BECAUSE RUSSIA CHECKED HIM... PRETTY SOON CHECKMATE IN MY
OPINION....
[Vigilance] God bless you all and God bless America! flag flag
[Jester] NIGHT NIGHT... HAVE A GREAT WEDNESDAY!
[Vigilance] God bless you all and God bless America! flag flag
[Jester] NIGHT NIGHT... HAVE A GREAT WEDNESDAY!
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