Thursday, January 19, 2017

Juris Prudence 38a

GRAND JURIES
38A C.J.S.
There cannot be a grand jury de facto when there is a grand jury de jure.61 It has been held that the de facto officer doctrine applies to an improperly appointed grand juror.62
§ 10.
§ 8. - - Grand Juries for Special Terms
Subject to statutory limitations, if any, a court authorized to hold a special term has power to convene a grand jury for such term. Library References Grand Jury e;.1.
Improper Purpose
A court authorized to hold a special term has power to convene a grand jury for such term 53 under express statutory authority 54 or in the ab7 sence of a statutory limitation.55 However, the court is bound by any statutory limitation on its power to call a grand jury to serve at a special term.56
§ 9.
It is improper to use grand jury proceedings merely to elicit evidence for use in a civil case or to prepare a pending indictment for trial.
Research Note Improper purpose for subpoena is treated infra § 137. Library References Grand Jury e;.1, 24-26.
De Facto Grand Jury or Juror
Authorities differ as to whether there can be a de facto grand jury. Library References Grand Jury e;.1.
There is no such thing as a de facto grand jury in a federal court.57 Likewise, some state courts assert that there is no such thing as a de facto grand jury;58 but other state courts take a view to the contrary.59 It has been held that the acts of a de facto grand jury are valid in the absence of fraud or prejudice.60
53. N.J.-State v. Bolitho, 136 A 164, 103 N.J.Law 246, affirmed 146 A 927, 104 N.J.Law 446-State v. McDevitt, 87 A 123, 84 N.J.Law 11, affirmed 90 A ']j1,7, 85 NJ.Law 731. 54. Ky.-Sowders v. Commonwealth, 248 S.W. 187, 197 Ky. 834. Tex.-Lennon v. State, 26 S.W.2d 227, 114 Tex.Cr. 5OD-Hickox v. State, 253 S.W. 823, 95 Tex.Cr. 173. 55. Cal.-People v. Carabin, 14 C. 438. 56. Tex.-Terrell v. State, 139 S.W.2d 108, 139 Tex.Cr. 130. 57. U.S.-U.S. v. McKay, D.C.Micb., 45 F.Supp. 1007. 58. Tenn.-Roberts v. State, 247 S.W. 101, 147 Tenn. 323. 59. A1aska-State v. Roark, App., 705 P.2d 1274. Cal.-Ex parte Haymond, 27 P. 859, 91 C. 545-1n re Gannon, 11 P. 240, 69 C. 541. N.Y.-People v. Petrea, 92 N.Y. 1']j1,. Wis.-State v. Wescott, 217 N.W. ']j1,3, 194 Wis. 410. 60. Tenn.-State v. McFarland, Cr.App., 638 S.W.2d 416. 61. IlL-People v. Brautigan, 142 N.E. 208, 310 ill. 472. 62. A1aska-State v. Roark, App., 705 P.2d 1274. Tex.-Howard v. Stale, App. 9 Dist., 704 S.W.2d 575. 63. :U.S.-U.S. v. Sells Engineering, Inc., Cal., 103 S.Ct. 3133, 463 U.S. 418, 77 LEd.2d 743. Exclusively criminal Grand jury investigation is not conducted in good faith unless it is used to conduct investigations that are in their inception exclusively criminal.
Use of grand jury proceedings merely to elicit evidence for use in a civil case is improper per se.63 Government attorneys may not use a grand jury proceeding to gain advantages in a civil case which they are not entitled to. 64 It is improper to use a grand jury for the primary purpose of strengthening the government's case on a pending indictment or as a substitute for discovery.65 The government may not utilize a grand jury for the sole or primary purpose of gathering evidence for use in a pending trial,66 or of preparing a pending indictment for trial,67 or of securing addjtional, postindictment evidence to be used at trial. 68 However, there appears to be some authority to the contrary.69 Where no further in-
U.S.-Matter of Grand Jury Proceedings, Miller Brewing Co., CAWis., 687 F.2d 1079, on rehearing 717 F.2d 1136.
64. D.C.-Synanon Church v. U.S., D.C., 579 F.Supp. 967, affirmed
820 F.2d 421, 261 U.S.App.D.C. 13. 65. U.S.-U.S. v. Gibbons, CAOkl., 607 F.2d 1320.
66. U.S.-U.S. v. Phillips, D.C.ill., 577 F.Supp. 879.
67. U.S.-In re Grand Jury Proceedings, CAl(Puerto Rico), 814 F.2d 61-U.S. v. Woods, C.AMich., 544 F.2d 242, certiorari denied Hurt v. U.S., 97 S.Ct. 787, 429 U.S. 1062, 50 L.Ed.2d 778, Blair v. U.S., 97 S.Ct. 1652, two cases, 430 U.S. 969, 52 LEd.2d 361, certiorari denied 97 S.Ct. 1652, 430 U.S. 969, 52 LEd.2d 361, Jackson v. U.S., 97 S.Ct. 2675, 431 U.S. 954, 53 L.Ed.2d 270 and Kilpatrick v. U.S., 97 S.Ct. 2675, 431 U.S. 954, 53 L.Ed.2d 270, rehearing denied 97 S.Ct. 2689, 431 U.S. 960, 53 LEd:2d 279. U.S. v. Raphael, S.D.N.Y., 786 F.Supp. 355, affirmed U.S. v. Alegria, 980 F.2d 830. 68. U.S.-U.S. v. Doss, CATenn., 545 F.2d 548, rehearing 563 F.2d 265. In re Grand Jury Matter No. 86--525-5, E.D.Pa., 689 F.Supp. 454. N.Y.-People v. Heller, 472 N.Y.S.2d 824, 122 Misc.2d 991. 69. Pa.-Commonwealth v. Lang, 537 A2d 1361, 517 Pa 390.
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4 comments:

Anonymous said...

You cannot have a real (de facto) when there is a fake/legal/law/BAR commissioned (de jure)
It has been held that the real (de facto) officer doctrine "applies" to an improperly appointed grand juror.
[ Yes, if they didn't do an oath right, or any other slight of hand, they still have to be 'real' ]

De Facto (Real) Grand Juror

Authorities differ as to whether there can be a de facto (real) grand jury.
There is no such thing as a (real) de facto grand jury in a federal court
[ cause their stuff is all law/legal/fiction/BAR )
Likewise, some state courts assert that there is no such thing as a (real) de facto grand jury
[ cause their stuff is all legal jargon, personage, barratry, fiction, law, BAR ]

de facto from etymonline.com
Latin, literally "in fact, in reality," thus, "existing, but not necessarily legally ordained;" from facto, ablative of factum "deed, act" (see fact).

The people are the law, the people's decision of how to live their lives is not legally ordained.

For all these Grand Juries in place, doing things the legal way trying to get legal approval for how they have been legally assembled, they are furthest from self governance where they do not need the approval of a pope or BAR attorney to give them legitimacy in their federal court and state court world, where state and federal courts do not hear fact or law.
Only the US Supreme Court hears fact or law.
Find the legal maxim that neither fact nor law is heard in their courts.

I know I speak opposite of what people agree on.
As long as people reject the obvious, they will always be receiving what they worked hard to receive, even as they claim to desire something different.

If I show you how to make the 'cake', you will not have what I showed you when you make pancakes and claim you made the 'cake'.
A thing that is similar is never exactly the same. <-- also a legal maxim

I am not bursting any bubbles, only providing de facto which of course contains the word fact.

de jure contains the word jure as in law that handles injury, play on words.

Also from etymonline.

de jure
Latin, literally "of law," thus "legitimate, lawful, by right of law, required by law." Jure is ablative of ius "law" (see just (adj.)).

Who gave you the 'law' that is thrust upon you.

Law is not govern...not the same.
The right to govern your self does not mean you have to obey someone else's law.

Someone may make a law to wash clothes on Sunday or only water the lawn after 7pm.

Governing one self is knowing what works for you while not interfering with another, meaning you wash clothes when it suits you and you water your lawn when you are available to do it for the care of your property.

The de jure grand jurors will hear nothing different, so I'm not telling you anything different.

but your Grand jury is no different than the ones already set up by law to talk to prosecutors who are BAR attorneys practicing law with a license.

Anonymous said...

Trafficant made several efforts to inform the people of this nation of the defacto position of the rogue 'government.' His speeches are in the Congressional Records to be researched. He was imprisoned on FALSE CHARGES by the 'government' - so what's new about that. This nation has imprisoned more political prisoners than all the other nations combined. We are NOT 'free' and we have no 'rights' and there doesn't appear to be much hopium for us to gain it any time soon.

Anonymous said...

A SIMPLE KEY STROKE CAN FIX THE FONT COLOR SO WE CAN READ IT...

Anonymous said...

Let's also remember that the State is a bankrupt entity in receivership and the prosecuting D.A. has not been properly assigned by the bankruptcy court as a trustee that can bring charges for or against the bankrupt corporate State, besides being an unregistered foreign agent that cannot hold public office. The entire Court system is based in fraud. If Trump can't or won't abolish it then our only recourse is good old fashion shotgun justice. Let's hope it does not come to that, but you never know.