Friday, June 27, 2014

Countrygal - Stevel - Tlar & Others Thoughts & Opinion

Countrygal - Stevel - Tlar & Others Thoughts & Opinion

06/27/2014
Countrygal Peoples Dinar:  I AM NOT TRYING TO CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS HERE AS YOU ALL KNOW I AM A REALIST, BUT THE GRANDSTANDING HAS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND AND I JUST FEEL I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING EVEN IF MANY DONT AGREE WITH IT..    HERE IS THE PROBLEM..

Tlar:   They will get him out. Either the SOL presents a candidate that everyone can agree on or they will still nominate Maliki who will be voted out on the first vote.

Either way we will have a new government because everyone in Iraq except the SOL is on board. Everyone in the world wants a change of government for many reasons not the least is the monetary change. It will happen next week. There will be a new government. Now for the good part.
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-Turki will RV/RI the currency next week north of $3.00. I am in possession of some information that is happening that I can't yet discuss, but if the government changes so goes the currency.

 Turki is waiting for that moment just as you and I are. I promise I am not grandstanding but I will tell you this. We are within a BB gun shot of this being over as long as the government is "settled.".

No contact or second hand info but true fact. If the government is seated and is a new government next week, I will disclose what it is I've got within 5 minutes of the announcement.

 Everybody will be very happy. Come on Tuesday. Come on more pressure on dough boy. Continue to turn the heat up. Resign fat boy. tlar


 NOW THIS POST TO ME IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND IS KEEPING PEOPLE ON THE ROLLER COASTER RIDE THAT HERE AT PD I THOUGHT WE TRIED TO PREVENT.

NO ONE KNOWS WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN NOT EVEN TURKI..IN THE PROCESS OF A REVALUE OR RI OR ANYTHING..TURKI GIVES THE RATE TO THE IMF THAT HE FEELS THE COUNTRY CAN SUSTAIN..

THE IMF EITHER OKAYS OR DENIES THAT RATE..THEN IF THE IMF OKAYS THIS RATE, THEN WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT RATE IS GIVEN TO THE BIS (BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS) AND THEN THEN RELEASE THE RATE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME..

ONLY THE CBI AND OTHER TOP OFFICIALS WILL KNOW BUT THEY WILL NOT KNOW THE EXACT TIME FRAME THAT IT WILL HAPPEN..

ITS A MAJOR SECURITY RISK FOR ANYONE TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION TOO FAR AHEAD OF TIME..IT CAN CAUSE AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IF DONE ANY OTHER WAY..

SHABBS ALWAYS SAID IT WOULD BE A FIXED RATE AND WOULD HAPPEN WHEN LEAST EXPECTED ..MEANING NO ONE WILL NOW AND FOR GREAT REASONS..

 IM SORRY IF THIS COMES ACROSS AS BEING CRASS BUT I HAVE SEEN WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE STAND ON THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF WAY TOO MANY TIMES AND ITS GETTING TO BE SICKENING..

EITHER GRANDSTANDING OR JUST WANTING THAT PAT ON THE BACK, BUT EITHER WAY ITS NOT GOOD FOR THE MEMBERS HERE OR ON ANY OTHER DINAR SITE OR CALL..

THERE ARE MAJOR ISSUES IN IRAQ THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY IN A FEW DAYS..

ALTHOUGH THE NEWS MAY NOT BE AS BAD AS IT SOMEWHAT SEEMS THERE ARE STILL COUNTRIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS AND MUCH NEGOTIATIONS ARE ONGOING..

ITS NOT AS SIMPLE AS THE TERM OF "TURKI WILL PULL THE TRIGGER" WORDS THAT I HAVE COME TO LOATH..

 THIS WAS A PLAN FOR IRAQ TO RV AND THEY WOULD HAVE BY NOW BUT WE HAVE ALL COME TO READ THE STORY OF THE DICTATOR AND HIS PROXY COUNTRY OF IRAN.

.IRAQ AND SYRIA ARE THE SAUDI'S AND IRAN'S PROXY WAR..MEANING ITS NOT TAKING PLACE IN THEIR COUNTRY..

THE SAUDI'S WERE ARMING THE OPPOSITION IN SYRIA ALL ALONG AND WE ALL KNOW IT AND THEY NEVER REALLY HID IT..

BUT THE OPPOSITION SPLINTERED BECAUSE IRAN STEPPED IN WITH SULEMEINI AND SET UP HIS OWN COMMAND CENTER IN SYRIA..

THE ISIS IS MADE UP OF SUNNI JIHADISTS THAT DONT LIKE SHIITE RULE AND SUPPOSEDLY EX BAATHIST PEOPLE..

WELL POSE AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR OVER A WEEK NOW AND WE BELIEVE THAT IRAN IS REALLY THE ONES FUNDING ISIS..

BUT ISIS DOESNT KNOW IT BECAUSE I THINK IRAN IS DOING IS BY A PROXY SUNNI..THINK ABOUT IT..

IRAN IS NOTHING BUT A POT STIRRING COUNTRY CREATING CAOS WHEREVER THEY GO..

THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE..SO THE REASON BEING THAT I BELIEVE THAT IRAN IS BEHIND THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW USING THE IDEA THAT THEY WILL HELP THE U.S. AND IRAQ DEFEAT DAASH AND THEN IN RETURN THEY WILL USE IT AS A BARGAINING TOOL FOR THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM..

IRAN KNEW ONCE THOSE SANCTIONS WERE PUT ON THEM THAT IT WOULD INEVITABLY LEAD TO THEIR NUKE PROGRAM AND THEIR MEDDLING IN SYRIA AND IRAQ..

ANOTHER REASON THAT I SEE IT THIS WAY IS BECAUSE WHEN OUR TROOPS WERE THERE THE WORST BATTLE WE FOUGHT WAS IN FALLUJAH..AKA ANBAR PROVINCE..

THEY WERE SUNNI PROXY IRANIANS MEANT TO KILL AS MANY AMERICANS AS POSSIBLE..

THAT IS WHY IT WAS EASY FOR THE AWAKENING (A SUNNI FORCE PETRAEUS PUT TOGETHER) TO FIGURE OUT WHO WAS WHO IN FALLUJAH AND AID THE U.S. GREATLY IN THEIR EFFORTS..

THAT IS WHY THE AWAKENING WAS NEVER CALLED OUT AGAIN BY MALIKI OR ARMED BY MALIKI..

IT WASNT BECAUSE MALIKI WAS AFRAID OF A COUP IT WAS BECAUSE IRAN NEEDED TO USE THESE PROXY SUNNI'S TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDA..

IN SHORT WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS MUCH LARGER THAN JUST IRAQ RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS TO DO WITH BORDERS , OIL, LAND AND COUNTRIES..

THE COUNTRIES ARENT LOOKING AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE DYING THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE PLAN THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN PAPA GEORGE BUSH'S PRESIDENCY AND ITS BEING CARRIED OUT NOW..

I HAVE READ MANY ARTICLES TALKING OF THE FACT ON HOW OBAMA IS GETTING ADVICE FROM THE FORMER GW TEAM AND ALL HIS MILITARY ADVISORS...

IN FACT POSE AND I LAUGHED SAYING IT WAS PROBABLY HAPPENING AND BOOM HERE COME SEVERAL ARTICLES ALLUDING TO THE FACT OF IT..OBAMA WAS NEVER IN CONTROL OF THIS AND WASNT MEANT TO BE..

HE IS DOING WHAT HE IS TOLD TO DO BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER HIS BABY TO BEGIN WITH..

I HAVE STUDIED THIS WITH POSE FOR ALONG TIME AND MAYBE OUR VIEW POINTS HAVE CHANGED A TIME OR TWO BUT WE HAVE BEEN STEAD FAST IN THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE POLITICAL AND ECONOMICAL SECURITY..

 SO TO END THIS I WILL ASK IN ALL HONESTY EVEN THOUGH I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AS BAD AS ANYONE ELSE AND THAT IS THIS?...

DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY ARE CAPABLE OF REVALUING THAT CURRENCY SHORTLY AFTER THIS GOVERNMENT IS SEATED?..

REALLY ASK YOURSELF THAT AND SEE WHERE THE ANSWER LEADS YOU AND THEN READ ARTICLES STUDY YOUR INVESTMENT AND DONT HANG ON SOMEONE'S ILL GUIDED OPINION ..

I USED TO HAVE ALOT OF RESPECT FOR TLAR AND SOME OTHERS BUT NOW I DONT ANYMORE BECAUSE ITS IRRESPONSIBLE TO TELL SOMEONE ITS GONNA HAPPEN AND YOU HAVE NO PROOF BUT TO ONLY SAY I WILL TELL YOU ONCE THE GOI IS SEATED..

THEN THE NEXT THING WILL BE WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN WAHHHHH , ANOTHER EXCUSE..

OUR ARTICLES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OUR SAVIOR IN THIS AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO READ..

HISTORY IS UNFOLDING BEFORE OUR EYES BUT I FOR ONE WANT TO SEE IT IN PRINT BEFORE I JUMP FOR JOY..

IM SURE I HAVE STEPPED ON MANY TOES AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN SO BE IT BUT IM AN ADULT AND I FEEL AT TIMES I MUST ACT LIKE ONE AND STICK MY NOSE IN WHERE IT DOESNT BELONG SO THAT SOME WHO ARE NOT SO GROUNDED CAN EITHER BECOME GROUNDED OR STAY GROUNDED..

MODS REMOVE IF YOU THINK ITS NEEDED ..THANK YOU ...CG...

Goods10 Peoples Dinar: CG I want to first say I love reading what you and Pose have to say and very much appreciate what you two bring to PD. As for your comments here about Tlar....don't you think it would have been more appropriate to hold off calling him out until after his prediction timeframe comes and goes? It just seems the bashing of him is premature. Jmo for what it's worth.

Stevel Peoples Dinar:  Thank you for sharing.   In the future is it possible for you to not use all CAPS as it is very hard to read. Just a kind request.

 What is confusing is that you are citing one specific Intel source that is has not proven exactly accurate.

 You state that the governor of the CBI (Abdel Basset Turki) has no clue as to what is going on. Now you state the Turki gives the rate to the IMF (International Monetary Fund) that he feels the country can sustain. No this is not true, this has already been established over a year ago.

 I am sorry for the reply but your reply has absolutely no facts that are accurate. If you care to expand on your information, we would be happy to comply and get your theory back on track. All of the information that Ray and I have shared are 100% factual.

 Your comments go on and on with no merit and rambling to the point of confusion. Are you ok?   Thanks for the comments.  Blessings,  Steve

Stevel Peoples Dinar:  This post from CG is not the typical post with facts but rather rambling on and on about no facts. She has always been factual without all of the long no meaning sentences.

Sorry but the true fact is that once the new PM is announced, it will go very fast.  Blessings to all.  Steve

Stevel Peoples Dinar:  I am going to do a post with facts tomorrow regarding the known and unknown that is not being told.    Blessings,  Steve

4HisGlory:  It appears to me that Tlar is a researcher in addition to having some form of intel being provided to him and he is being open and transparent in what he is hearing from his informant.

He is being very bold in what he is sharing with the Dinar members and we are all adults and can speculate on what is being shared from him. I appreciate his willingness to divulge what he is hearing.

 CountryGal is a valued researcher of numerous news articles and shares her synopsis with us after conferring with Pose.

I appreciate the in depth breakdown of the political occurrence's that are obviously intertwined with other nations and their governments and how in their opinion, it impacts Iraq. I am grateful to the different views she presents and opens my eyes to the broadness of all of this.

 SteveI also researches articles and has some extremely valuable intel thru different contacts in Iraq as well as business dealings in Iraq.

This is the individual I respect and trust the most because of all the the time and energy that I have spent on this site. I also sense the attitude of heart that Steve obtains and I BELIEVE him and his intentions to be true and pure! 

 We all have to understand that this is a speculative investment. We have put faith and hope in both types of information provided to us, so we can ponder upon and form our own opinion from!

I for one, am grateful to any tidbit of information provided to me whether it be a shared opinion or actual intel shared, and in some cases the intel maybe privy to a degree of the depth that can be disclosed.

 Please Family, be careful of taking sides or attacking some ones character, just because you are not in total agreement with how they present their information.

We are all in this together, let us stay humble and respectful to ALL the different people that share their feelings or views of what is happening on this journey!

Chaos and stress can create all types of conflict between the people that are closest to us! Thank you Steve for this site and your patience with us, we are all a work in progress!!

Barney Fife Peoples Dinar: So Turki said by mid year? Political Stability with no clear definition does that mean Iraq's or Syria's and Irans too?

What about all the provincial governments aren't they those supposed to be finished? And every time I turn around mores been added to the list. It goes on and on with more foreign policy ramblings that has landed us all to July1.

I'm a simple man, Until I can specifically here from Lord Turki himself telling why he's changed his mind again I go with his last statement which to date he's not recanted.

 If and when by the first couple of days go by and no change then I would expect some reason for the change from Turki. TLAR didn't ask us to put this here it's his business and his opinion.

 I for one hope he's right. If he's not he said he would go away so for the time being Go TLAR Go!!! Go Steve Go!!!!  I'm tired of Mid-East history lessons I just want them to go

Songbird Peoples Dinar:  I really appreciate you Steve!  I really appreciate you CG!

 I know there are some who have a long history with Tlar, and trust him. I’m not sure he could be compared to ’the wife in the know’ or ’the Shoe’!!!

From what I gather, Tlar is a researcher like CG and has spent a lot of time reading and gathering information about Iraq from news sources rather than listening to whispering sources.

 We all have been around this mountain many times and seen predictions come and go. This time seems very different from what happened after the election 4 years ago. Time will tell!

I am very optimistic about this time frame. If it happens like Steve and Tlar think, it will be fantastic! If it takes a little longer, or even a lot longer like CG says, it will be fantastic too! :)  I appreciate CG’s attempt at putting on the brakes in order to protect folks from a potential let down.

 You see, to me, the ‘when' is a variable. What is not variable is the reality of this investment!

The RV will happen. In the last year, the news has been terrific verifying the plans from the CBI to RV the currency! All that’s left is the date and rate. To quote Em, “We shall sea!” I am full of anticipation of the good things to come!

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Tlar Currency Chatter:    A friend just sent me this by CG.  The only thing I can say right now is if she was in possession of the news I am in possession of, then would she sit on it or share the excitement with the group? 

All I would like to say in response to her put down is hang in girl. This ride will get very interesting if what is supposed to happen, happens next week.

 Either way I will tell all of you what I do know next Saturday or before whether it comes to pass or not.

 I am betting it comes to pass.   It is all dependent on a new government being in charge with no Maliki.

You can all judge me then.  In the scheme of things in makes no difference.  I really wish I could say more right now but I don't want to do that again. 

The truth is sometimes dumb luck and being at the right place at the right time trumps diligence and smarts CG.  You said it best when you said how could anybody really know.   You have nothing at risk here.  I have everything.  I am flattered that you read my stuff though.  tlar 

Tlar Currency Chatter:  Thanks Scooby, please repost his (Stevel's) response once he posts it today. I'm not big on emotional responses to anything, but everyone has a bad day. Tlar 

(when you said next Saturday did you mean this Saturday or a week from Saturday? I've been reading the M.E. news too long. Thanks!)

Tlar: The Saturday after July 1st or on the 5th..  Scooby, thanks for posting and your opinion.

DreamWeaver Currency Chatter:  Posters at CC are given space to share their thoughts, opinions, and sometimes, heart-felt emotions.  As long as they are honest and not contribed to stir trouble,  IMO it is free speech at its best.

I personally find it fascinating that Tlar has always been a down the line researcher and editorial voice ... the same as CG and Pose.  Then, a few weeks ago, Tlar came into possession of what he believed to be info from a reliable source and he posted not just the info but the story of how it came to him.

 Now, today, Tlar has honestly shared the loss of his source for choosing loyalty to us, but has something else he feels is accurate that he wants to share with us.
Though I see CG's point and agree very much with her take on many things--especially the negative impact of predictions--I do not believe Tlar is yet guilty of grandstanding.

 Randy, yes.  Tlar, no.  To me CG's post applies perfectly to Randy.  He predicts then moves the prediction in illogical ways--without explaining the reason behind these moves--to yet a new screwy prediction.

IMHO Tlar is trying to be responsible in the sense that he explains what he is in possessive of and how it came about.  Does this mean I'm going to give 100% credence to Tlar's prediction.  No, of course not, as I always trust my own interpretation of articles and my intuition.

Guess all I'm saying is that CG is right about how all this "secret source" stuff has hurt people.  But I don't think she is right about tossing Tlar in that pile.   Yet.  :) LOL.  Time will tell if Tlar is correct. 

As long as we all hold on to our logic and stay centered, what does it hurt to see if he is correct.

I believe, personally, Tlar's earned the right for some grace here through all that he has done this long time in his research and sharing that research with fellow dinarians. 

I also believe we should give grace to CountryGal for the same reason.  They are both extraordinary dinarians with a penchant for wanting to keep us calm and informed.

So let's all of us just let them express themselves, while we continue to express ourselves ... as there is credence to the thought that no one may ever really know date and rate, though we keep taking swipes at it.  Some believe we need the budget, others that the Fed Council needs to be seated ... and on and on.

That's my 2cents.  Love to CG and Tlar and all of us for trying our best to be positive and loving and honorable in a truly trying experience.  Blessings, DW. 

Recaps Note:  The day is yet young – We will post replies as soon as we get them - Please keep checking throughout the day -  We will make a new post as Tlar, Stevel,  & Countrygal & others voice their thoughts – Thank You

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