Monday, January 6, 2014

TNT Morning Monday January 6, 2014

GOOD MORNING TNT
HOW YOU DOING THIS MORNING?
GONNA GET STARTED

(Monday January 6, 2014)

I'LL SAY THIS ON EVERY CALL
TILL IT HAPPENS
I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE ON THIS CALL

FOR GOOD REASON
WILL GO INTO DETAIL

ITS A BRAND NEW YEAR
WANT TO START W/ THIS

LOOK AT OUR STATS
WE'VE GONE OVER 1.7 M PPL
THAT LOGGED ONTO OUR SITE
OVER 500K THIS LAST MONTH ALONE

OVER 40K ON FRIDAY WHEN PPL WERE ON VACATION
WE USUALLY GO OVER 50K ON THE CALLS
A LOT OF PPL
PRIVATE MESS. TRY TO READ THEM, CAN'T ANSWER THEM
I KNOW EVERYONE HAS GONE THROUGH A LOT
LOTS OF PPL AND LOTS OF OPINIONS
LOTS DOING THINGS FOR YOU
ALOT OF INFO
ALOT

WANT TO READ STUFF TO YOU, THERE IS SO MUCH INFO
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE GETTING IT

PERSONALLY HONEST W/ YOU
MY INTEL GROUP DOESN'T WANT ME TO TELL YOU
THE AGENCIES DON'T WANT ME TO TELL YOU
AND THE REASON IS THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO FEEL
LIKE YOU FEEL
THEY GET INFO
AND IN MY HEART OF HEARTS
DON'T THINK WE ARE THAT IMPORTANT
WITH …..

WHEN IN DOUBT DON'T
THE REALITY IS
W/ DC HERE
AT CERTAIN POINTS IN TIME
WE ARE USED AS A VOICE
TO GET MESSAGES ACROSS
AND SOME NEED TO HEAR THINGS THAT THEY NECESSARILY WOULDN'T

ALSO, THAT THIS IS A DONATING SITE
AND OVER 50K ON THE LAST CALL
AND ONLY 100 PPL DONATED

GET MESSAGES FROM THOSE THAT DONATE
AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM
100 PPL WHO CARRY THOUSANDS
AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT
BECAUSE WE HAVE A THOUSAND DONATE 20 BUCKS
AND WE'RE MAKING MONEY ON THIS SITE
AND I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH
ON PTR WE MADE 50K AND 80K
BUT THIS IS A VOLUNTEER SITE
AND ITS ONLY 100 PPL
NOT 1000 PPL
WHO EVER TOLD YOU THAT
AND WE DON'T HAVE ADVERTISING HERE
WE COULD - WITH BLOG TALK
AND WE AREN'T GETTING PAID BY THEM
THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE OVER A LONG TIME AGO
AND DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT OR DO COMMERCIALS W/ FREE CONF. CALL 

DIDN'T WANT TO DO THOSE THINGS
SO NO WE AREN'T MAKING MONEY OFF BLOG TALK
OR FREE CONF.
WE DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS SENT $$$

( HE'S EXPLAINING THIS )

GETTING TO THE GOOD STUFF NOW
I CAN START OUT BY SAYING
HOPE WE SEE SOMETHING TODAY
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY
SURE
PROBABILITY
I DON'T KNOW
THE PTB HAD CALLS AND MEETINGS THRU THE WEEKEND
THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED AT ANY TIME DURING THE WEEKEND
ITS ONLY 1 PH CALL AND IT CAN GO

THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS
COME ON DC ?
HE'LL ONLY BE HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
THIS IS HOW I DON'T CROSS THE LINE

DC- THE 24 HOUR OPERATIONS ARE THERE, CUED UP, BANKS ARE READY TO GO
HAVE WE BEEN HERE BEFORE
YES 
IS IT DIFF. THAN OTHER TIMES
YES
NO ONE IS GRIPPING BUT 2 GROUPS
TRYING TO FIND THE SCAPEGOAT IF THINGS GO POORLY
AND NO ONE WANTS TO BE THE SCAPEGOAT
THERE MAY BE AN ALTERNATIVE
THAT PPL ARE TYRING TO PUSH
SO NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE A SCAPEGOAT
AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE ITS DECIDED
WE ARE OFF TO THE RACES
READY TO GO

T- SCAPEGOAT, WAS GOING TO SAY OLLIE NORTH LOL
T- THE REALITY IS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO BLAME OR PUT SOMEONE IN POSITION, IT STOPPED BEING ABOUT THE RV 3 WEEKS AGO, AND ITS ABOUT THE CHESS GAME, PUTTING THEM INTO POSITION AND KNOCKING OFF THE BOARD, ARRESTED OR FIRED, NOW ITS RETIRED OR SCAPEGOAT OR WILLING TO… HARD TO GET SOMEONE TO VOLUNTEER TO TAKE THIS POSITION, SO GOT TO MANEUVER IT, WHAT FUTURE PAIN IS GOING TO BE, ITS A PROCESS REALLY - THAT'S A BIG ISSUE RIGHT THIS MOMENT, THE CRIMINAL GANG - THE INCOMPETENT BUNCH

FRIEND THAT WAS MARRIED TEN TIMES --- AND HE SAID THE WERE SCREWED UP
THE DALTON BUNCH OR THE WILD BUNCH
YOU GOT TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR - WHATS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR --YOU -- ALL 10 WOMEN ARE NOT SCREWED UP
WHEN YOU HAVE 10 OPPORTUNITIES - WE THINK W/ THIS ISSUE, THAT EVERYTIME SOMETHING IS TO GO DOWN AND IT DOESN'T
IT COMES BACK TO THE SAME AGENCY
AT SOME POINT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY ITS SOMETHING WE ARE DOING
EVERYONE IN DC IS BLAMING YOU
AROUND THE WORLD

SO WHAT DC TOLD YOU, ITS NOT DOWN TO 2 PPL, WOULDN'T PUT MY NECK OUT LIKE THAT, BUT 2 AGENCIES AND THE DIRECTORS WHO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION - 
MORE INFO THAN YOU SHOULD GET --NEITHER CAN GIVE UP W/OUT SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE
THERE CAN BE NO WINNER
WELL THEY CAN
THEY CAN SET LIMITS AND SET A TIME AND AGREE THAT IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN THEN THAT HAPPENS
BUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME UP W/ THE SOLUTION

BANK PPL WERE TOLD TO BE READY AT A MOMENTS NOTICE
IF WE WERE TO SEE A CHANGE IN THIS ENTIRE SITUATION
IT SHOULD BE TOMORROW
NOT SAYING THE RV
BY CHANGE - CONTRACTS, ALONG W/ MOVEMENT IN ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD
AND IT IS FOR TOMORROW
AND CAN'T SEE HOW THEY CAN HIDE IT
SINK OR SWIM

DC- YOU DESCRIBED IT WELL, W/OUT DESCRIBING IT
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE APPEAR TO HAVE OUTSIDE AGENCIES AND TIME LINES THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO MANEUVER
AND THE PRICE OF POKER, ITS CRANKING UP THERE, TOMORROW THE PRICE GOES EVEN HIGHER AND BECOMES DIFF. TO NOT MAKE A MAJOR OR DO A INTERNATIONAL REVALUATION OR CHANGE THE GAME - …. ( MISSED SOMETHING HE SAID, HARD TO HEAR )

T- RAISE THE PRICE, OR IS IT SO MUCH TOMORROW THAT IT CAN CHANGE THE ENTIRE GAME?
DC- YES, AND VERY VERY PUBLIC AND NOT WHAT ANYONE WANTS AND BEFORE PPL START JUMPING OFF CLIFFS, SPINNING OUR WHEELS AND THEN GET CLOSE, ON THURS. NITE, WITHIN 3 MIN OF IT,  SAT. NIGHT W/IN 17 MIN. AND CLOSE LAST NIGHT AS WELL, SO THE RESISTANCE OF GOING PUBLIC IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BUST THRU NOW, AND TO RESIST IS SUCH A PAIN IN THE NECK AND NOT WORTH IT FOR THEM TO RESIST EH PUBLIC REVALUATION 

T- THEY ARE RESISTING
DC- FROM THEM SELF
T- SO AT THE POINT, THEY WANT TO BE SURE, THAT IF THIS GOES PUBLIC AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 3 WEEKS, COVER THE BACKSIDE…LET ME GO AWAY FROM THAT AND WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE AND HOW SENSITIVE AND WHAT LEVEL, AND TOMORROW YOU'LL KNOW IF IT IS OR ISN'T, AND DON'T WANT TO AFFECT THE REST OF THE DAY AND AVOID THIS MOMENT, BUT TOMORROW… AND IT WILL BE A GAME CHANGER, DON'T JUMP OFF THE BRIDGE, DOESN'T MEAN THE RV WON'T HAPPEN BUT THE COST TO PLAY THE GAME

THE GUY THAT WAS GOING TO SEND ME THE NOTES - WANT TO GO THRU THAT W/ THESE GUYS REAL QUICK
IN THE MEANTIME
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO TELL THEM
DC- CLEARED FOR THE ENTIRE CALL - THE MEETING WAS BLOWN OFF - BOTTOM LINE IS THAT EVERYONE IS RUNNING 24 HOUR OPERATIONS, SECURITY AND CALL CENTERS AND WATCHING MOVEMENT AND FUNDS, AND THEY ARE IMMENSELY FRUSTRATED THAT ITS NOT TO THE PUBLIC LEVEL AND INTERNATIONAL SNAFUS AND THE CONTRACTS AND BONDS ETC.. ARE GETTING EXPENSIVE ON A DAILY BASIS, THE COST OF HOLDING IT BACK - ITS IN A MASSIVE WAY AND BY TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE ALOT MORE CONSEQUENCES

T- GET INTO THE Q AN A AND GET MORE DEPTH,  NEGATIVE STUFF,  NEW PROCEDURES, AND WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO AND CAN EXPECT
SO YOU KNOW WHATS GOING ON
ONE THING I GOT THIS WEEKEND, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I'LL TRY TO HELP YOU AND PROTECT YOU AND DC YOU MAY NOT KNOW AND GET YOUR OPINION
GOT SOME EMAILS HERE, THAT ARE BEING TARGETED AS TRUE CHRISTIANS,  MR. WORTHINGHAM IS OFFERING THEM THAT THE RV IS SCHEDULED FOR TODAY AND WANT TO BE PART OF HIS GROUP DEAL, AND HIS CHURCH GETS BACK A 5% KICKBACK AND HE SENT AN EMAIL IF THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE DEAL,  NAME, ZIP CODE, AND AMT. OF DINAR, AND HE WORKED OUT A DEAL, AND CALL AN 800# AND SOMEONE AT WF WILL PAY THEM $38 AND THEN HE ASKS FOR 5% TO GO TO THE CHURCH - IS THAT A REAL DEAL

DC- DON'T KNOW ON THAT ONE, IN TERMS OF 38, HAVEN'T HEARD THAT EVER, PROMISES, CAUTIOUS OF IT, WHAT PREVENTS YOU TO GIVE 5-10% TO A CHURCH ANYWAY

T- WHEN THEY SEND EMAILS TO TNT MEMBERS AND DONT' THINK I WONT' SAY ANYTHING, THEY ARE WRONG, YOU SHOULDN'T TARGET THEM AS CHRISTIANS AND TELL THEM TO GIVE 5% TO THE CHURCH, AND EMAIL PPL , WOULDN'T GIVE THEM MY NAME OR EMAIL AND TELL THEM YOU HAVE THIS MUCH DINAR,  THE GOV. HAS SOMETHING IN PLACE TO PAY YOU AND A  20 PAGE CONTRACT W/ A PARTICULAR GROUP THAT HAS BEEN SANCTIONED, AND I KNOW A BUNCH OF YOU OVER THE WEEKEND… STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN TO ME, THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO BE PART OF A GROUP…..USE OUR GOOD PPL … IF HE WAS REALLY REAL, YOU DID IT WRONG

T- SEE WHAT ELSE,  AS FAR AS PAYOUT PROCEDURES, STILL NOT SURE ON THE 800#S CAUSE THEY AREN'T SURE, HEARING DIFF. THINGS FROM BANKS - DID I HEAR THE # WAS COMING, YES, AM I STILL WAITING FOR IT, YES, DID I HEAR IT WAS TODAY, YES, AM I STILL WAITING TODAY, YES  AND IT COULD GO ANY MOMENT, IT CAN GO SOMETIME TODAY, I AM LOOKING FOR IT FOR THE REASONS WE SAID, TOMORROW IS A GAME CHANGER IN MANY WAYS AND IT MAY NOT MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE TO THEM

Tony is now reading the questions ----- its 34 minutes into the call 
Ppl send me the countries that ppl cashed out, Dubai, Jordan, and, now they can't 
dc- so lets address my personal friends that have cashed out and the odd position it puts others in, on the 17th - bottom line, they had basically the IMF accepted the UST and shocked the UST and they didn't think they'd do it, threatened it for so long and many ME  countries accepted it - and called 2 friends in Jordan and Dubai and hey grab a mil. dinar and see if you can cash in and frankly that simple and straightforward and no problem and they walked into a HSBC in Jordan and said hey here's my dinar and they said OK, its 3.44 and 1.1/2 percent fee, and it was a 5 min. process and left w/ over 3 mil in his bank account -a non event - the morn. of the 18th
and my friend in Dubai, went to the Air Arabic Bank and cashed out and got a higher rate w/ a higher fee and it was a non event, and 3 plus million bucks in his bank account and that's it - then we had others and I asked him to go back from time to time and they said THEY CANT DO IT NOW, ITS PENDING, so one day it is, and one day it isn't -- then on the 31st, the friend in Jordan went again and it was clear right then, he had no more dinar - but he did it on the 31st in Aman Jordan, and other folks said they can't - in Hong Kong in HSBC said we are good at 3.44 and there are some restrictions, but normal banking and then last night came back and said they can't.
So my point in bringing up the details is that its a confusing dang mess right now, and its not straightforward.  Sure there is other info that we are not aware of, but it pops up on a daily basis, and some time its admin. hold, sometimes it free/clear and the next day its back to the other, its a mess and those that trade in dinar is causing fits.  If i was an exporter, there is a tremendous problem, don't know what rates to use.  They keep trying to turn it on, then turn it off, and the UST is in the thick of the mud, and being a pain in the ass and maybe trying to cover something up and causing a great deal of confusion to everyone.

t- lets talk about the countries that tried to let the rate go, and they determined the best was thru the system that was set up
dc- the explanation was that because some are on and off, we'll start over and blank the whole world and turn it all one and then go, therefore all the countries agreed since it was evening and not doing biz, and this solves the problem and took the whole world down to nothing, not just 1166, but deleted the IQN and VNN and did it on Thurs. and on Sat. and last night and on admin. hold right now

t- to understand the process -part of the whole - 1st, 2nd and 3rd floor and then not the 10th, sky is blue, sky is pink
t- lower denoms are out, and we always requested it, ppl on the boards that say no - that nothing changed in Iraq and they talked to ppl there
dc- we'll get pics of ld's and verify, but I have thick skin, and T does a great thing - don't just listen to him - but I'll ask my folks to send me pictures and send them on to Tony - the fills are so upside down - ppl will take them to a metal guy - they are equivalent to our penny - and so therefore - minuscule amt. of econ. value, the metal in the coin is worth more than the value - and they are out and for some time and we'll get a pic of those 
t- if anyone can get a pic - this is the guy
t- today was supposed to be the last day - actually the 1st for the 3 zero notes, and tomorrow the ISX opens and today is a Military holiday and when they open its supposed to be full force
dc- the issue is like our 1000 bill, hard to kill the note w/out causing banana republic issues, so merchants wouldn't accept the 25K dinar note, but the real question is it truly invalidated, in the US there aren't' that many of them but you can still use them -( he's talking about the 1K notes here )
t- what about the 1K and the 10K, do you need permission from the gov. to use them?
dc- Iraq
t- no our gov.
dc- more like heirlooms, but sitting in a sock drawer, lol - it would send flags if I went to the 7/11 and used a 1K bill to put gas in the car… but its still valid
t- if I went to a local bank - it would be - just wait - got some guys to talk to you - it would be issues w/ me…lol
t- banks put out there books for the first, we did get from several banks that they wouldn't accept them… here is the bigger thing, what is going on w/ the flow of info - is there a change -why would it be?
dc- sure, major, because there isn't that much info, we can tell who is physically where they are working 24 hour op's and there isn't info going back and forth, run tests and cashed in 50K ppl, it works and the guys that did stupid things and there isn't much info, but lots of confirm info and these guys are there and Iraq is still good, as well as, a lot of ppl, but insane - getting security conscious, fix a whole in a boat that already sunk, plug the leaks
t- I try to give you the things we go thru and how the process works and we are the pawns if you play chess, I'm a pawn - it was important to get info out to the ppl - and how to prepare for the future and now we are down to the last little part, and about to cross the finish line and give it to them 30 min. before they go in, and the pieces on the chessboard, its between the King and Queen - and the others that thought they were important are finding out today that they are not
dc- we can go home now
t- hope they got it, w/out getting personal, every agency listening - some get their feelings hurt
dc- Tony likes friends
t- I like to keep my friends, we are looking for 800#s today, and we were looking for them over the weekend,  issues in Iraq - lot of things going on in Iraq, on TV now, w/out too much, how does it affect us
dc- it doesn't affect us and the RV, but we care about it, but not a major concern to anybody
t- bottom line, its not a concern w/ the RV, but us - the last 10 years and the future
dc- the argument is taking a positive directions, could it revert back to yelling and screaming, but they are making progress as of before the call
t- other countries that are upset and other agencies that rep. international communities that are upset and increased the pressure 
dc- yep

ITS NOW 56 MINUTES INTO THE CALL AND TONY JUST WENT TO THE LIVE CALLERS

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c- looking at when is the back wall, its done and done no matter what
t- don't know, got it several times last week, can't turn it, but it hasn't gone all the way, again we are saying we will see something tomorrow, or they will change everything, so many deadlines tomorrow, but not saying that we'll see the RV, but…
dc- don't buy any back walls, they are adept at changing the rules, but did so much they can't go back on, and delaying on a daily basis it gets more expensive - when it gets to be so expensive they can't do it anymore and forces the function
dc- no bad wall deadline
t- we don't have one
t- that text got me
c- the ppl in DC are really incompetent there
t- so that you know, they really like that word
c- 2 new words I really like, incompetent and idiot
lol

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c- week and a half ago, in a blast, you talked about the fed res being involved, first time, what part do they play in this
t- they guarantee all the other currencies besides the dinar and the UST and the Fed Res is working in tandem, and supposedly because the treasury releases to the banks - has to go thru the fed
t- that the best I can tell you and they'll be here years to come
c- like country music, here to stay
c- to quote our famous leader, who does this make sense to?  a small group of ppl trying to CYA? and holding up the entire world.
dc- yep
t- yep,  and Iraq is not holding up the RV, they did what they were supposed to do--they can't change the CBI site if they wanted to, and they can't - its being held up HERE IN THE USA- the entire global event is being held up here and played chess till the last minute, could it go, yes, and she could let it go tomorrow at 3.44 and all the arrests and all of that, but she loses so much more than she's trying to gain, the humanitarian projects and the rate around the world, not just here, does she do that just to say she can, or on the other hand, but at what price would you pay to do it and this is what we want, and they are not trying to save everyone, but they told them you are gone, too low on the totem pole and can only save x amount of pieces and then we go - that's the bottom line - that's what this hold thing is about
dc- correct
t- nothing to do w/ China or Iraq, but how many pieces to be saved, and the banks got more over the weekend, bigger piece of the pie and they will keep doing it till this issue is solved, and that is what is stopping the RV
c- scary to think that a small group have that much control and in the past we were penalized and reduced our rates
t-never our fault and that was part of the argument, that we wouldn't be penalized for something we can't control and the street rate went higher, some of us won't the contract rate and some won't do the NDA and they raised the street rate
t- dc did you get the email?
dc -saw it and didn't read it yet
t- well it is broken down, we aren't getting penalized they are
c- well they can release it
t- do we want to talk about it, 
dc- use the same explanation
t- go ahead
dc- we have a stand off, where both parties have to have each other to work, and a proposal by both and getting texts that they are making progress -- one side has to say yes, but did things that they aren't proud of,  the other side has a gun and bullets and needs the other side live, and so they agreed to take the bullets out till the other side agrees and then they;ll get the bullets back - both sides get to keep their dignity and ammunition - downplayed and can't be used against each other
t- lol
t- yeah, can't put names in there, don't' want to be on the black list and disappear
dc- use your imagination and it makes sense
c- maybe the one side w/ the bullets and the gun, needs to say like Dirty Harry - make my day!!!!
t- could do that, but the price is high

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c- thought i was good at Navajo Code talk, but…..hilarious, think I'm following it today,  happy camper
c- dc thank you

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c- if we have to give a scapegoat, do we like dc enough, lol
dc- lol
c- 3rd party verification and we are glad he's here
c- is there a good chance that it will be delayed more, boards, bad situations for ppl, heartbreaking
t- for everybody, every time i hear that - that it should have happened ,… from multiple sources - it encourages me - they can't keep doing this and right to the table and the 3 guys in the room and then the ph rings and then 15 min. before, we'll do something else, the directors of these agencies are getting upset, it is something else to upset the bank guys, but totally different when you upset the guys that sit around the table….. ( its one hour and 13 min. past the hour if you want to listen to the replay )
t- ppl we are not naming, but would give you confidence, and that we are that much closer and tomorrow is significant in a lot of ways
and thing have to become visible after tomorrow if it doesn't
dc- tomorrow is a threshold day, and hate using back walls, the worst management of time and resources and tmrw is a major change on 6 diff. levels that I'm aware of …..if they blow thru tomorrow its going to be painful and for the folks that are suffering and losing houses Mrs. DC - I told her I'd … a house for some time and she gets upset like everyone else does and she's married to me - 100 texts a day and she knows who I'm talking to,  and at least we have a home and our kids are fine and a lot are not and those grate on me and Tony - especially at the higher levels, screwing one ambassador to another - do we care - no, but what really sucks is the ppl that are losing their houses and that's finally coming up - the nice part is that is coming up and harder to justify delaying it further
c- the worst part is that they hold enough dinar, but if they file bk, the courts would take it, carrot dangled and on the treadmill
c- Iraq is beside themselves - WTO - accolades, etc…
dc- imagine how the average Iraqi is, not happy
c- the reserves - its kind of like the more we go along, the more changes, a lot of ppl have had reserves for a long time, so now we have to play a game and get the market rate to pay off the reserves, is that really the intention
t- it is, if you rush in and get a contract rate, then you are done
t- trying to hold this off for a long time, this is why they stopped the flow, they didn't want me to do the call today, but Pam was like no, the ppl --- here is the thing - it was for us - but it wasn't for us to become billionaires and trillionaires, but to become millionaires or multi, but not hundred millionaires, so they set up guidelines to make sure that doesn't happen - might not apply to everyone
confusing enough, but ppl over a certain threshold, set certain thresholds to change the game, they won't let you have that much money, and its one thing to have a lottery winner and its one person, not really going to affect things that much, but 5m ppl will, so guidelines put into place - the whole argument w/ the rate, there are 2 many ppl who have dinar over the threshold, a social issue - and the rest of the world is saying that's your problem, or you picked the 50K and want to forget the rest…. and now other countries are looking out for us.. So the NDA discusses that if you do this you can't do that, its to stop from double dipping, so if you don't' meet the requirements before you go into the meeting, then…. it could still change, and that's what a lot of it has been about.
dc- great job
c- elite
t- they signed NDA, it applies to them, but they didn't apply it, that's the investigation thing, arrests, even though they did
c- last thing to the PTB, we keep hearing that Obamacare wanted to have a certain threshold… there are 5 mil. of us that can't participate, want to help the economy - want to have a good 4th quarter, black Friday and then Christmas and the End of the Year, its criminal how they jack ppl around, and should have more respect for the ppl - if we all banded together on who to vote
t- would hurt a lot of ppl - one of the things they probably fear,  money into programs and could decide things, but they think in 2 years that majority will be broke
c- we donated, and get a lot more from this site, encourage everyone even if its a dollar 5, 10, et… is there another way to donate besides pay pal -maybe a PO Box…
t- other sites that get 50- 80K a month and don't have 50K on a call

( we are one hour and 28 minutes into the call - if you need to listen to the replay )

Tony is discussing the advertisement rumors and that ppl say the site is making money……

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c- ? tough? do the 2 agencies or depts. do they think who they are or who is involved, that we won't know who they are when its over
t- not only that, but a real good possibility you won't - even if it becomes a legal issue, there are courtrooms that you won't walk in or know about, but they are more scared of the public, that's another issue, it hurts more than just them, but a whole party
c- does it makes sense, that the longer they drag it out, the larger the probably that it will be known
t- it becomes more intense and negotiate and negotiate, the less likely to happen
dc- when ppl come back and say hey, 50K, folks, and not fair to the rest, and these guys are going to make so much money and were going to get 3.44 and now its 30 something and make 30,000 times their money and they will be that upset w/ me for making them wait a few more weeks, but that's the attitude and they don't' care 
t- and then you won't care
c- the folks that are losing the homes and can't feed their families, will have long memories
dc- and I will as well
t- if 2 m. out of the 5 mil, they might say a problem, but if there are 100K that lose their homes on Friday, they are not concerned, we feel sorry because they are part of us, there are not enough, Iraq's entire country is affected by it, here its a smaller portion, we'd have done the things Iraq did,  how did they stop the riots in the streets, they gave them the 3.44 
dc- how fast did it calm down
t-yeah
t- doesn't make sense for us, we're in a diff. situation
c- since Congress is back, tax consequence attached to any bills
dc- several diff. scenarios at the diff. committees and clarification that its ordinary versus …. and how quickly they decide, they'll attach it to anything to get it thru Congress now

T- HOLD ON GUYS  -- MY BROTHER CALLED DURING THE CALL - BUT HE DIDN'T ANSWER - WANT YOU GUYS ---UM - WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW, PAM ,  DC,  GOT THAT CALL I WAS WAITING FOR, CONFIRMED ---THE CALL WE WAITED ON EARLIER - ITS ALL GOOD 
EVERYTHING'S GOOD

MY HAPPINESS METER WENT UP 100%

DC- GETTING TEXTS
T- EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HAPPY

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c- tell us why you are happy
t- let Dc tell you
t- they are saying the children are playing nice and sitting on the same side of the table
c- can you tell us why they don't' want Americans to have hundreds of billions, so if we have a layaway with Sterling for 300M and take the street rate, will they have a hard time getting it out, blockage, or from following thru from receiving it
t- anyone that takes the street rate, can do anything they want
t- the contract rules have different rules to the game
c- the street rate - no NDA
dc- confused and they don't' even know, gone back and forth so many times and the guys involved and got 2 diff. answers and they should know they write them, but until the 17th of Dec. if you make money on dinar of dong, that increased in a major way, you sign the nda and keep quite, but putting it off changed the game and we don't' know where we sit and now, I know 5 versions that went thru and….
t- have to wait till we get it
t- as far as cash out and reserves or buying more, at the contract rate you won't be able to repurchase dinar
c- about tomorrow, things become more public and have the reset work, don't they not want the general public to know
t- don't know the general public would find out or would care, but we as dinarians - it would give us a better standing and we'll hear of them and they will be made public, the gen public won't know bout them, but we would

T- VERY LESS LIKELY TO THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN, OPPOSED TO RIGHT NOW
DC- GETTING TEXTS ON THE OTHER PH. SAYING THE KING AND QUEEN AGREED
T- ALRIGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR, A GREAT GAME

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c- who pays the bill, us or Iraq
t- both
c- if its Iraq the US should compensate them
dc- frankly the world agrees to, and the US tells everyone we are only a day late, and you'll absorb it, and Iraq says they were ready as of the 5th of July - so they say they're not paying a dime and the US says fine, side agreements discussed this morn, and who pays the net millions, and looks like it got finalized
c- they shouldn't pay for the incompetence here in the US , fair is fair
t- lol
dc- agreed
c- if it goes beyond tomorrow, what does that mean, where do we stand
t- depends on what happens tomorrow and how the game changes or extend or not extend, final straw
t- got to tell you -- GOT A WHOLE DIFF. FEELING FROM WHEN THIS CALL STARTED, NOW
t- tomorrow will still be a tell tale day
dc-( something he said about the 'care' buddy )
c- reserves, double dipping
t- just this morn. we had confirmations, they listen to the calls and put new rules in there, but this morn. they said the old rules still apply, a lot of ppl have trusts and one agency said you can cash out with them and one said this wee end there would be a change to that, and don't know…. but yes, you could have cashed out in an llc or trust or foundation
c- reg. income, why are they going to consider this, instead of tax gain, income to me is reg. money you make out of your work
t- I can't and am not sure what they'll do yet, and what will be finalized and can't explain why, but what they are doing
dc- so right now, its confusing to everyone, and talked to tax atty's and they say diff. things and what it will fall under, so they are clarifying so they don't' have laws suits-- currency exchange, short term cap. gains, or long term, -- so lets take 10% off the top and let it go like that and they don't have it defined and probably won't know till after, and have the CPA to walk you through it, so Tony's recommendation - to save 50% and you are good
c- but 
t- yeah, in Cali. its 11% 
c- TX. no income tax
t- so save your max
c- when you talk about political parties or agencies
t- the discussion was being done between the US and another 3 letter agency - the fact that I was talking bout them not wanting you to be trillionaires or billionaires, so IE. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and FB guy - Forbes wealthiest Americans, the last 60 of them are at 1 Billion - they've been the wealthiest for years and not in the dinar, don't' think they did anyway, but they'd be trillionaires, but how many dinarians would surpass them and be the richest in the US and have a lot of influence, but the local gov. and Senators, now they have hundreds of millions and campaigns are won on donations and can change the shape of any political party, so they still have to control kind of, you want ppl to have money and know how to use it, they don't me, you or Pam to be trillionaires and know how to work the system.
And some could move into the top ten really easy.  So they put changes in the tiers to stop it from happening.
dc- diff. than Tony on that, but the market will square it away, blow it and pay taxed, and won't allow double dipping - but think the rules went too far on the NDA, and these that ( PLEASE LISTEN TO HIS COMMENT ) ( lost sound for a min. )
mean way to say it, but that's why those folks are wealthier  ( one hour and 56 minutes into the call )
it will create change in the political landscape, don't' believe they are overly concerned with massive political change, it will work itself out
c- control the mind of the ppl, 
t- lol
c- that position is very selfish, and more ppl like us that have the power, instead of the greedy, but the politicians


OK GUYS MONTANA SAID I'M DOWN TO THE LAST 2 MIN. SHE'S CUTTING ME OFF

DC IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT 
AND YOU THINK IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE
AND AS I HAVE HEARD SO MANY TIMES
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS
WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPOINSIBIL8ITY
AND YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE CARE
AND FOR A LOT OF YOU IT WILL CAUSE FEAR AND HEARTACHE AND UN TRUSTING SITUATIONS
AND ALOT WILL BE JUSTIFIED
DON'T LET IT DRIVE YOU INSANE, TAKE YOUR TIME WITH IT, AND LEARN HOW TO USE MONEY AND NOT LET IT USE YOU
DON'T FEEL YOU HAVE TO JUMP OUT AND SPEND SPEND SPEND
BREWSTER'S MILLIONS
I HAVE GOT TO THE POINT OF SICK AND TIRED OF SPENDING MONEY, DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY, GOT SICK OF IT
MY WIFE DINT' REACH THAT POINT
BUT THAT WILL HAPPEN
ITS A FACT OF LIFE
THE SOONER THE BETTER
AND THEN YOU CAN PROTECT THE REST OF IT
TOLD YOU YEARS AGO, THE GUY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
THAT USED TO CALL
AND HE GAVE ME THE NUMBERS AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO BE BROKE IN 2 YEARS
DONT' LET THEM BE RIGHT
DC---YOU CAN'T SPEND THIS MONEY TOO SLOWLY, LIKE YOUR HEALTH, SPIRITUAL SIDE, YOU GIVE W3HAT YOU GET, SPEND TIME UNDERSTANDING IT AND TAKE OWNERSHIP - GET RESPONSIBLE AND KNOW YOUR SELF AND I'M A WILD ASS RISK TAKER, IF I;M NOT ON THE BREATHING EDGE I'M NOT HAPPY, BUT MY WIFE IS NOT, AND SO YOU NEED TO DO YOUR MONEY - IF YOU ARE CONSERVATIVE BE CONSERVATIVE, LIVE OFF 4% A YEAR AND OTHERS LIKE ME WILL PUSH THE BOUNDARIES AND GO JUST INVEST AND GO SLOW

PAM - I WAS COUNTING MY MONEY
T- OK THEN
P- TODAY IS GOING TO BE A GOOD DAY AND PIF
T- RAY

T- OK GUYS
AGAIN THE START OF THE CALL AND THE END ARE POLAR OPPOSITES
WAS WONDERING AT THE START OF THE CALL HOW IT WOULD GO
AND THE END OF THE CALL
EXPECTING A SUPER FANTASTIC DAY AND NIGHT
TOMORROW
AT THE BEGINNING WE WERE SAYING TOMORROW WILL TELL US A LOT
AND NOW IT DOESN'T MATTER
ENJOY THE REST OF THE DAY
LOOK FOR A BLAST
I WANT TO PUT IT OUT
TWITTER WILL GET IT FIRST
ENJOY THE DAY GUYS


6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Same rant different day. I didn't know there were so many ignorant people, the reason this people get on this calls is because they are desperate, they want to hear from somebody that the scam they got into is going to pay off. This people are scared and worried, tomorrow when nothing happens the gurus will came up with some lame excuse, again!!! and on and on it will go for another few weeks, months, years.People need it to do their homework before investing on the Dinar and they didn't.

Anonymous said...

HI TONY.... BETTER READ THE POST FROM ANOYNOUS 2 REGARDING YOUR LYING LAWYER .... YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE GOVERNMENT DISINFO AGENTS..... YOU DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING BECAUSE SOMEONE SET YOUR SITE UP FOR YOU AND YOU ARE ON A SALARY... WE ARE NOT THAT STUPID TO KNOW WHAT YOU AND YOUR LYING NETWORK ARE UP TO.....

Anonymous said...

ANONYMOUS: Scam?? What is a SCAM? WHO is scamming WHO?? I did my homework! And NO I am not desperate nor ignorant! Sounds like you protest too much..what is your beef? Stop reading the boards if you are disgruntled! This is a currency investment which is done all the time throughout the world. Was Kuwait a SCAM?

johnny said...

the scam is tony and gurus calling rv everyday... the actual currency of a country isnt a scam.... especially with the isx, esx tariffs, BIS, and soon wto

DUH said...

Stop reading their drivel and giving them the attention that their egos require and maybe someday.......SOOOOOON.............they will go away. Jus' sayin'.

Anonymous said...

Scam they got into, pay off scam , scared on worried tomorrow scam, nothing happens scam, lame excuse scam, on and on scam, few weeks,months,years scam, gurus calling rv everyday scam, someday soooooon scam , government disinfo scam,
Scam?? What is a Scam? and the who is scamming who?? Humor of the day SCAM IT.